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Old 10-15-13 | 08:49 AM
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KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

I understand that dogs and cats see things in black and white. Are humans the only Earth creature capable of seeing in color, and if so, what allure did King Kong have towards Ann Darrow/Dwan just because she was white and blonde haired?

If King Kong saw only in black and white, Ann Darrow/Dwan wouldn't have been any more "attractive/interesting" to him than any of his previous native "brides."

Now, if apes do see in color, then this is just another example of Buttmunker being a "monkey's uncle."
Old 10-15-13 | 08:51 AM
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Are you saying you can't tell the difference between Ann Darrow and the native women if you watch the film in black and white?
Old 10-15-13 | 08:53 AM
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

One thing I noticed, in Kong '76, was that the previous native brides wore fake "yellow hair" on their heads. Apparently, somehow, jungle savages "knew" that Kong favored blondes.
Old 10-15-13 | 09:25 AM
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Being an animal it probably had more to do with scent than sight.
Old 10-15-13 | 09:28 AM
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Originally Posted by Buttmunker
Now, if apes do see in color, then this is just another example of Buttmunker being a "monkey's uncle."
Old World primates, including monkeys and all apes, have vision similar to humans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_vision
Originally Posted by Buttmunker
One thing I noticed, in Kong '76, was that the previous native brides wore fake "yellow hair" on their heads. Apparently, somehow, jungle savages "knew" that Kong favored blondes.
Results showed that the apes, both when analyzed as two separate groups, and when assessed collectively, showed significant color preferences, paying significantly less attention to the red-, than to the blue- or green-colored stimuli. The animals' interest in the blue- and green-colored stimuli did not differ significantly. Overall, the findings suggest that gorillas and chimpanzees, our closest living relatives, may harbor color preferences comparable to those of humans and other species.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18489237

Redheads need not apply.
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Gorillas are trichromatic. So they see in color. Though other apes may not. Interesting question to bring up.
Old 10-15-13 | 09:36 AM
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Which King Kong are you talking about?

Claymation apes see only black and white.

Men in monkey suits see in color.

CGI apes are blind.
Old 10-15-13 | 10:28 AM
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Shouldn't this be in Otter since the question pertains more towards apes and how they see color?
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Originally Posted by MScottM
Being an animal it probably had more to do with scent than sight.
I think he liked Ann's perfume.
Old 10-15-13 | 10:32 AM
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Considering Merian C. Cooper conceived the idea of Kong going ape over Ann Darrow in the early 1930s, I wonder if they knew back then about how animals view the world. Of course, I don't think he gave an ape's giant shit if he knew it or not - his story is fiction, so what difference did it make for the movie whether Kong could see Ann's skin and hair color?
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Because Naomi Watts is hot?
Old 10-15-13 | 10:58 AM
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Originally Posted by Buttmunker
Are humans the only Earth creature capable of seeing in color
You clearly haven't seen that mantis shrimp meme from The Oatmeal.
Old 10-15-13 | 11:14 AM
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

So maybe Kong saw that Otter thread a while back that said certain race's women aren't that attractive. Kong is a damn racist & into beastiality.
Old 10-15-13 | 11:40 AM
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Originally Posted by resinrats
Kong is a damn racist & into beastiality.
Come off your high horse, sir. Nobody is perfect.
Old 10-15-13 | 12:45 PM
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Originally Posted by Solid Snake
Interesting question to bring up.
No, it's not.
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

When Kong grabbed that random woman out of her apartment, did he look at her or did he sniff her?
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

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When Kong grabbed that random woman out of her apartment, did he look at her or did he sniff her?
Kong made the mistake of sniffing her, and she hadn't changed her maxi-pad yet. She reminded him of the unsanitary "brides" of yore, so he tossed her.
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

"King Kong" is an allegory. White Man's Warning to Black Men about the Dangers of sleeping with White Women.

I thought ya'll knew this?
Old 10-15-13 | 01:38 PM
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

'Twas beauty, killed the beast... and our superior honkey firepower..
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Originally Posted by Giantrobo
"King Kong" is an allegory. White Man's Warning to Black Men about the Dangers of sleeping with White Women.

I thought ya'll knew this?
Especially if they don't require them to wear condoms.
Old 10-15-13 | 01:51 PM
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Originally Posted by Giantrobo
"King Kong" is an allegory. White Man's Warning to Black Men about the Dangers of sleeping with White Women.

I thought ya'll knew this?
That's one school, but I'm of the other, more obvious school of thought is Kong being an allegory of black slave taken from his homeland and brought to America against his will by white men.
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

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Especially if they don't require them to wear condoms.
Kong never had anything to put a condom on.
Old 10-15-13 | 02:08 PM
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Originally Posted by Buttmunker
I understand that dogs and cats see things in black and white.
Where did you come to understand this?

A person or animal that is "color blind" doesn't see the world in black and white. It usually means they don't have the necessary cells in their eyes to see red and orange.

To most people the rainbow is Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Violet. To a color-blind person, their rainbow starts at the yellowish-green. Dogs and cats are color-blind in the same way. They can't see red, orange and organish-yellow.

Some animals have cells that allow them to see colors that humans can't see.

if you have 5-10 mintues, this comic explains things pretty well.: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/mantis_shrimp
Old 10-15-13 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RoyalTea
Where did you come to understand this?
I was told this as an 8-year old, and I never questioned it.
Old 10-15-13 | 02:40 PM
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Re: KING KONG question - regarding whether apes see in "color?"

Originally Posted by Buttmunker
That's one school, but I'm of the other, more obvious school of thought is Kong being an allegory of black slave taken from his homeland and brought to America against his will by white men.
My favorite was Danny Perry's take that Kong was a manefestation of Carl Denham's frustration at being impotent. He suggests when Denham tells Ann she doesn't have to worry about him he means because he can't physically have sex, and the King Kong puppet has no penis, so obviously it is Carl's id, stroked into a wild rage by Carl's sexual frustration over hot Ann.


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