Exactly. Commercially viable /= quality. Plus, animation aimed at adults doesn't have a great box office track record.

A studio won't back a (presumably) cheap, bloody, animated zombie film from one of the top directors working today?

Does not compute to me.

That POC video didn't exactly excite me, either. But, then again, I've also never read the comic.

Someone posted this on the KS comments page:

Be aware that you are backing the Animatic to sell the Pitch, not the actual movie production.... did you really think a movie would cost $400k? I guess that's why they are not promising DVD's or BLU-Rays or a digital download of the animatic. The animatic can't be made public until the movie is done and screened to the public or else it will spoil it.

So if the pitch turns into a movie, promise us the movie I still don't see why they couldn't

It's David Fincher. They're probably worried he'll do 100 takes per shot...and in animation...that shit gets expensive.

Good use of Southern Culture's "White Trash" song.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/ric...her-net-worth/

David Fincher is a director of films and music videos with a net worth of $65 million.

But why your money when you can use other people's money?

Exactly. He made his money by using the money of others, so it's not that surprising. It is, however, totally fucking stupid.

Capitalism 101.

I don't think getting other people to give you money to do something you want to do ever qualifies as stupid.

Meanwhile...here's hoping Ti West's first mainstream horror film doesn't completely suck ass and have him selling out due to Eli Roth picking him up recently.

I guess this wasn't enough to sell it. And the producers/investors like it, but want to see a different "version"?

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If I'm not mistaken, Fincher did a lot of 'free' conceptual and pre-production work on Fight Club, too.

I don't buy it for a second. It's just someone's idea of viral marketing. Total publicity stunt.

Maybe. It will certainly raise awareness of the project. But that still doesn't mean that Fox (or whoever) will spend $100mil to get it made. Fincher could very well get the $400k, make the promo video, and nothing happens of it.

Goon? Didn't we already have a teaser for this? It featured a barfight against zombies, as I recall.



EDIT:

Yeah, that's the teaser I remember.

Considering V/H/S and The Innkeepers, I'd be impressed if his first mainstream next horror film didn't completely suck ass. These things happen in 3s.

Yep, over 2 years ago. http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/...ion-comic.html

And then the original thread from 2008 - http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/...ions-goon.html

If people really want to kickstart a pitch, more power to them I guess. But I know Kickstarter recently banned hardware projects where no prototype is built, and this strikes me as similar. In fact, all you're doing is funding the "prototype" itself...with no copy of it even at the highest tier! I'm not sure this should be allowed. When I Kickstart something, I want to Kickstart towards a final product.

Yeah but to be fair the prototype will need to be kept secret until after the movie is out...but I agree, the investor needs to get something, maybe get a digital download of it at the appropriate time at least.

Final 2 days for the Kickstarter, and it hasn't reached its goal yet.

They may not be allowed to promise something they can't guarantee to deliver. Also, the story reel they develop is to pitch it to a studio, which would want distribution rights, and promising the finished movie to backers would muck that up.

Kickstarter has really tried to buck against that "pre-order" mentality of many projects and backers. It's not unheard of for a project to ask for funding and not promise the finished product in any of the rewards. Some projects don't translate well to delivering the final project as a reward, and thus the rewards are for other, ancillary items (T-Shirts, artwork, etc.). It's up to the backer to decide if the reward is worth their money, but sometimes you may back a project just because you want to see it happen, and want to help.

Also, mass producing physical hardware is very different than mass producing a piece of media (print, book, music, movie, etc.), which is why the requirement for a prototype is there for hardware, but not for other types of projects.

Before any Kickstarter goes live, Kickstarter reviews it to make sure it meets their guidelines. Obviously this project did.

Less than $800 to go, They'll get funded, I'm sure.

Yes, but let's face it, their requirements are loosy goosy. If you have a Kickstarter, you're under no obligation to actually deliver anything, and there's no recourse for projects that are successfully funded and people are unhappy with. Here's the key verbiage right from their website: You’ll never give up ownership or pay back any funds raised on Kickstarter. Ever. (link: http://www.kickstarter.com/start)

I've heard their review process does filter out things that don't fit their guidelines. They don't have very strict guidelines though, as you point out. However, if The Goon was violating some guideline about having to offer the finished project as a reward, it would've gotten caught.

Legally speaking, you are:
http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/...%20basics#Acco
Now, Kickstarter itself isn't going to enforce this legal requirement. They won't refund the money themselves, as they already passed the money over to the project creator, and they aren't going to sue on behalf of the backers. The backers, however, could sue individually or group together in a class action against the project creator.

Just to be clear, I'm not arguing that Goon was breaking any guidelines, but IMHO it goes against the "spirit" of Kickstarter.

The "spirit" of Kickstarter is to let a group of individuals help fund a project that would otherwise not get off the ground, by each contributing a (relatively) small amount. The rewards are an incentive for pledging, but similar to a PBS tote-bag, shouldn't be viewed as the point of pledging.