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beesonosu 01-10-13 01:14 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 

Originally Posted by foofighters7 (Post 11533993)
If you're being theoretical that's fine but that doesn't sound theoretical. It sounds like you were casting stones like teenagers throwing popcorn at the movies...Perhaps a Herzog film?

I can see your point. Instead, I guess should have said: " I'm guessing you'd think differently if an actor raped someone you care about, but as that isn't the case, carry on being mesmerized by child rapists." Is that better? Were you defending Kinski or Supermallet or both? At any rate, I didn't think I was casting any stones, and I certainly haven't been trying to make unfunny jokes or bringing people's mothers into the discussion. But, just so we're clear here, I'm the one acting like a teenager. Yep, sounds about right.

Nick Martin 01-10-13 01:18 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 
If this thread is to be taken seriously, then I firmly believe the internet owes this man an apology:

http://www.biography.com/imported/im...0680-1-402.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BQmmUTxOpG...bson_beard.jpg

Just sayin'.

Lt Ripley 01-10-13 01:50 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 
But Mel said WORDS! Horrible, horrible words! He can't be forgiven! He's also a religious man. The worst type of scum on the Planet.

I'm going to go watch Mad Max now.

Matthew Chmiel 01-10-13 02:31 AM

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Boba Fett 01-10-13 02:49 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 
Strange she waits to reveal it in a book; for what it's worth his other daughter, Nastassja, only claimed he was verbally and psychologically abusive and she was estranged from him for years.

In fact, I seem to recall, when he wrote his absurdly fabricated autobiography, Nastassja sued him for libel after he implied he had slept with her.

Norm de Plume 01-10-13 03:41 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 
Don't know about the rapage, but he was pretty notorious as an asshole and psycho.

JumpCutz 01-10-13 03:56 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 
The ravings of Klaus Kinski, a totally insane motherfucker. He was an absolutely batshit crazy man. I wouldn't necessarily believe anything that KK ever said. Here's an excerpt from his memoir "All I Need Is Love." This is not a sane person:

"Although I'm trying to escape his eye, Herzog sticks to me like an outhouse fly. The mere thought of his existence here in this wilderness makes me sick. When I see him approaching from afar, I scream at him to stop, that he stinks, that he disgusts me. That I don't want to hear his bullshit. That I can't bear him!

I always hope he'll attack me. Then I'd push him into an eddy full of bloodthirsty piranhas and watch them tear him to pieces.

He should be thrown to the crocodiles alive! An anaconda should throttle him slowly! The sting of a deadly spider should paralyze him! His brain should burst from the most poisonous of snakes! Panthers shouldn't slit him open with their claws, that would be too good for him! No. Big red ants should piss in his eyes, eat his balls, penetrate his asshole, and eat his guts! Syphillis! Malaria! Yellow fever! Leprosy! In vain. The more I wish the most horrible of deaths on him and treat him like the scum that he is, the less I can get rid of him."


He was a magnificent actor though, and a screen legend unlike any other.

Norm de Plume 01-10-13 04:19 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 
Here he goes crazy on the interviewer (after some babble and mutual provocation). Click on CC if you need Eng. subs. There's another, nuttier interview, but it's only in German.

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RocShemp 01-10-13 05:42 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 
I'm trying to think of any Klaus Kinski performance I've seen but nothing comes to mind. Heck, I can't even think what the guy even looks like.


Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 11534009)
How about that Hitler? Hell of a painter, that guy! ;)

One of his favourite paintings is among my favourites as well. :sad:

Nick Danger 01-10-13 06:19 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 

Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 11534009)
How about that Hitler? Hell of a painter, that guy! ;)

You mean Napoleon. Responsible for the deaths of millions of people and the still-used Napoleonic Code.

RocShemp 01-10-13 07:06 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 

Originally Posted by Nick Danger (Post 11534076)
You mean Napoleon. Responsible for the deaths of millions of people and the still-used Napoleonic Code.

And he gave us that horrid vanilla, chocolate, and strawberry ice cream combo. The first two flavors are fine but the strawberry is :yack:

Josh-da-man 01-10-13 07:16 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 

Originally Posted by Boba Fett (Post 11534033)
In fact, I seem to recall, when he wrote his absurdly fabricated autobiography, Nastassja sued him for libel after he implied he had slept with her.

Maybe he was so fucked up that he slept with the wrong daughter.

Osiris3657 01-10-13 08:23 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 

Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 11534062)
I'm trying to think of any Klaus Kinski performance I've seen but nothing comes to mind. Heck, I can't even think what the guy even looks like.



