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Old 04-04-12 | 10:54 AM
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I remember him saying something similar just prior to Aliens' release on Blu-ray and the online high-def community went apoplectic. Then it actually came out and looked great.
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Any chance this might get us closer to True Lies and The Abyss on Blu-Ray?
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Look at the HD Titanic TV spots and trailer online. If you have the means, view them on your TV rather than the computer monitor for size. The quality is evident right there and every bit of fine detail is preserved. It's stunning.

Aliens indeed looked fantastic on Blu-ray.
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Any chance this might get us closer to True Lies and The Abyss on Blu-Ray?
No.
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For those curious on the IMAX 3D conversion, which carries a 1.85:1 aspect ratio, it looks like its open matte based upon the brief behind-the-scenes footage currently shown on Apple's trailers website. I wouldn't be surprised if Cameron had all visual effects composed in the aspect ratio when making the film (as he's always been a Super 35 fanboy).

If you jump to a minute in and watch them rotoscoping one of the film's more iconic moments, you can see more on the top and bottom on the computer screen compared to when the finished shot is shown during the featurette.

While not in its true aspect ratio, it looks like at least Cameron didn't crop it.
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I think that change to Titanic is incredibly awesome. Cameron is again the man for responding to it and changing it. It's really cool to see a director respond to something like that.
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
For those curious on the IMAX 3D conversion, which carries a 1.85:1 aspect ratio, it looks like its open matte based upon the brief behind-the-scenes footage currently shown on Apple's trailers website. I wouldn't be surprised if Cameron had all visual effects composed in the aspect ratio when making the film (as he's always been a Super 35 fanboy).

If you jump to a minute in and watch them rotoscoping one of the film's more iconic moments, you can see more on the top and bottom on the computer screen compared to when the finished shot is shown during the featurette.

While not in its true aspect ratio, it looks like at least Cameron didn't crop it.
If I remember correctly, the effects shots were rendered in 2.35:1.
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I saw it in 3D today and later put in my old DVD to look at the stars. Glad the scientist could see the issue because I couldn't see it (was looking for the mirrored starfield). Maybe I'm looking at the wrong shot but I thought it was the shot when rose is on the board right before she hears the rescue boat.
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Just got back from a 10:30 showing in 3D.

In-fucking-credible.

The 3D was so easy on the eyes for the entire running time. No eyestrain, no headaches, no need to rest or look away. It was subtle when it needed to be, and full of depth when it needed to be, all at the right moments. The 3D was just right. No gimmicks of any sort either. If something didn't need to 'pop' out, it didn't. It was a very intelligent 3D experience.

The image itself was crystal clear, textures and facial features were razor sharp and full of great detail. Nothing washed out so the colors were strong, and the image was completely natural. It didn't have any sort of 'digital' look about it in the slightest like other 3D films and trailers seem to have from time to time.

If I didn't know it was a post-conversion, I never would've guessed. It was appropriate in all the right places.

If this were a Blu-ray it would be an absolute hands-down reference title.

Image brightness has been a constant complaint for 3D, but the theater I was in did it justice. The image was nice and bright the entire time but not overblown. Everything was perfectly visible even in the darkest scenes such as portions of the opening underwater wreck sequence, the scene when Rose is frightened by the dimming lights and groans of the sinking ship, and later on when the ship's lights were fried.

The sound mix was exactly the same as you've heard it before, nothing tweaked.

The end credits were not revised, they are the same: The 3D credits appear without music after the film's original credits have ended.

I've lost count how many times I've seen Titanic, yet this time felt like the very first only I knew all the lines. This film belongs on the big screen. At home it just doesn't compare at all. I'll definitely be making a return trip to see it again. I wish I could see it in IMAX but there's no theater close enough that's showing it. The local IMAX theater by me doesn't have it.

Titanic is back, and I'm very happy to see it again. Like an old friend, but shiny and new. Score one for nostalgia.

Originally Posted by resinrats
Maybe I'm looking at the wrong shot but I thought it was the shot when rose is on the board right before she hears the rescue boat.
As far as I know that was indeed the shot, and some stars seemed to be brighter than I remember. Maybe that was the change to them or their overall position, I'm not sure. It was never something I paid much attention to other than thinking it was such a beautiful night for something so horrible to take place.
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How are the nips? Do they jump right out at you?
Old 04-05-12 | 02:51 PM
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How are the nips? Do they jump right out at you?
That scene has a nice, subtle sense of depth to it. They obviously weren't going 'overboard' with it.
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best post conversion job. period! (wow... wow!)

question: is the REAL-D versions in it's OAR of 2.35? The IMAX-Digital 3D version I saw looked 1.66 with slight black borders on the sides.

the sound seemed too front heavy - maybe I was sitting too close but the surrounds seemed too sporadic and not what I'm used to with the 6.1 DTS-ES mix on the DVD. On full range IMAX speakers the climatic breaking in half of the ship was insane.

I got to see this again ...
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Originally Posted by Giles
best post conversion job. period! (wow... wow!)

question: is the REAL-D versions in it's OAR of 2.35? The IMAX-Digital 3D version I saw looked 1.66 with slight black borders on the sides.

the sound seemed too front heavy - maybe I was sitting too close but the surrounds seemed too sporadic and not what I'm used to with the 6.1 DTS-ES mix on the DVD. On full range IMAX speakers the climatic breaking in half of the ship was insane.

I got to see this again ...
Yes, 2.35 was the aspect ratio for RealD.

