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Tarantino 12-26-12 09:24 PM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by scott1598 (Post 11518699)
anyone else notice Tom Savini?

Yep.

OldBoy 12-26-12 09:28 PM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Tarantino (Post 11518706)
Yep.

thought so. it was like a blink and miss it cameo eventhough he was in the background for a bit.

nickdawgy 12-26-12 09:33 PM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
I liked it a lot. On par with Pulp Fiction and definitely better than Basterds, which says a lot.

It did feel like it dragged a bit at the end, but maybe it's because every damn movie is 2-3 hours and change now a days.

Osiris3657 12-26-12 10:11 PM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
Including Django Unchained, I'd have to rate QT's films as such:

1. Pulp Fiction
2. Inglourious Basterds
3. Django Unchained
4. Jackie Brown
5. Kill Bill Vol.1/2
6. Reservoir Dogs




7. Death Proof

inri222 12-26-12 10:35 PM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
1. Jackie Brown
2. Pulp Fiction
3. Reservoir Dogs
4. Inglourious Basterds
5. Django Unchained
6. Death Proof
7. Kill Bill Vol. 2
8. Kill Bill Vol. 1

Rypro 525 12-26-12 10:48 PM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
Quick question, was that Sam Jackson also as the bartender in the scene where we meet Calvin for the first time?

Fantastic fucking movie. all the main performances were great, my thoughts on the KKK scene, sure it prob could of been cut, but that scene got a huge reaction at my screening & played perfectly.

also a little bit on the scene where Calvin's hand is bleeding.
Spoiler:
Leo smashed his hand on one of the glasses and never broke character despite bleeding pretty badly, & completed the full scene with the broken hand & thats the take used in the movie

bluetoast 12-26-12 11:15 PM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
No the bartender was a different guy.

Boba Fett 12-27-12 12:19 AM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
Good, not great. It only felt like it dragged because the two halves felt like different films. Still, far better than most directors could ever hope to aspire to. Glad to see Tarantino finally gave John Jarratt a role after leaving him in the cold over "Death Proof."

I hope for an extended cut, if only for the first one-on-one encounter between Django and Stephen, which got cut. It was by far one of the strongest moments in the script and it's sad it got cut; it really amps the tension between the two.

One nice moment I did find to be incredibly powerful and understated is when Schultz tells Candie

Spoiler:
That Dumas was black; the only usage of the word in the movie and it had great meaning given the context and the character.

PopcornTreeCt 12-27-12 12:51 AM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
Pulp Fiction
Django Unchained
Inglorious Basterds
Kill Bill v1 & v2
Reservoir Dogs
Death Proof
Jackie Brown

Supermallet 12-27-12 02:04 AM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
Inglorious Basterds
Jackie Brown
Pulp Fiction
Kill Bill
Death Proof
Django Unchained
Reservoir Dogs

Boba Fett 12-27-12 02:40 AM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
Jackie Brown
Inglorious Basterds
Pulp Fiction
Kill Bill
Death Proof
Django Unchained
Reservoir Dogs

Supermallet 12-27-12 03:11 AM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
I like the way you rank, boy.

Ash Ketchum 12-27-12 05:11 AM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by brainee (Post 11518463)
Surprised to see myself giving this the lowest score so far (3/5). There was a lot of good stuff in there, to be sure. But it really went downhill for me when
Spoiler:
Waltz's and DiCaprio's characters died. Besides taking two of the best characters and actors out of the movie too soon, it struck me as a monumentally stupid action by a character which 2+ hours of the movie had been building up as smart. For what he knew, Schultz was essentially signing the death warrant of Django, Hildy, and himself. All because he couldn't swallow his pride for a handshake. After that, all the gore and action just felt hollow to me. I didn't feel the surge of emotion that the best revenge movies elicit. It felt like a filmmaker's indulgence. I knew Schultz shaking Candie's hand and walking out would've been a shit ending. But surely the script could've been written in a different way.


I understand what you're saying, but my rationale for that is that the best-laid plans often go awry when emotions get the better of you, which is especially startling in this case because the character had been so self-controlled throughout. But finally, he just snapped as a result of too many provocations and everything went to hell. It made sense to me on an emotional level.

nickdawgy 12-27-12 05:27 AM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 11518836)
Pulp Fiction
Django Unchained
Inglorious Basterds
Kill Bill v1 & v2
Reservoir Dogs
Death Proof
Jackie Brown

This is exactly how I'd rank them. Jackie Brown was forgettable.

sauce07 12-27-12 09:11 AM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
Here is Tarantino explaining his thinking behind the con Schultz plays on Candie

Quentin Tarantino, 'Django Unchained' Director, Challenged Us To A Debate On A 'Harebrained' Plot Point

Ash Ketchum 12-27-12 09:54 AM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by sauce07 (Post 11518995)
Here is Tarantino explaining his thinking behind the con Schultz plays on Candie

Quentin Tarantino, 'Django Unchained' Director, Challenged Us To A Debate On A 'Harebrained' Plot Point

Thanks for that link, Sauce. That's a very interesting discussion and it's pretty neat that Tarantino sought out a critic to explain his point. I buy his argument, but then I tend to be in tune with Tarantino's sensibilities most of the time anyway.

bluetoast 12-27-12 10:05 AM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
yeah thanks for the link, good discussion.

