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Old 07-18-13, 01:31 PM
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The Weekend of Too Many Flops? Box Office Thread 7/17 - 7/21

Turbo opened yesterday to $5.8m, edging out Despicable Me 2 by roughly $0.2m. A lot of discussion going on over how poorly Red 2, RIPD, and Turbo have all been tracking. I'm curious to see how it plays out.

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This non-sequel original story opened #1 with $5.8M into 3,552 theaters and received a coveted ‘A’ CinemaScore which should help word of mouth by Friday. The 3D toon was followed close behind by Universal/Illumination’s three-week-old 3D toon Despicable Me 2 ($5.6M last night but on its way to $500M worldwide today), #3 Sony/Happy Madison’s Grown-Ups ($4.3 for a $55.8M North American cume) and #4 Warner Bros/Legendary’s Pacific Rim ($3.5M and passing $100M worldwide). Sorry to repeat myself, but tracking has been unreliable this summer just as it’s been for some time now.
R.I.P.D. ($130m Budget), Red 2 (More than $58m but no idea what), Turbo ($135m) and The Conjuring ($12m) go wide this weekend. Girl Most Likely and Only God Forgives go limited. The Major Theater Chain Tracking has estimates at:

Turbo: $25 million
The Conjuring: $25 million
Red 2: $22 million
R.I.P.D.: $20.5 million

To get everyone up to speed. The current standings of recently released movies:

Despicable Me 2 - $240.9m Domestic, $507m Worldwide ($76m Budget)
Grown Ups 2 - $51.5m Domestic, $53.2m Worldwide ($80m Budget)
Pacific Rim - $49.2m Domestic, $102m Worldwide ($190m Budget)
The Heat - $116m Domestic, $132m Worldwide ($43m Budget)
Monsters University - $241m Domestic, $477.6m Worldwide (est. $200m Budget)
The Lone Ranger - $74.5m Domestic, $122.5m Worldwide ($215m Budget)
World War Z - $179.6m Domestic, $425m Worldwide ($190m Budget)
White House Down - $64.7m Domestic, $84.4m Worldwide ($150m Budget)
Man of Steel - $282.2m Domestic, $620m Worldwide ($225m Budget)
This is the End - $92.5m Domestic, $98.7m Worldwide ($32m Budget)
Now You See Me - $113.7m Domestic, $186m Worldwide ($75m Budget)
Star Trek Into Darkness - $224.6m Domestic, $447m Worldwide ($190m Budget)
Fast & Furious 6 - $236.7m Domestic, $704m Worldwide ($160m Budget)
Epic - $105m Domestic, $240m Worldwide ($100m Budget)
After Earth - $59m domestic, $214.8m Worldwide ($130m Budget)
Iron Man 3 - $406.9 domestic, $1.211b Worldwide ($200m Budget)

So who had "Fast & Furious 6" as the overall winner (not called Iron Man 3) of the summer 2013? (Man of Steel could still pass it, but it isn't a lock.)

Despicable Me 2 is doing ridiculously well.

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Re: The Weekend of Too Many Flops? Box Office Thread 7/17 - 7/21

Conjuring is going to be pretty huge considering the budget. It'll make it back at least two-fold by Monday.
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I agree, I won't be overly surprised if low budget Conjuring takes the weekend. It should do well.
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This makes me chuckle every time...

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Re: The Weekend of Too Many Flops? Box Office Thread 7/17 - 7/21

Originally Posted by RichC2
Turbo opened yesterday to $5.8m, edging out Despicable Me 2 by roughly $0.2m. A lot of discussion going on over how poorly Red 2, RIPD, and Turbo have all been tracking. I'm curious to see how it plays out.



R.I.P.D., Red 2, Turbo and The Conjuring go wide this weekend. Girl Most Likely and Only God Forgives go limited. The Major Theater Chain Tracking has estimates at:

Turbo: $25 million
The Conjuring: $25 million
Red 2: $22 million
R.I.P.D.: $20.5 million

To get everyone up to speed. The current standings of recently released movies:

Despicable Me 2 - $240.9m Domestic, $507m Worldwide ($76m Budget)
Grown Ups 2 - $51.5m Domestic, $53.2m Worldwide ($80m Budget)
Pacific Rim - $49.2m Domestic, $102m Worldwide ($190m Budget)
The Heat - $116m Domestic, $132m Worldwide ($43m Budget)
Monsters University - $241m Domestic, $477.6m Worldwide (est. $200m Budget)
The Lone Ranger - $74.5m Domestic, $122.5m Worldwide ($215m Budget)
World War Z - $179.6m Domestic, $425m Worldwide ($190m Budget)
White House Down - $64.7m Domestic, $84.4m Worldwide ($150m Budget)
Man of Steel - $282.2m Domestic, $620m Worldwide ($225m Budget)
This is the End - $92.5m Domestic, $98.7m Worldwide ($32m Budget)
Now You See Me - $113.7m Domestic, $186m Worldwide ($75m Budget)
Star Trek Into Darkness - $224.6m Domestic, $447m Worldwide ($190m Budget)
Fast & Furious 6 - $236.7m Domestic, $704m Worldwide ($160m Budget)
Epic - $105m Domestic, $240m Worldwide ($100m Budget)

So who had "Fast & Furious 6" as the overall winner of the summer 2013? (Man of Steel could still pass it, but it isn't a lock.)

