The Valeyard

I think if Wonder Woman tanks, we'll see a shift with the rest of the solo features (i.e. "Flash" becomes "Batman v. Flash," etc).

slop101

Man, DC is so jealous of Marvel's cinematic universe, that it's totally flailing around, yelling "me too, me too!", while totally oblivious as to what made Marvel's movies succeed. It's just kinda' sad, and these characters deserve better.

Shazam

Hopefully the girl that plays WW will have grown tits by then.

GoldenJCJ

It would be comical if it weren't so pathetic. They want so much to be exactly like Marvel but they've fucked up at pretty much every turn. I can see this whole plan collapsing half way through. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if we get Justice League part 1 and then part 2 got scrapped.

Mike86

What makes it worse in my opinion is that they had a starting point and could have gotten things going slowly but instead got too set on trying to jump right into introducing a bunch of characters at a time and basically trying to jump right in to a Justice League film. I just don't really understand their thinking behind trying so hard to make this happen I guess. I get that they saw the success of The Avengers and that probably got the gears in their heads turning, but they went about it in the total opposite direction and I just don't think its going to pay off for them.

Man of Steel was essentially the start of their Cinematic Universe and they should have slowly built things from that film. Instead they're so gung ho trying to play catch up that things just appear to be a mess and it seems like they really don't have any solid plans and are just throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks. I think that films starring Superman and Batman will likely do well but it just seems like they're banking so much on only those two characters and they don't really care about the others so it makes you wonder why they're really so stuck on trying to make the Justice League and a larger Cinematic Universe happen.

taffer

To be fair, Marvel and DC always copy each other. There's nothing new with that at all. It's been like that forever. One of them does something successful, and the other copies it soon after.

I don't think there is anything necessarily wrong with not introducing all the characters in solo movies before the Justice League movie. X-Men has been widely popular, and none of them have ever had solo movies except for Wolverine.

Mike86

In this case though DC would have been better off going closer to Marvel's formula. Instead they're just jumping straight in without any real build. I don't really see the point in trying to work backwards from a Justice League film but whatever.

Its also worth noting though that the X-Men films have more or less been Wolverine focused though. They're not really true team films (especially the first three films). I'm guessing that's essentially what DC plans to do with the Justice League and will have Superman and Batman as the focal members of the group. My point is though, if that is the case why even bother? They seemingly don't have much interest in the other characters unless the other films work out.

taffer

Of course Superman and Batman will be the focal point. Just look at the comics. DC publishes over a dozen comics monthly in the Batfamily alone.

Mike86

Right. I'm saying though if that is the case then really why even bother with the side characters? They seemingly have little interest in them unless the Justice League and Superman V. Batman film does well. The films they have scheduled all just seem like afterthoughts. The difference with Marvel is that they're actually building up characters to take over for their core characters so they'll have more to work with when eventually the actors step down and they won't have to go straight to rebooting characters.

mrhan

Marvel Comics was doing the same thing when Wolverine gained popularity. He was guest starring in this title or that and had a slew of stand alone mini series and team ups. He was Marvel for a long time and all that got translated when they started the X-Men movies because you don't want to fuck up a good thing. If Marvel had the rights to Wolverine you all know that he would have been in their movies even without the X-Men.

taffer

Themyscira being built in New Mexico?

Solid Snake

Ugh. I feel worse for watching that video. I hate newscasters and their fake dialogue.

GoldenJCJ

Where is the IHOP going to be?

E Unit

So is it going to be the same stupid fight when Supes and Zod were fighting? Now Batman and Supes doing the same thing? Joy. I cannot wait.

mrhan

Shouldn't it look more like this than that. You can already tell it doesn't.

Solid Snake

Ehhhh. I dunno about that. Yeah, the fight using the armored suit in the animated Dark Knights Returns went more than the comic but I don't think it'll be a retread of the Zod fight in this one. the DKR fight was awesome though.

Solid BD for the whole thing as one. Glad I waited it out.

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james2025a

DC seems to be taking Marvels plan and reversing it. Instead og building towards a team movie, they are getting the team right out as soon as they can and then spinning individual movies from that. Maybe this could work, but i think that using an example such as Hawkeye from the Avengers, he works well as part of the team, however i don't think there are too many people screaming for a solo movie for the character. Don't get me wrong, they could do a kick ass movie based upon the style of the comic character being a bad ass in recent years, but people seem to be happy with the character popping up in the movies of more popular characters. Same thing goes for Black Widow.

This is where i think Wonder Woman, Cyborg and maybe even Aquaman might have a problem. Unless they can really stand out and kick ass on screen then the demand to see more in solo features may not be there. Its a risky move. And i think the bad taste from the last Green Lantern movie is still evident. If they are doing another solo movie then smart to put it in the farer future. But the problem is where do you go with the character? Another origin story? No thanks. Glad that Marvel are getting out of the origin business. It works well for only so long unless its handled REALLY well (Batman is an example of good reinventions...Superman....to some extent), and the reason why Spiderman is failing and why the Fantastic Four will have a hard time.

james2025a

If DC are going to try and use Marvels mold to some extent then a good idea is to also imitate their idea of trying to keep costs low in production. Marvel gets a lot of shit for this, but i can see that they want to ensure that a production does not become a runaway train of expense.

Giantrobo

Gotta be honest...at this point I'd be ok with NOT seeing any SOLO films from Marvel or DC for a while. The Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy have shown that TEAM FILMS CAN WORK. I say that even though I really enjoyed the Captain America films.

I don't want to see Iron Man 4, but I can't wait to see Iron Man in the next Captain America and Avengers movies. I don't need another Batman solo film, but I can't wait to see him FINALLY teamed up, or against, Superman. Hell, at this point I'm not even sure I really care about a Wonder Woman solo film. I just want to see her kick ass with, or against, Superman and Batman or any other hero. Spider-Man can team up with some heroes and I would like that too. Don't need another Spidey solo film.

PhantomStranger

I largely agree, team-up movies eliminate a lot of the stuff that slows down solo movies. Except for a solo Flash movie, I could handle all of the comic book movies shifting toward team-ups. There is a reason why the Justice League and Avengers were so popular for many years.

taffer

MASSIVE POTENTIAL SPOILERS

fumanstan

Not a fan of that choice, if true.

gryffinmaster

Solid Snake

I always think she's younger than she is but then somehow I'll watch a movie from a while back and boom... she's in it. If true... that gets my interest a good bit. She's always entertaining. I actually can't think of a moment I didn't like her even in movies I didn't like.

taffer

Something I would really like to see in a Batman movie is the old school Batcave with the giant penny and T-Rex.