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Old 05-14-13, 12:54 PM
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Re: Ridiculous/insulting racial casting in films

Originally Posted by Screwadu
If one can find ridiculous or insulting a white person portraying a character of a different ethnicity or race, then one can find it insulting or ridiculous when someone of a different ethnicity or race portrays a white person, no?
Making the Kingpin black (which had literally no effect on the character whatsoever outside of his physical appearance) isn't really the same thing as, say, doing a white fella up in make-up and prosthetics so he can portray an Asian.
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Originally Posted by Timber
So much hotter as Rita Hayworth.
To each their own. I prefer this :

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Kinda hard for Louis C.K. to get the Latin widow peak back...

Spoiler:
Joanna Kerns was born Joanna Crussie DeVarona and is of mixed Mexican/Irish descent (her father David is Mexican American and her mother Martha is Irish-American).

Alexis Bledel was born in Houston, Texas to a Mexican mother named Nanette Dozier and an Argentinean dad named Martin.

Stacey Dash is of Barbadian, African American, and Mexican descent.

Louis C.K.'s father was born in Mexico, while C.K.'s mother is an American of Irish Catholic ancestry.

Uma Thurman's mother, Nena von Schlebrügge, was born in Mexico City.

Lynda Carter is of Irish American descent on her father's side, but her mother Juana Cordova is of Mexican descent.
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Originally Posted by wishbone
Kinda hard for Louis C.K. to get the Latin widow peak back...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_C.K.

Louis Szekely

C.K.'s paternal grandfather, a Hungarian Jew, emigrated to Mexico, where he met C.K.'s paternal grandmother, who was a Catholic Mexican of Spanish and Mexican Indian ancestry. C.K.'s father was born in Mexico, while C.K.'s mother is an American of Irish Catholic ancestry, originally from a farm in Michigan.
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Re: Ridiculous/insulting racial casting in films

So he's only 1/4 ethnic Mexican. A jewish refugee has a kid with a Mexican and that kid has a kid with an Irish American. He certainly looks more Irish than Mexican.

Same thing with Uma Thurman. I'm going to bet that while Nena von Schlebrügge may have been born in Mexico City she was decidedly more European than Mexican. Oy, what a name!
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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
Gotta love white folk instructing non-whites about when it's OK to be insulted
But mock outrage and being offended is all we have left! I suppose Obama wants to take that away from us too!
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Well, of course I would prefer to cast someone for a Chinese character who is actually Chinese. That's just common sense.

It's like a white american playing a white South African or Russian. I don't see any issue with it because I don't view White Person A any better than white person B. Sure, culturally they are not the same. Just because both appear to simply be white doesn't mean they are the same but it wouldn't bother me. It would really boil down to who's best for the role and the bottom line is just because the character is _____ doesn't mean that an actor from ______ is really the best for the role.

Clearly, not all Asians are the same. I know this because I generally find Japanese girls and Koreans hotter than Chinese but for a film role I don't see any issue with a Japanese playing a Chinese person, or whatever. (I do find it annoying when a lighter skin Asian is playing a character from a generally darker skinned Asian country).
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Re: Ridiculous/insulting racial casting in films

Originally Posted by atxbomber
Making the Kingpin black (which had literally no effect on the character whatsoever outside of his physical appearance) isn't really the same thing as, say, doing a white fella up in make-up and prosthetics so he can portray an Asian.
I'll admit that MCD was really shitty at pulling off being a white guy in that movie. Maybe if they had shown him driving with hands at 10 and 2.
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Man Hayworth was smokin' hot. Cansino, not so much.
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Originally Posted by majorjoe23
I'll admit that MCD was really shitty at pulling off being a white guy in that movie. Maybe if they had shown him driving with hands at 10 and 2.
That's the difference that some people in this thread don't get. There's a world of difference between casting a black guy because it doesn't matter if the character is black or white and casting a black guy and putting him in whiteface to pass him off as white.
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Originally Posted by inri222
I'd like to Shawshank her Redemption.

Which reminds me: Morgan Freeman as "Red" in The Shawshank Redemption.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
I'd like to Shawshank her Redemption.

Which reminds me: Morgan Freeman as "Red" in The Shawshank Redemption.
He was Irish. Maybe...
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He was Irish. Maybe...
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Michael Madsen as Sonny "Black" in Donnie Brasco.
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Originally Posted by Guru Askew
That's the difference that some people in this thread don't get. There's a world of difference between casting a black guy because it doesn't matter if the character is black or white and casting a black guy and putting him in whiteface to pass him off as white.
I completely agree with this. In the movie The Bone Collector the main character is played by Denzel Washington. I liked the movie enough that I bought the book and read it. I was very surprised that the character was white in the book. The next year I met the author and asked if the casting had bothered him and he replied pretty much the same thing. It didn't matter the color of the casting because of how the character was written.
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Originally Posted by majorjoe23
I'll admit that MCD was really shitty at pulling off being a white guy in that movie. Maybe if they had shown him driving with hands at 10 and 2.
"Yo, check this out, Black Kingpin beats the shit out of Daredevil like this: boop boop hoop, yeah but White Kingpin, he beats the shit out of Daredevil like this: be de be dee."

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This guy look Persian to you?

Let's not forget this other fine Arab. Although I guess we can argue that since he's from Spain which was conquered by Moors, this qualify's him. Already too much thinking....



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Long Duk Dong is ridiculously offensive




but still funny?
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A Frenchman portraying a Scot and a Scot portraying a Spaniard. I love it!!!
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Ramirez was Egyptian, not Spanish; he merely worked for Charles V as a metallurgist.
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Another Egyptian portrayal,

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Originally Posted by Rockmjd23
The casts of most biblical epics fall under this category.
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Originally Posted by zoomgirl
I completely agree with this. In the movie The Bone Collector the main character is played by Denzel Washington. I liked the movie enough that I bought the book and read it. I was very surprised that the character was white in the book. The next year I met the author and asked if the casting had bothered him and he replied pretty much the same thing. It didn't matter the color of the casting because of how the character was written.
But Denzel acts more neutral than most white actors.


I always found the natives in King Kong vs. Godzilla to be interesting.

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