One of his favourite paintings is among my favourites as well. :sad:

Roc, we already know you're DVDTalk's resident "I don't know who anyone is" guy ;) (seriously, I can't count how many celebrity threads you've posted "who's this?")

printerati 01-10-13 08:25 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11533916)
Yeah, really, what does any of that have to do with his acting?


Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11533924)
The same way I watch Roman Polanski movies and admire his abilities as an artist without worrying about his proclivities as a person. Or Woody Allen. Or Tom Cruise. Etc.


Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11533992)
Fair enough. But my point is that bad deeds in one area of a person's life don't automatically invalidate everything else they ever did.

Truly, the Joe Paterno of moderators.

MoviePage 01-10-13 08:30 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 
Lots of the greatest artists and thinkers through history have also been sick bastards. That's just the way it goes. If your goal in life is to avoid experiencing any art or using any scientific advancement that was created by people who were also sick bastards, then you're in for a rude awakening.

RocShemp 01-10-13 08:31 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 

Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 11534157)
Roc, we already know you're DVDTalk's resident "I don't know who anyone is" guy ;) (seriously, I can't count how many celebrity threads you've posted "who's this?")

To be fair, most "celebrities" you guys talk about are bloggers and pretty much celebrities in thir own minds. :p

But in this case I know the name and assumed I was familiar with his work. But for the life of me, I was drawing a blank when trying to think of films in which I'd seen him and then realized I couldn't even think of what he looked like.

PopcornTreeCt 01-10-13 08:39 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 

Originally Posted by Nick Martin (Post 11534013)
If this thread is to be taken seriously, then I firmly believe the internet owes this man an apology:

http://www.biography.com/imported/im...0680-1-402.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BQmmUTxOpG...bson_beard.jpg

Just sayin'.

:lol:

I was never a fan of Kinski so I don't feel the need to furiously defend him.

Mattflix 01-10-13 09:31 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 

Originally Posted by MoviePage (Post 11534168)
Lots of the greatest artists and thinkers through history have also been sick bastards. That's just the way it goes. If your goal in life is to avoid experiencing any art or using any scientific advancement that was created by people who were also sick bastards, then you're in for a rude awakening.

Agreed.

While what Kinski is being accused of is absolutely irredeemable, there is a disconnect at some point. While you might hate Kinski, what about all the other people who contributed to a given movie?

And while again it's not as bad as child rape, there are so many horrible people in Hollywood. Hitchcock & Kubrick weren't exactly nice people. And most of what we know about celebrities are via publicity, who can say that even the ones with friendly images are their real images?

If you were cool with Kinski prior to this reveal then you were already tolerant of quite a bit. Kinski is famous for being psychotic. It makes him interesting and it's almost comedic to a point, but I'm sure it was never a laughing matter to the people around him.

Ky-Fi 01-10-13 09:54 AM

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All right then, let's just enjoy him getting his just desserts:

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Ash Ketchum 01-10-13 10:12 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 

Originally Posted by Ky-Fi (Post 11534263)
All right then, let's just enjoy him getting his just desserts:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ZwQEen1oalk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

RocShemp, surely you must have seen this.

Drexl 01-10-13 10:35 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11533992)
Hear that, big name celebrities, you can rape underage girls--but only once!--if they're older than five and it'll still be okay to like your movies. But do it again and man oh man are we going to stop liking your movies so fast!

Ya shouldn't rape me, Johnny. My father raped me once.

ONCE.

RocShemp 01-10-13 10:36 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 11534296)
RocShemp, surely you must have seen this.

Definitely saw the film (childhood favorite) but don't remember him being in it at all. :lol:

Clearly, I was never a fan of his. :shrug:

Tarantino 01-10-13 11:07 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 

Originally Posted by printerati (Post 11534160)
Truly, the Joe Paterno of moderators.

:lol:

Supermallet 01-10-13 11:42 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 

Originally Posted by printerati (Post 11534160)
Truly, the Joe Paterno of moderators.

:lol: 10 points to you, good sir!

Solid Snake 01-10-13 11:43 AM

Re: Klaus Kinski's daughter claims he raped her multiple times starting when she was
 
If Kinski did rape her. Well that sucks and it sucks even worse that nothing can be done about it.

That doesn't stop him from being one of the greatest actors alive and the overall quality of his works.

I don't like Polanski as person but his direction is great and I appreciate his talent in the craft. I'd rather have him be punished for the rape he commited than have him direct anymore. That doesn't deter him from being a great director.

People need to separate these entities. Just because they do or did something bad doesn't all of a sudden destroy quality material they've done. Just makes them shitty people on a personal level.


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