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CloverClover 08-08-12 07:43 PM

Re: who is the next PT Anderson
 

Originally Posted by bootsy (Post 11339111)
This PTA love is a little too much. This is a borderline cringeworthy thread. He's a very good director but he isn't THAT good to have a thread where no director compares to him. He has a good resume but he isn't the best thing going right now. He's had one movie(TWBB) that I really loved but outside of that nothing that I would qualify as movies that are masterpieces. He's a good director with plenty of room to grow for greatness, let's leave it at that for now.

Especially when he has yet to make an original film (right now he is in Malick/Kubrick copying phase, ten years ago he was in the Scorsese/Altman copying phase). All his projects start out as "I want to make a film like ____" . He adds a melodramatic twist to them, but he is not an artist the way the masters are, whose work begins and end from their imagination.

His work also doesn't have real maturity. All the F-words and screaming scenes just take away from the big picture. As for who is the next American directing star? No one. The Hollywood system just isn't designed to allow this kind of art-filmmaking anymore. Film is dead as they say.

CloverClover 08-08-12 07:49 PM

Re: who is the next PT Anderson
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11339528)
I'm still waiting for Paul Thomas Anderson to become Paul Thomas Anderson. So far every one of his movies have felt like "Paul Thomas Anderson does his version of [insert director here]." Even Punch Drunk Love and There Will Be Blood, his two best and most mature films, are PTA doing Godard and Kubrick, respectively. I'm quite excited for the day we see a PTA film that's in his own voice completely.

Exactly, I think the new generation of film watchers have emerged who haven't seen a lot, so PTA is their first experience with art film.

Sondheim 08-08-12 08:01 PM

Re: who is the next PT Anderson
 

Originally Posted by CloverClover (Post 11339789)
He adds a melodramatic twist to them, but he is not an artist the way the masters are, whose work begins and end from their imagination.

Unless you consider people like Mauritz Stiller and Griffith and Sjostrom the only "masters" of film, then you're deluding yourself here. Pretty much every filmmaker who has made a film in the past 90 years was heavily influenced by another filmmaker - and that includes the "greats" like John Ford and Bergman and Kurosawa and Welles and Ozu and Renoir and Hitchcock (and certainly the masters of the French New Wave and of New Hollywood and so on.) Yes, they each eventually developed their own unique style - but that style wasn't entirely derived "from their own imaginations."

Right now he is in the Malick/Kubrick copying phase
Oh give me a break. I don't even love either of his two most recent films (his only two great films, in my opinion, are Boogie Nights and Magnolia - and yes, both are heavily influenced by Scorsese and Altman, and no I don't think that detracts from their greatness since he brings his own unique voice to both films) but you're selling them way short if you think they're merely "copying" either Malick or Kubrick. They show those influences, yes - just as many of Kurosawa's films clearly show the influence of Ford - but they're pretty uniquely his own films.

conscience 08-08-12 08:02 PM

Re: who is the next PT Anderson
 

Originally Posted by CloverClover (Post 11339798)
Exactly, I think the new generation of film watchers have emerged who haven't seen a lot, so PTA is their first experience with art film.

Offense taken I guess because I like all kinds of cinema but I like PTA too. Shocker, I know.

bootsy 08-08-12 08:32 PM

Re: who is the next PT Anderson
 

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe (Post 11339779)
Bro, you've been talking shit. Mad shit.

So have others in this thread,









Bro


including you,









Bro

Throwing Copper 08-09-12 12:34 AM

Re: who is the next PT Anderson
 
:lol: Wow. What a steaming pile of shit this thread became.

Remind me never to get on bootsy's bad side. :D

thematahara 08-09-12 10:39 AM

Re: who is the next PT Anderson
 
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h5...5-_DSC4480.jpg

Ash Ketchum 08-09-12 01:00 PM

Re: who is the next PT Anderson
 

Originally Posted by thematahara (Post 11340428)

:lol:

(I was wondering who else here would make that connection.)

clappj 08-09-12 01:09 PM

Re: who is the next PT Anderson
 
PTA Jr.

philly1981 08-10-12 08:45 AM

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wow i didn't expect this thread to last lol I appreciate everyone's opinion


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