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Old 10-16-13 | 11:47 AM
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12 Years a Slave (McQueen, 2013) — The Reviews Thread

Please continue pre-release discussion here.

Movie:
"12 Years a Slave" (Starring: Chiwetel Ejiofor, Michael Fassbender, Brad Pitt, Benedict Cumberbatch)

Release Date:
10/18/2013

Rating:
R (for violence/cruelty, some nudity and brief sexuality throughout.)

Running Time:
133min. (2h. 13m.)

Budget:
$xx million (estimated)

IMDb Synopsis:
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Based on an incredible true story of one man's fight for survival and freedom. In the pre-Civil War United States, Solomon Northup (Chiwetel Ejiofor), a free black man from upstate New York, is abducted and sold into slavery. Facing cruelty (personified by a malevolent slave owner, portrayed by Michael Fassbender), as well as unexpected kindnesses, Solomon struggles not only to stay alive, but to retain his dignity. In the twelfth year of his unforgettable odyssey, Solomon's chance meeting with a Canadian abolitionist (Brad Pitt) will forever alter his life.


IMDb Info and Rating:
7.7 (1,162 votes as of 10/16/13)

Rotten Tomatoes:
Fresh:46 Rotten:02 (96% as of 10/16/13)

Metacritic:
91 metascore ('Universal acclaim reviews' as of 10/16/13)

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Re: 12 Years a Slave (McQueen, 2013) — The Reviews Thread

guys, please keep that discussion out of this thread. pm a mod to get more answers, if any. i simply put it up in the attention banner so the others would watch themselves in these threads from now on. may work, may not...
Old 10-16-13 | 12:26 PM
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Re: 12 Years a Slave (McQueen, 2013) — The Reviews Thread

This movie has been getting high praise but I don't see many people posting about it.

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Re: 12 Years a Slave (McQueen, 2013) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by TomOpus
This movie has been getting high praise but I don't see many people posting about it.
well, this is here if they do. if not, no biggie...
Old 10-16-13 | 12:59 PM
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Re: 12 Years a Slave (McQueen, 2013) — The Reviews Thread

People here love the lead, he is so under appreciated but well loved, and Fassbedender. So it'll get a proper amount of attention here. Not Avengers attention but some good attention.
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Re: 12 Years a Slave (McQueen, 2013) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by TomOpus
This movie has been getting high praise but I don't see many people posting about it.
This forum creams itself over both McQueen and Fassbender. I'm sure there will be some interest.
Old 10-16-13 | 01:41 PM
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Re: 12 Years a Slave (McQueen, 2013) — The Reviews Thread

Doesn't seem to have a wide release yet? Not seeing it playing by me. Looking forward to it when it is. Reviews have been stellar.
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Re: 12 Years a Slave (McQueen, 2013) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
This forum creams itself over both McQueen and Fassbender. I'm sure there will be some interest.
Oh yeah, there will be some interest due to the people involved. From what I've read it's a great film but tough to watch. But one never knows ... it could very well catch on and get a wider release. I'm not sure I have seen a trailer now that I think about it.
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Steve McQueen hasn't done a good movie since Bullitt.
I have low expectations for this.
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Re: 12 Years a Slave (McQueen, 2013) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by dan30oly
Steve McQueen hasn't done a good movie since Bullitt.
I have low expectations for this.
But you haven't voted zero stars yet.
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Re: 12 Years a Slave (McQueen, 2013) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by TomOpus
But you haven't voted zero stars yet.
Exactly.

Voting zero stars for films you haven't seen? Thankfully most people here ignore this #####le.
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Originally Posted by TomOpus
This movie has been getting high praise but I don't see many people posting about it.
Probably because it's not out yet for people to see it. Also this is not a blockbuster so it will be a slow gradual type of movie.
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Re: 12 Years a Slave (McQueen, 2013) — The Reviews Thread

opens in a few markets this weekend (DC included), then a few more on the 25th (baltimore for me) & then i think the week after they'll put it in like 400 theaters & see where it goes from there
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I haven't seen this yet, but likely will at some point. But, it's is always a rare and monumental ocassion that I find myself agreeing with Armond White (America's #1 Well-Intentioned/Misunderstood/Failed Troll), but his review of the film touches on a lot of the issues I have with "message pictures" of modern Hollywood and while, his reputation generally and in part, justifiably, causes people to immediately discount his criticism, this piece is well written and well thought out.

http://www.nyfcc.com/2013/10/3450/
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Sounds like pretentious Armond White to me. Loves to throw out big words to make it sound more intellectual.
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I have not yet seen 12 Years a Slave so I can't argue with Armond White about that one. He also hated Hunger & Shame which IMO are 2 of the best films of the last 5 years. If 12 YAS is as good as McQeen's first 2 theN Mr. White's opinion don't mean shit to me.