The sound mix is probably different for IMAX because of the difference in presentation. I personally wouldn't know regarding IMAX so that's just a guess.
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I'm going to try and catch it this weekend but I don't want to deal with insane crowds. Has it been packed?
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin
Just got back from a 10:30 showing in 3D.

In-fucking-credible.

The 3D was so easy on the eyes for the entire running time. No eyestrain, no headaches, no need to rest or look away. It was subtle when it needed to be, and full of depth when it needed to be, all at the right moments. The 3D was just right. No gimmicks of any sort either. If something didn't need to 'pop' out, it didn't. It was a very intelligent 3D experience.

The image itself was crystal clear, textures and facial features were razor sharp and full of great detail. Nothing washed out so the colors were strong, and the image was completely natural. It didn't have any sort of 'digital' look about it in the slightest like other 3D films and trailers seem to have from time to time.

If I didn't know it was a post-conversion, I never would've guessed. It was appropriate in all the right places.

If this were a Blu-ray it would be an absolute hands-down reference title.

Image brightness has been a constant complaint for 3D, but the theater I was in did it justice. The image was nice and bright the entire time but not overblown. Everything was perfectly visible even in the darkest scenes such as portions of the opening underwater wreck sequence, the scene when Rose is frightened by the dimming lights and groans of the sinking ship, and later on when the ship's lights were fried.

The sound mix was exactly the same as you've heard it before, nothing tweaked.

The end credits were not revised, they are the same: The 3D credits appear without music after the film's original credits have ended.

I've lost count how many times I've seen Titanic, yet this time felt like the very first only I knew all the lines. This film belongs on the big screen. At home it just doesn't compare at all. I'll definitely be making a return trip to see it again. I wish I could see it in IMAX but there's no theater close enough that's showing it. The local IMAX theater by me doesn't have it.

Titanic is back, and I'm very happy to see it again. Like an old friend, but shiny and new. Score one for nostalgia.
Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.

The 3D was rendered with care. It convincingly transformed a 2D film into a 3D experience. I quite appreciated the work that went into it. Though, at the same time, it was almost incidental, too. I was grateful to have an opportunity to see a film I love on the big screen again. That was the magic for me.

I drank in every iconic image. I watched with intrigue something I don't think I noticed before, or at least don't remember: Lewis Bodine's tear-streaked face. The self-centered treasure hunters were all melting in light of Rose's story, but that part stood out to me this time. And Jack Dawson's exuberant "I'm the king of the world," popularly branded as cheesy, coupled with the swell of music at that moment, carried surprising power this time.

An extraordinary film. One I have always loved. Will definitely be going again.

--THX
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Saw it last night in IMAX 3D and loved it. The 3D was beautifully done. It's great to see these lavish epics on the big screen.
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin
The sound mix is probably different for IMAX because of the difference in presentation. I personally wouldn't know regarding IMAX so that's just a guess.
IMAX would be either a six-channel or eight-channel mix depending on the location whereas the digital presentation (Dolby Digital, RealD or XpanD) is a 5.1 (six-channel) mix.
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According to Roger Ebert, some scenes aren't even IN 3D...at least that's what he says in his review. He said he took his glasses off during scenes where he couldn't notice any depth and the picture looked like no 3D had been rendered.
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
According to Roger Ebert, some scenes aren't even IN 3D...at least that's what he says in his review. He said he took his glasses off during scenes where he couldn't notice any depth and the picture looked like no 3D had been rendered.

And?

Honestly, I don't care who Roger Ebert is or what he says. I tend to go by what I saw with my own two eyes along with everyone else who has seen this film themselves. Big Time Movie Critic or not, if people judge by their own eyes, that's what's most important.

Or to put it bluntly, boo-hoo for Mr. Ebert.

The man is already anti-3D anyway so his bias is obvious, and his claims that the film looked murky and lacked detail in 3D when he commented on it a while back were completely off-base, unless it was the theater he was in. In that case it's not the fault of the film. The presentation I saw, which I've already noted, was fantastic in every way.
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if Ebert wasn't impressed then why was his jaw dropped during the entire movie?
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if Ebert wasn't impressed then why was his jaw dropped during the entire movie?
Too soon?
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This was the best 3D convert I've seen. So much so that scenes seemed to have been filmed in 3D. There were a few times when it looked "flat", but those were bits where it made sense to look that way. Even 3D filmed movies have a flat bit here and there.
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Even 3D filmed movies have a flat bit here and there.
Watch Hugo or Step Up 3D and come back here to try and say that same, exact statement.
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
IMAX would be either a six-channel or eight-channel mix depending on the location whereas the digital presentation (Dolby Digital, RealD or XpanD) is a 5.1 (six-channel) mix.
I'm assuming the theatrical mix for Titanic is it's original 5.1 soundmix for both it's REAL-D (digital cinema) and IMAX presentations - I have not heard otherwise in terms of it getting remixed for this rerelease.
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Originally Posted by Giles
I'm assuming the theatrical mix for Titanic is it's original 5.1 soundmix for both it's REAL-D (digital cinema) and IMAX presentations - I have not heard otherwise in terms of it getting remixed for this rerelease.
That's why I mentioned in my "review" that it wasn't tweaked, but I didn't see IMAX so I don't know anything about their mixes other than what is answered about that here or other places. It sounded like the same mix I've heard all these years, only much bigger and more impressive in a genuine theater and not just at home.


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