early Raimi screentest for a more traditional looking Green Goblin
12-17-11 | 03:37 PM
#26
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Re: early Raimi screentest for a more traditional looking Green Goblin
I don't see the tone of a film being independent of the creative choices made within it, but rather resulting from those choices. You change the ingredients in the recipe, and a new flavor would have emerged. Had he gone with something like this, we would probably have also seen changes in camera set-ups, action blocking, dialogue scenes, line delivery, etc. most of which are influenced by the liberties or restrictions of the costume/make-up.
Personally, I think this get-up is an infinitely better visual choice than going with a rigid mask and a high tech flight suit. Does it make sense? Neither do- but this looks a hell of a lot cooler, as well as being truer to the source material. The change didn't add anything. In fact, it ultimately detracted in numerous ways.
Also, this certainly would not have invalidated the concept that Osbourne was wearing was just a 'mask' that could be pulled off at the last minute to make a straight faced emotional appeal. The Mission Impossible movies have traded on this schtick for most if not all of the movies, and those are arguably supposed to require far less of a suspension of disbelief than a series about a guy bit by a spider who then climbs walls and spins webs. This look would have fit the amazing fantasy aspect of the character just fine.
Sam made a horrific call, imo. But after seeing S-m3, it's not all that surprising anymore.
Personally, I think this get-up is an infinitely better visual choice than going with a rigid mask and a high tech flight suit. Does it make sense? Neither do- but this looks a hell of a lot cooler, as well as being truer to the source material. The change didn't add anything. In fact, it ultimately detracted in numerous ways.
Also, this certainly would not have invalidated the concept that Osbourne was wearing was just a 'mask' that could be pulled off at the last minute to make a straight faced emotional appeal. The Mission Impossible movies have traded on this schtick for most if not all of the movies, and those are arguably supposed to require far less of a suspension of disbelief than a series about a guy bit by a spider who then climbs walls and spins webs. This look would have fit the amazing fantasy aspect of the character just fine.
Sam made a horrific call, imo. But after seeing S-m3, it's not all that surprising anymore.
Nice post Paul_SD.
12-17-11 | 09:40 PM
#27
Re: early Raimi screentest for a more traditional looking Green Goblin
Maybe they couldn't get it working right.
12-18-11 | 08:55 AM
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Re: early Raimi screentest for a more traditional looking Green Goblin
Imagine if they had used this version and now the power rangers version was leaked out as a possibility. I can only imagine the surprise.
12-18-11 | 03:30 PM
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Re: early Raimi screentest for a more traditional looking Green Goblin
12-18-11 | 03:47 PM
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Re: early Raimi screentest for a more traditional looking Green Goblin
12-18-11 | 05:49 PM
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Re: early Raimi screentest for a more traditional looking Green Goblin
Green Goblin in the comics books was a very demented scary fuck, hideous.
In that video link, that's almost exactly how he should look, scary and creepy it could have been awesome if they used that instead of Green Goblin Power Ranger.
In that video link, that's almost exactly how he should look, scary and creepy it could have been awesome if they used that instead of Green Goblin Power Ranger.
12-18-11 | 06:58 PM
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Re: early Raimi screentest for a more traditional looking Green Goblin
12-18-11 | 08:12 PM
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Re: early Raimi screentest for a more traditional looking Green Goblin
It does look like one of the evil Power Rangers from Power Rangers In Space.
12-18-11 | 08:44 PM
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Re: early Raimi screentest for a more traditional looking Green Goblin
A shame they didn't use that version, but it wouldn't have saved the numerous other shortcomings. Raimi's films were pretty terrible across the board imo. I welcome the new series.
12-18-11 | 08:45 PM
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12-19-11 | 03:45 AM
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Re: early Raimi screentest for a more traditional looking Green Goblin
The video lacks dramatic lighting, full costuming, proper scoring, and narrative context. This is going to sound pissy, but if you have an imagination, you should easily be able to envision how the raw material in that video could have been the basis of a far more iconic interpretation of the character. Visually it's spot on to the source and the skill of the craftspeople created something flexible enough to reveal subtle facial inflections. I'm flabbergasted anyone would see the rigid rubber and plastic, batman-esque movie costume as superior for this particular character. He should have been much more organic looking. If it strikes people as a little clownish from certain angles, that's fine in my book. It's the contradictions (creepy organic appearance/ slick high tech glider; ineffectually clownish looking one minute/evil and menacing another) that would likely have contributed to an overall visual that was ...discordant and disconcerting. And that would have served this character perfectly.
Last edited by Paul_SD; 12-19-11 at 04:56 AM.
12-19-11 | 06:06 AM
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Re: early Raimi screentest for a more traditional looking Green Goblin
No, I get all that, but it just looks silly, dramatic lighting or not.