Despicable Me 2 is doing ridiculously well.
How did WHITE HOUSE DOWN end up with a $150 million budget? Esp. with those stars. Who in their right mind thought that was a sure bet? Esp. since a competing film with the same subject matter beat it into theaters.
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Emmerich has pull. Like the guy or not, his "original" ideas sell - The Day After Tomorrow ($125m budget) grossed $600m worldwide, 2012 ($200m budget) grossed nearly $780m worldwide, ID4 ($75m budget) grossed over $800m worldwide.

Even 10,000 BC ($105m budget), as epically awful as it was, made nearly $270m worldwide. His only realy "flop" has been Anonymous (2011), which only had a $30m budget. And outside of ID4, he usually doesn't have big name stars headlining his movies (Will Smith wasn't an established star so much but his star power was rising, quickly, back then.)

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Originally Posted by RichC2
Emmerich has pull. Like the guy or not, his "original" ideas sell - The Day After Tomorrow ($125m budget) grossed $600m worldwide, 2012 ($200m budget) grossed nearly $780m worldwide, ID4 ($75m budget) grossed over $800m worldwide.

Even 10,000 BC ($105m budget), as epically awful as it was, made nearly $270m worldwide. His only realy "flop" has been Anonymous (2011), which only had a $30m budget. And outside of ID4, he usually doesn't have big name stars headlining his movies (Will Smith wasn't an established star so much but his star power was rising, quickly, back then.)
Okay, that makes a little more sense. I'd forgotten (or was unaware?) that Emmerich was connected to WHITE HOUSE DOWN.
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The Conjuring will do at least $40m.
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Re: The Weekend of Too Many Flops? Box Office Thread 7/17 - 7/21

Originally Posted by RichC2
So who had "Fast & Furious 6" as the overall winner of the summer 2013? (Man of Steel could still pass it, but it isn't a lock.)
Overall winner? Are we forgetting Iron Man 3?
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Re: The Weekend of Too Many Flops? Box Office Thread 7/17 - 7/21

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Overall winner? Are we forgetting Iron Man 3?
yeah, why is IM3 not on that list?
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You know, I completely forgot about Iron Man 3. Fuck.
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Both Summit and Universal should be fuckin' smacked for releasing comic book films on the same weekend as Comic Con. Summit should then be slapped a second time for releasing Red 2 in the midst of the summer heat. This is a film that would've done well at the end of the summer or in the fall, you know, like the last one. Universal should be slapped a second time for even green-lighting R.I.P.D..

Poor Robert Schwentke, passed on Red 2 to make a different piece of shit instead.

The Conjuring is going to be number one. You can all go home now.

RichC2, just looking at your BO report just shows how lackluster this summer has been. No wonder more and more theaters are doing discount days/weeks.
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I agree. In my opinion, Red 2 should have been a November release.

I also anticipate The Conjuring cleaning up.
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Only God Forgives could've had a decent showing this weekend if they were actually putting it in enough theaters.
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Only God Forgives could've had a decent showing this weekend if they were actually putting it in enough theaters.
Do you live in some alternate world where badly reviewed Refn films are hits?
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I just saw Despicable Me 2, and have to say it's worth every penny it's making. Great summer movie (right behind ST Into Darkness, as my favorite of 2013 so far).
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The Conjuring at number 1 and we can all celebrate and look forward to Insidious 2.
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
Both Summit and Universal should be fuckin' smacked for releasing comic book films on the same weekend as Comic Con. Summit should then be slapped a second time for releasing Red 2 in the midst of the summer heat. This is a film that would've done well at the end of the summer or in the fall, you know, like the last one. Universal should be slapped a second time for even green-lighting R.I.P.D..

Poor Robert Schwentke, passed on Red 2 to make a different piece of shit instead.

The Conjuring is going to be number one. You can all go home now.

RichC2, just looking at your BO report just shows how lackluster this summer has been. No wonder more and more theaters are doing discount daysJ/weeks.
Two comic book films the week of Comic Con and the week before Wolverine was just commercial suicide.
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Do you live in some alternate world where badly reviewed Refn films are hits?
It would've done at least $10M like Drive if given a wide release rather than a 60 (give-or-take) screen release.
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^ Yep.

And for anyone in OC, I just found out they're showing this in Laguna Niguel at the Regency. I'll be heading over there this weekend.
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Re: The Weekend of Too Many Flops? Box Office Thread 7/17 - 7/21

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo
Do you live in some alternate world where badly reviewed Refn films are hits?
Maybe it's the same alternate world where a superhero movie with barely average reviews is revered as amazing?
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Re: The Weekend of Too Many Flops? Box Office Thread 7/17 - 7/21

It doesn't help that Only God Forgives has terrible reviews.
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R.I.P.D. looks awful. I wonder if it'll be the Summer's "Jonah Hex". I expect The Conjuring to be #1 and Despicable Me 2 should end up #2 on the worldwide list after its run.
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Maybe it's the same alternate world where a superhero movie with barely average reviews is revered as amazing?
No matter how many average reviews it received, Man of Steel is a box office hit.


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