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I think it should be against forum rules for anyone to link to an Armond White review
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Originally Posted by BambooLounge
I haven't seen this yet, but likely will at some point. But, it's is always a rare and monumental ocassion that I find myself agreeing with Armond White (America's #1 Well-Intentioned/Misunderstood/Failed Troll), but his review of the film touches on a lot of the issues I have with "message pictures" of modern Hollywood and while, his reputation generally and in part, justifiably, causes people to immediately discount his criticism, this piece is well written and well thought out.

http://www.nyfcc.com/2013/10/3450/
Rats! Someone beat me to it.
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Originally Posted by Jaymole
I think it should be against forum rules for anyone to link to an Armond White review
I just linked to one in the GRAVITY thread.
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Re: 12 Years a Slave (McQueen, 2013) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
I just linked to one in the GRAVITY thread.
You are dead to me.










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Re: 12 Years a Slave (McQueen, 2013) — The Reviews Thread

Any wider release dates planned as of yet?
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Originally Posted by Jaymole
I think it should be against forum rules for anyone to link to an Armond White review
That would be a shame.

He is film criticism's last hope, as sad as that is.

He is trying so hard to incite people into caring about films and discussing them intelligently. I am convinced he does not believe 90% of what he writes, but is knowingly trolling to try to get people to debate him. The man knows a lot about film history and cinema generally, but he is willfully using his knowledge to seem ignorant enough to get people to engage him. Only, in a rotten tomatoes world, people will only engage him on the "new terms" for discussing films, which is fanboy rage or with meaningless aggregated "scores."

But, every now and then he actually sprinkles something valid into his trolling and in this case, his opinions on the larger genre of Hollywood message pictures being put out these days and garnering popularity and praise are ones I can get behind. I find crap like The Help and Blind Side downright offensive, not as an African American (I'm white), but solely as a film fan. They're reductive.

Now, I enjoyed Shame, was not interested in Hunger and will see 12 Years a Slave and give it a fair shot. But, White's criticism here is far more grounded than his usual ramblings.
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Originally Posted by BambooLounge
That would be a shame.

He is film criticism's last hope, as sad as that is.

He is trying so hard to incite people into caring about films and discussing them intelligently. I am convinced he does not believe 90% of what he writes, but is knowingly trolling to try to get people to debate him. The man knows a lot about film history and cinema generally, but he is willfully using his knowledge to seem ignorant enough to get people to engage him. Only, in a rotten tomatoes world, people will only engage him on the "new terms" for discussing films, which is fanboy rage or with meaningless aggregated "scores."

But, every now and then he actually sprinkles something valid into his trolling and in this case, his opinions on the larger genre of Hollywood message pictures being put out these days and garnering popularity and praise are ones I can get behind. I find crap like The Help and Blind Side downright offensive, not as an African American (I'm white), but solely as a film fan. They're reductive.

Now, I enjoyed Shame, was not interested in Hunger and will see 12 Years a Slave and give it a fair shot. But, White's criticism here is far more grounded than his usual ramblings.
Even though I disagree with White, what you have said is true. The guy does know his shit.
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Originally Posted by inri222
Even though I disagree with White, what you have said is true. The guy does know his shit.
Maybe that is why his reviews are such turds.
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Originally Posted by BambooLounge
That would be a shame.

He is film criticism's last hope, as sad as that is.

He is trying so hard to incite people into caring about films and discussing them intelligently. I am convinced he does not believe 90% of what he writes, but is knowingly trolling to try to get people to debate him. The man knows a lot about film history and cinema generally, but he is willfully using his knowledge to seem ignorant enough to get people to engage him. Only, in a rotten tomatoes world, people will only engage him on the "new terms" for discussing films, which is fanboy rage or with meaningless aggregated "scores."

But, every now and then he actually sprinkles something valid into his trolling and in this case, his opinions on the larger genre of Hollywood message pictures being put out these days and garnering popularity and praise are ones I can get behind. I find crap like The Help and Blind Side downright offensive, not as an African American (I'm white), but solely as a film fan. They're reductive.

Now, I enjoyed Shame, was not interested in Hunger and will see 12 Years a Slave and give it a fair shot. But, White's criticism here is far more grounded than his usual ramblings.
If that is the case, he shouldn't be "panhandling" for debates so to say. You make it sounds like he's an intelligent man desperate to have his voice said and is willing to sacrifice his true opinions to get attention. Not much honor in that I would think.


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