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RocShemp 06-07-12 08:59 AM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Gunde (Post 11262558)
Well that's just the way it is today. Aside from the Transformers movies most big budget Hollywood flicks seem to have really shoddy CGI in places.

Even the TF films fall prey to the ocassional bits of shoddy CGI work. Michael Bay even acknowledged in the audio commentary of ROTF how crappy the CGI was for the final fight between Optimus Prime and the Fallen.

Supermallet 06-07-12 09:05 AM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Burnt Thru (Post 11262545)
Spoiler:
The space jockeys are mostly new though since we haven't seen them without their helmets and suits on up to this point.


It's frustrating that many things could have been improved about this movie, though at the same time there are still plenty of impressive moments and nice little ideas. Flawed certainly, but better than Sunshine - which had the same oriental fella in it.

I have no love for Sunshine but I can't really say this was better. At least that movie had the sense to have a small number of characters and a singular villain.

RocShemp 06-07-12 09:11 AM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
I enjoyed Sunshine but felt the movie would have been better without the tacked on villain.

Supermallet 06-07-12 09:16 AM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
Oh, I agree. But this movie has multiple villains, which makes it feel even less focused than Sunshine.

B.A. 06-07-12 09:16 AM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11261770)
I thought this was almost a complete stinker. Fassbender is exceptional, but the plot is awful. The characters act irrationally, and there are too many of them to begin with. The premise really is exactly the same as AvP, and the end reminded me more of Alien: Resurrection than anything else. Ridley Scott seems to have completely forgotten what made the first film scary, because this movie is big, loud and overly complicated. It has none of the elegance or grace of Alien, and the villain(s) are ridiculous.

I knew this movie wouldn't be as good as Alien, but I'm very disappointed in how badly it turned out. Somebody stop Ridley before he ruins Blade Runner as well.

Now I'm disheartened.


73% at RT a little while ago.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/prometheus_2012/

B.A. 06-07-12 09:18 AM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11261903)
I think a director's cut could help aspects of the film, but there are some fundamental storytelling flaws in the film that I can't imagine any director's cut would fix. I could be wrong.

Director's Cut elevated Scott's Kingdom of Heaven. It went from good to fantastic.

Supermallet 06-07-12 09:20 AM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
Yes, I agree, the DC of KoH is one of Scott's best films. As I said, a DC of Prometheus could make it better, but I have a hard time seeing it being great given the choices they've made.

B.A. 06-07-12 09:25 AM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
I'm not the Alien fanatic that my brother-in-law is. He has been dying to see this for months - hope he isn't disappointed.

Dr. DVD 06-07-12 01:32 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by B.A. (Post 11262742)
Now I'm disheartened.


73% at RT a little while ago.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/prometheus_2012/

What's important to note is that it's at 78% with the top critics (what most people will be reading) at this point and isn't being universally panned as much as praised for visuals and criticized for lack of good writing.

My guess is that it will end up a tad north of 60% and the consensus will be it is a visual treat with little else to offer.

RichC2 06-07-12 02:00 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
What I tend to look for is what the scores are -- a movie can score 99% based off 3 star reviews and literally be an "ok" movie, this movie is actually polarizing with a lot of very high scores and quite a few very low. I prefer that.

devilshalo 06-07-12 02:38 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
So how did LV 223 become LV 426? There was just a lot of action sequences that were thrown in just to have them with no cohesive overall plot.

Lt Ripley 06-07-12 03:05 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by devilshalo (Post 11263300)
So how did LV 223 become LV 426? There was just a lot of action sequences that were thrown in just to have them with no cohesive overall plot.

Many planets have multiple moons.

Solid Snake 06-07-12 03:32 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
but.....it's the same place no? How would multiple moons switch up the location name?

Supermallet 06-07-12 04:29 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
It is not the same place.

Edit: Or it might be the same gas giant and LV 223 and LV 426 are two of the moons that orbit said planet.

Lt Ripley 06-07-12 04:37 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11263510)
It is not the same place.

Edit: Or it might be the same gas giant and LV 223 and LV 426 are two of the moons that orbit said planet.

Yep, it is a moon.

Solid Snake 06-07-12 05:15 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11263510)
It is not the same place.

Edit: Or it might be the same gas giant and LV 223 and LV 426 are two of the moons that orbit said planet.

Spoiler:
so let get this straight...that downed Spacejockey ship in Alien...isn't the same one in Prometheus? 2 different locations...w/ a fucked up space jockey ship?

Supermallet 06-07-12 05:18 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
Apparently so. Or Lindelof couldn't bother to fact check.

RichC2 06-07-12 05:23 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
Yes,
Spoiler:
they're not actually related and this isn't actually a prequel. I realize that's a M Night Shyamalan-level twist that could potentially be a spoiler, only you know, it's not.

Supermallet 06-07-12 05:25 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
Well, it's a prequel in that it takes place before Alien but in the same universe. It's not a prequel in that it doesn't directly tie in to the events of Alien.

Solid Snake 06-07-12 05:32 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11263591)
Apparently so. Or Lindelof couldn't bother to fact check.

Spoiler:
ok, so I haven't seen it but I've read the plot from Wikipedia cuz I'm a whore like that. So Shaw w/ David(ish) will travel to the Spacejocky planet to confront them to know why man was created and why they want to destroy it? So...somehow that will lead to LV 426? But they said that that one would have LESS to do w/ Alien. Uh.....hrmmmm

Supermallet 06-07-12 05:33 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
I might actually see a sequel if they don't bother to tie it in to the rest of the Alien series. If they say "Okay, so Alien was the springboard for the last movie, but now we're in uncharted territory while the events of Alien happen elsewhere" it could be cool.

RichC2 06-07-12 05:35 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
My last comment just got erased in a fury of system lock-ups, yaah. But I actually agree it'll benefit if they veer from the Alien series. But I think they're realizing how many "Alien" fans are still out there and may not have the balls to do it.

Supermallet 06-07-12 05:38 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 
What they should do is say "Okay, Prometheus is its own thing. It takes place in the same universe, but you won't see Ripley in these movies, or Shaw in the Alien movies." Then release a Prometheus sequel AND a new Alien movie.

Solid Snake 06-07-12 05:39 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11263613)
I might actually see a sequel if they don't bother to tie it in to the rest of the Alien series. If they say "Okay, so Alien was the springboard for the last movie, but now we're in uncharted territory while the events of Alien happen elsewhere" it could be cool.

The core idea of who created us is such a greater mystery than anything Alien related. If what seems like this movie pushes to the side and is the sequel to it..then, yes...I'd be very game cuz I'd like something bigger to be explored.

Solid Snake 06-07-12 05:43 PM

Re: Prometheus aka Прометей (Scott, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11263623)
What they should do is say "Okay, Prometheus is its own thing. It takes place in the same universe, but you won't see Ripley in these movies, or Shaw in the Alien movies." Then release a Prometheus sequel AND a new Alien movie.

explain this part cuz Alien is kind of done, no? And unless you want
Spoiler:
an answer to LV 426 being your Alien film...I'm not sure how else that would would work.


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