How the heck is Barbarella PG?
07-06-12 | 04:41 PM
#52
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Re: How the heck is Barbarella PG?
Yeah, Jack Valenti that hardcore Reagan-era conservative Christian.Like it or not the MPAA and the ratings board are the best system in the world and revolutionized filmmaking in America. Is it a perfect system? No, but it's better than all the others.
People lament that the MPAA often dwells on sexual content and is more permissive about violence. They often point to Europe because they are less “scissor happy” with the sex and nudity. But have you ever read anything about the UK and Germany's censor boards? The UK doesn't just censor extreme violence they cut out head-butts from Disney films and censor horse-falls from 80 year old films. Germany cuts virtually every R rated American action film down to its PG-15 rating.
And making all of it worse is that it is government implemented censorship.
At least here in America it's a self governed industry group with the best interests of the free market and the studio’s profits in mind. Under it all the MPAA has a responsibility to maintain good report between one of America's biggest industries and its biggest audience (the American people). Despite its flaws people generally feel like they understand and can trust the MPAA (compared to the utterly failed TV ratings system). I don't always agree with their criteria and I'm aware of their hypocrisy, but it could be so much worse.
Just be proud of yourself that you are savvy enough to be onto their bullshit and overlook their sometimes arbitrary, sometimes biased decisions. It isn't always fair. But the alternative is that your tax dollars go to pay a governing censor board that decides arbitrarily what you can see and rather than working with the studios and filmmakers by making suggestions of cuts, they just take the final cut, chop out what they don't want you to see and release it without any formal statement that anything has been done.
It is bad over there. Really other than their greater tolerance for nudity, everything else is much sillier. They are closer to the intolerance of overly religious countries. I can see it getting to the point of having no offence to anyone will be tolerated type of system.
07-06-12 | 05:37 PM
#53
Re: How the heck is Barbarella PG?
What changed?! PG-13 muddied the waters even more!
My favorite example is Titanic and Small Soldiers. Both were released the same week, both were rated PG-13. Small Soldiers received the rating because of cartoon violence and a scene where a kid is shot in the leg with a corn-on-the-cob holder. Titanic received the rating for language, full frontal nudity, violence, dead bodies floating in the water ... yeah, those are comparable.
This may be a little over the top, but I pulled it from one of those parent-advocate websites (and I had to laugh -- the ads at the top were for a cocktail mix and for suntan lotion with a very curvy model silhouetted) ...
Pushing the limits of the PG-13 rating, Titanic includes multiple views of a woman’s naked breasts (as she poses for an artist), a sexual encounter between an unmarried teen couple (some activity shown), a sexual expletive along with other mild and moderate profanities, and glamorization of gambling, drinking and smoking. As well, suicide is contemplated and violent threats against life are made. The peril and trauma of the passengers on board the fated ship may also be disturbing to some viewers.
My favorite example is Titanic and Small Soldiers. Both were released the same week, both were rated PG-13. Small Soldiers received the rating because of cartoon violence and a scene where a kid is shot in the leg with a corn-on-the-cob holder. Titanic received the rating for language, full frontal nudity, violence, dead bodies floating in the water ... yeah, those are comparable.
This may be a little over the top, but I pulled it from one of those parent-advocate websites (and I had to laugh -- the ads at the top were for a cocktail mix and for suntan lotion with a very curvy model silhouetted) ...
Pushing the limits of the PG-13 rating, Titanic includes multiple views of a woman’s naked breasts (as she poses for an artist), a sexual encounter between an unmarried teen couple (some activity shown), a sexual expletive along with other mild and moderate profanities, and glamorization of gambling, drinking and smoking. As well, suicide is contemplated and violent threats against life are made. The peril and trauma of the passengers on board the fated ship may also be disturbing to some viewers.
07-06-12 | 06:43 PM
#55
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Re: How the heck is Barbarella PG?
MPAA ratings are a joke and wildly inconsistent but as Mabuse said, we could simply have the government snip apart a movie instead like in many other countries. Don't want that.
