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FRwL 06-02-13 06:53 PM

Predator 2 vs. Predators
 
Let's put an end to this the two sequels of the Predator trilogy, a trilogy more dear to me than Alien AND Terminator and.... Robocop (lol), it all ENDS. Fucking....

P2
Pros:
Upkeeping the Predaverse and expanding it
Cool new Predatoys
The Hooker highrise scene
Similar music
New setting
Bill Paxton/Gary Busey together during their golden age

Cons:
Shit occurs for seemingly no reason
Predator turns into a pussy toward the end
Danny Glover?

Ps
Pros:
Interesting collection of commandos
The Pianist as lead was surprisingly OK as the lead proving you don't have to be a bulky dude to be cool

Cons:
Childish dialogue "you want to see something fucked up?" said by the chick no less.
Jungle retread
Morpheus sucks
No threat feel
Copying P1 too much

I guess whoever made P2 must have not really given a shit about Predator 1 while Robert "I'm going to honor Predator 1" Rodriguez ironically mezzedup.

E Unit 06-02-13 07:11 PM

Re: Predator 2 vs. Predators
 
There are no pros with Predators.

Deftones 06-02-13 07:21 PM

Re: Predator 2 vs. Predators
 
Damn, I thought this was going to be some sort of a sequel announcement. :lol:

TGM 06-02-13 07:22 PM

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Predator 2 is a hot mess. But at least it tried to bring a little something new to the table, unlike Predators which was a damn near shot for shot rehash.

TheBang 06-02-13 07:27 PM

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Really? I enjoyed Predators. Sure, it wasn't as good as 1, but I rewatched Predator 2 recently, and it looks and feels like a made-for-TV movie.

JumpCutz 06-02-13 07:32 PM

Re: Predator 2 vs. Predators
 
Predator 2 by a mile.

Not saying 2 was a good movie per say, but Predators was dreadful.

Troy Stiffler 06-02-13 07:37 PM

Re: Predator 2 vs. Predators
 
I wanted to like Predators. But it lacked the sense of wonder. It just felt like another churned out project that someone had to make because some numbers were crunched and it someone wanted to have it made.

Predator 2 works for me because of it was ultra violent, and the urban warfare was cool to watch. A lot of the violence scared me when I was little. The movie was pretty hardcore.

Predator works because it's one of those classically directed action films. It's a tight little script. Arnie is in there. Everyone does what's right. The science fiction is very real and makes sense. And seeing the predator in action, on screen, when I was little, was a first-time experience.

Predators didn't bring anything new and fascinating. I don't know what the franchise could bring. I think it's dead. And was surprised when they started making it. It's only appeal was to see the Predators on the big screen again.

islandclaws 06-02-13 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JumpCutz (Post 11714989)
Predator 2 by a mile.

Not saying 2 was a good movie per say, but Predators was dreadful.

Yep. Aside from some cool shots, it was a weak effort all around. And Brody is nooooo substitute for Arnie. The shots of him trying so hard to evoke Dutch were laughably bad.

Rodriguez and Nimrod had a great opportunity handed to them and they blew it majorly.

Hokeyboy 06-02-13 08:06 PM

Re: Predator 2 vs. Predators
 
Predators, but they're both shit. Predator 2 is such insipid, cliche-ridden tripe, I'm surprised people actually defend that thing.

Jackskeleton 06-02-13 08:07 PM

Re: Predator 2 vs. Predators
 
El Scorpio is ready

islandclaws 06-02-13 09:33 PM

Re: Predator 2 vs. Predators
 

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy (Post 11715016)
Predators, but they're both shit. Predator 2 is such insipid, cliche-ridden tripe, I'm surprised people actually defend that thing.

The Predator scares an old couple watching Jeopardy! I don't know how you aren't seeing the value here.

Mondo Kane 06-02-13 09:47 PM

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P2.

King Willie-trophy scene. 'nuff said.

dhmac 06-02-13 10:49 PM

Re: Predator 2 vs. Predators
 
The sad part is that the original Predator never had a decent sequel made for it.

Both Alien and Terminator had at least one decent sequel each, so why has making a decent Predator sequel been so difficult to do?

Mike86 06-02-13 10:56 PM

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Neither one was very great but I suppose if I had to choose I'd say Predator 2.

Sonic 06-02-13 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dhmac (Post 11715190)
so why has making a decent Predator sequel been so difficult to do?

no arnold schwareniga = no sale

Troy Stiffler 06-02-13 11:22 PM

Re: Predator 2 vs. Predators
 

Originally Posted by dhmac (Post 11715190)
Both Alien and Terminator had at least one decent sequel each, so why has making a decent Predator sequel been so difficult to do?

Good point. We need James Cameron's "Predator [cool sounding sequel]"

Maxflier 06-02-13 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FRwL (Post 11714958)



Cons:

Jungle retread

Really? What do you expect from a Predator movie? If they had set it in the city again would you have conned it for that?

My Other Self 06-02-13 11:59 PM

Re: Predator 2 vs. Predators
 
Predator 2 for sure. I saw Predators in theaters and liked it at first, but the more I reflected the more I realized it was nothing more than a muddled mess.

The first one still needs a proper BD that isn't DNR'd to shit.

FRwL 06-03-13 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxflier (Post 11715221)
Really? What do you expect from a Predator movie? If they had set it in the city again would you have conned it for that?

So you would only want Predator movies set in Jungles.

DonnachaOne 06-03-13 02:13 AM

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devilshalo 06-03-13 02:23 AM

Re: Predator 2 vs. Predators
 
Both were bad. Predator 2 was Ghostbusters 2 bad. Predators was Friday the 13th: A New Beginning bad.

OldBoy 06-03-13 06:04 AM

Re: Predator 2 vs. Predators
 
i liked Predators. so sue me!

Maxflier 06-03-13 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FRwL (Post 11715265)
So you would only want Predator movies set in Jungles.

Where else do you propose a movie about master hunters to be set?

RocShemp 06-03-13 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxflier (Post 11715411)
Where else do you propose a movie about master hunters to be set?

I always wanted to see a Colonial Era Predator movie. However, they shouldn't have the stealth camo from the first two movies (or at least one that is nowhere near as effective) and a larger, less portable (no shoulder mounting) version of the plasma cannon.

Why So Blu? 06-03-13 09:20 AM

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Like them both.

"Maybe I'll get lucky and fall."


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