OldBoy 12-27-12 11:02 AM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
1. Pulp Fiction
2. Inglourious Basterds
3. Kill Bill vol. 1 & 2
4. Django Unchained
5. Reservoir Dogs
6. Death Proof (1<sup>st</sup> half)
7. Death Proof (2<sup>nd</sup> half)
8. Jackie Brown

Supermallet 12-27-12 11:45 AM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
It seemed clear to me that Schultz was trying to get Hildy for a paltry sum, and that even if he went straight to Candie and and offered him a lot, Candie could still say no. The plot made sense to me.

I like the point about Don Johnson's character. He's a guy who sells pretty women. Candie sells fighters. It would have raised a lot of questions for Schultz to come in out of the blue and offer to buy Hildy.

I will say that the interview makes me appreciate the movie a bit more.

inri222 12-27-12 11:52 AM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by nickdawgy (Post 11518903)
This is exactly how I'd rank them. Jackie Brown was forgettable.

Really? And why is that?

Mike86 12-27-12 11:57 AM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
I loved it from start to finish. Waltz and Jackson were fantastic in their roles. Also thought the KKK scene was pretty funny. Also really liked the song selections in the film. Tarantino has yet to disappoint me.

inri222 12-27-12 12:03 PM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by brainee (Post 11518463)
Surprised to see myself giving this the lowest score so far (3/5). There was a lot of good stuff in there, to be sure. But it really went downhill for me when
Spoiler:
Waltz's and DiCaprio's characters died. Besides taking two of the best characters and actors out of the movie too soon, it struck me as a monumentally stupid action by a character which 2+ hours of the movie had been building up as smart. For what he knew, Schultz was essentially signing the death warrant of Django, Hildy, and himself. All because he couldn't swallow his pride for a handshake. After that, all the gore and action just felt hollow to me. I didn't feel the surge of emotion that the best revenge movies elicit. It felt like a filmmaker's indulgence. I knew Schultz shaking Candie's hand and walking out would've been a shit ending. But surely the script could've been written in a different way.


I did like the KKK scene ... got huge laughs in the theater. And the acting was top-notch, especially Waltz. I think there's a great movie in there. But as is, to call this one the best movies of the year feels like massive overrating.

Spoiler:
I do agree with you but the reason he probably killed off those 2 characters is because up to that point with all the good lines & scenery chewing they made Foxx look like a supporting character. There had to be a point in which he took over as the lead.

Ash Ketchum 12-27-12 12:53 PM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
I was wondering what black scholar Henry Louis Gates would think of this film and--lo and behold!--it's there on his website, The Root: a 3-part interview he conducted with Tarantino on DJANGO UNCHAINED.

WARNING: the interview is filled with spoilers if you haven't yet seen the film.

Here's the link to Part 1:

http://www.theroot.com/views/taranti...django-trilogy

Supermallet 12-27-12 01:36 PM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
Thanks for the interview link, Ash. The more I read about the movie, the more I read what Tarantino is saying and doing in it, the more I think about it, the more I think it will raise itself in my personal ranking over time.

brainee 12-27-12 03:36 PM

Re: Django Unchained (Tarantino, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
In line with QT rankings ... "Pulp Fiction" is #1 by a long ways. Everything works for me, and it's one of those movies I never tire of watching. I also respect it more in retrospect that it's his one movie that feels like an original (instead of borrowing and updating older genres). "Reservoir Dogs" is a distant #2. "Death Proof" is in last by an equally large margin. The only QT movie I outright didn't enjoy. I find it difficult to separate everything else. I enjoy all of them, but they all have some shortcomings for me.


the more I think about it, the more I think it will raise itself in my personal ranking over time.
Probably for me too. 3/5 is more likely rating it against other QT movies. I should've given it a little higher score.

So what old genre/style is left for QT? He's done martial arts (both Shaw Brothers and Baby Cart style), spaghetti western, blaxploitation, HK action, grindhouse thriller, war. I know he loves 60s and 70s eurohorror ... but that won't adapt to pleasing a modern audience as well as the others.


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