07-06-12 | 08:14 PM
#56
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07-06-12 | 10:17 PM
#58
Re: How the heck is Barbarella PG?
Clash of the Titans (1981) Parental Guide
The Beastmaster (1982) Parental Guide
Sheena: Queen of the Jungle (1984) Parental Guide
Dragonslayer (1981) Parental Guide
Poltergeist (1982) Parental Guide
Sixteen Candles (1984) Parental Guide
Swamp Thing (1982) Parental Guide
Brainstorm (1983) Parental Guide
Looker (1981) Parental Guide
The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (1988) Parental Guide
I'm pretty sure this PG-13 movie occurred in the '80s too...
The Woman in Red (1984)
There is a brief full frontal nudity shot of a woman when she gets out of bed. Her breasts are also shown.
07-06-12 | 11:07 PM
#60
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Re: How the heck is Barbarella PG?
Sheena: Queen of the Jungle (1984) (PG)
This movie had almost as much nudity as Tarzan w/ Bo Derrik. I saw this during a Saturday afternoon matinee, and I remember mothers reacting in horror as their little ones were exposed to Tanya's titties and bare ass. They were tripping over each other in a mad dash for the EXIT.
This movie had almost as much nudity as Tarzan w/ Bo Derrik. I saw this during a Saturday afternoon matinee, and I remember mothers reacting in horror as their little ones were exposed to Tanya's titties and bare ass. They were tripping over each other in a mad dash for the EXIT.
07-06-12 | 11:34 PM
#61
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Re: How the heck is Barbarella PG?
Figments of our PG imagination?
Clash of the Titans (1981) Parental Guide
The Beastmaster (1982) Parental Guide
Sheena: Queen of the Jungle (1984) Parental Guide
Dragonslayer (1981) Parental Guide
Poltergeist (1982) Parental Guide
Sixteen Candles (1984) Parental Guide
Swamp Thing (1982) Parental Guide
Brainstorm (1983) Parental Guide
Looker (1981) Parental Guide
The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (1988) Parental Guide
I'm pretty sure this PG-13 movie occurred in the '80s too...
The Woman in Red (1984)
Clash of the Titans (1981) Parental Guide
The Beastmaster (1982) Parental Guide
Sheena: Queen of the Jungle (1984) Parental Guide
Dragonslayer (1981) Parental Guide
Poltergeist (1982) Parental Guide
Sixteen Candles (1984) Parental Guide
Swamp Thing (1982) Parental Guide
Brainstorm (1983) Parental Guide
Looker (1981) Parental Guide
The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (1988) Parental Guide
I'm pretty sure this PG-13 movie occurred in the '80s too...
The Woman in Red (1984)
07-06-12 | 11:43 PM
#62
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: How the heck is Barbarella PG?
Sheena: Queen of the Jungle (1984) (PG)
This movie had almost as much nudity as Tarzan w/ Bo Derrik. I saw this during a Saturday afternoon matinee, and I remember mothers reacting in horror as their little ones were exposed to Tanya's titties and bare ass. They were tripping over each other in a mad dash for the EXIT.
This movie had almost as much nudity as Tarzan w/ Bo Derrik. I saw this during a Saturday afternoon matinee, and I remember mothers reacting in horror as their little ones were exposed to Tanya's titties and bare ass. They were tripping over each other in a mad dash for the EXIT.
I remember when Sheena was showing up on HBO back in the '80s in the middle of the afternoon (which was a time of day when they didn't show R-rated films - those were only shown at night). Apparently, the film was shown "open-matted" on TV and some scenes that were cropped off in the theater weren't that way anymore. So in the bathing scene in a river or lake from the movie, Tanya Roberts was shown with complete full-frontal nudity. Yeah, she couldn't act, but - damn! - was she stacked! That is, by far, the best scene in the whole movie when it's shown open-matted. It's no wonder that HBO would play this PG-rated movie seemingly all the time in the middle of the afternoon.
07-06-12 | 11:52 PM
#63
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Re: How the heck is Barbarella PG?
Good one!
I remember when Sheena was showing up on HBO back in the '80s in the middle of the afternoon (which was a time of day when they didn't show R-rated films - those were only shown at night). Apparently, the film was shown "open-matted" on TV and some scenes that were cropped off in the theater weren't that way anymore. So in the bathing scene in a river or lake from the movie, Tanya Roberts was shown with complete full-frontal nudity. Yeah, she couldn't act, but - damn! - was she stacked! That is, by far, the best scene in the whole movie when it's shown open-matted. It's no wonder that HBO would play this PG-rated movie seemingly all the time in the middle of the afternoon.
I remember when Sheena was showing up on HBO back in the '80s in the middle of the afternoon (which was a time of day when they didn't show R-rated films - those were only shown at night). Apparently, the film was shown "open-matted" on TV and some scenes that were cropped off in the theater weren't that way anymore. So in the bathing scene in a river or lake from the movie, Tanya Roberts was shown with complete full-frontal nudity. Yeah, she couldn't act, but - damn! - was she stacked! That is, by far, the best scene in the whole movie when it's shown open-matted. It's no wonder that HBO would play this PG-rated movie seemingly all the time in the middle of the afternoon.
07-07-12 | 11:22 AM
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07-07-12 | 04:43 PM
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07-08-12 | 05:43 PM
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Re: How the heck is Barbarella PG?
I never got what all the hubbub was about with Barbarella.
It's a pretty terrible movie, extremely dated, not funny, horrible acting. It's not even fun in the way Flash Gordon is.
Was there more nudity than the little bit in the very opening when she is floating around while getting changed?
It's free on Amazon Prime now.
It's a pretty terrible movie, extremely dated, not funny, horrible acting. It's not even fun in the way Flash Gordon is.
Was there more nudity than the little bit in the very opening when she is floating around while getting changed?
It's free on Amazon Prime now.
07-09-12 | 12:12 AM
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Re: How the heck is Barbarella PG?
Actually, it was pretty dated when it came out. I saw it at that time and could barely stand it.
07-09-12 | 12:27 PM
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Re: How the heck is Barbarella PG?
It's funny that the other major Dino Delaurentis film from 1968, Danger Diabolik, is way better made, way more fun, way more sexy, has better effects, better music, everything. Yet Barbarella is famous around the world and no one has seen Diabolik.
07-09-12 | 09:53 PM
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Re: How the heck is Barbarella PG?
I only found out about Danger: Diabolik because it was on MST3K (where it is considered by a lot of MST fans to be one of the better quality movies to be on the show). I even bought the DVD of it (the movie itself without the MST3K treatment, that is) because it is such a fun movie to watch.
And then there's Barbarella, which is mostly a dull dud. It doesn't say much for a movie when the uncut opening credits are the highlight of the entire film.
07-09-12 | 10:00 PM
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05-28-13 | 02:40 PM
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Re: How the heck is Barbarella PG?
Barbarella was released in the USA before the MPAA introduced the motion picture rating system on November 1, 1968. It was consequently released with a tag "Suggested For Mature Audiences". A re-release in 1977 (to cash in on the success of Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope) was edited to obtain a "PG" rating and was called "Barbarella: Queen Of The Galaxy". The video version is of the original uncut version and not the "PG" version (despite the subtitle "Queen of the Galaxy" and the "PG" rating on the cover).
The version now on video in Australia is of the Laser Disc version which has a more "nude" opening credit scene. The difference in the credits occurs when 'David Hemmings' credit appears, from then on the floating titles reveal more of Jane Fonda than the original version and video did.
The original European version had all the nudity intact on its first release.
05-28-13 | 02:48 PM
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Re: How the heck is Barbarella PG?
No. Barbarella was originally rated M (Mature), then rated R when R became a thing, then edited to PG (Barbarella Queen of the Galaxy) to cash in on Star Wars hype. The original version was and still is rated R.