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Numanoid 07-10-11 05:44 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by Pizza (Post 10848627)
For some reason it's harder for actresses to maintain long acting careers like guys.

Yes, "for some reason".

Rypro 525 07-10-11 05:50 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by AnonomusBob15 (Post 10848505)

Tom Cruise 90% of the time delivers a quality product, but people can't help but be more interested in someone's personal life. The new M:I film looks great, but it will underperform because people care about things that dont really concern them.

when i saw the MI4 trailer before transformers at midnight, alot of people actually cheered when Cruise showed up

PopcornTreeCt 07-10-11 05:50 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by Boba Fett (Post 10848755)
I don't think I can ever hate Cruise. The worst he did was act like a child over getting married and spout his religion/beliefs. I might not agree with it, but in the long run it's a lot better than the actors people continue to worship who get busted on DUIs, drug possessions and spousal abuse, not to mention affairs and bastard children.

Besides, anyone who hates Cruise for his "kooky" period, better not call themselves a Prince fan if that may be the case, because that man is guilty of every "social crime" Cruise is and more.

I don't like Cruise because of his personal life. I don't like Cruise because he's overhyped as a movie star that can barely act.

At least today's big movie stars like Depp, Clooney and Pitt can all act.

Rypro 525 07-10-11 05:54 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10848779)
I don't like Cruise because of his personal life. I don't like Cruise because he's overhyped as a movie star that can barely act.

At least today's big movie stars like Depp, Clooney and Pitt can all act.

Magnolia? Granted he played a kookie nutjob so he could of just been playing himself :lol: (although he was nominated for a best supporting actor oscar

Yeti4623 07-10-11 06:08 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 
I think Cruise is a better actor than Pitt. I alsi think he was great in Born on the Fourth of July, Magnolia and Collateral.

Mike86 07-10-11 06:09 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 
Truthfully aside from a few roles I've never been that fond of Tom Cruise either. I never really saw what the big deal about him was other than a few roles. I like him in the Mission: Impossible series, Born on the 4th of July, and Minority Report was good too. Eyes Wide Shut is weird but I don't mind it. Those aside though I'm not very big on him. I guess those 80s movies he was in like Top Gun, Days of Thunder, Risky Business, etc. have never really been my thing but I can sorta see why some might like them.

tellor 07-10-11 06:10 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10848779)
I don't like Cruise because of his personal life. I don't like Cruise because he's overhyped as a movie star that can barely act.

At least today's big movie stars like Depp, Clooney and Pitt can all act.

Clooney has charisma, but he is *not* a box office draw. His only major film successes over the last decade have been the OCEAN'S films and that is because of the ensemble casts.

Depp has become a one-trick pony.

Pitt is bland.

PopcornTreeCt 07-10-11 06:19 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 10848784)
Magnolia? Granted he played a kookie nutjob so he could of just been playing himself :lol: (although he was nominated for a best supporting actor oscar

I love his performance in Magnolia. But for every Magnolia or Born on the Fourth of July he has like 10 mediocre performances.

Drexl 07-10-11 07:07 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by Pizza (Post 10848627)
Nicole Kidman seems to be doing alright. I'm a little confused as to why Renée Zellweger has fallen off the map. For some reason it's harder for actresses to maintain long acting careers like guys.

Yes, that's true. Although, one actress that seems to be immune to this is 50 year-old Julianne Moore, who hasn't won an Oscar (but IMHO deserved a couple over the years). It helps if you're one of the very best.

Helen Hunt was a surprise. She went from an Oscar win, to two very successful movies in Cast Away and What Women Wants to, well, not much of substance after that. There are a couple of 3-year gaps in her filmography, so I assume she took time off to do other things (IMDB mentions theater and children). Some people just don't want to do film after film.

DJariya 07-10-11 07:14 PM

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How is taking a job on a network TV show a step down for some of these actors? I'm referencing the comment about Forest Whitaker and Zooey Deschanel.

It's a regular paycheck for 6-9 months a year as opposed to doing a feature film once every 2-3 years.

Look at Gary Sinise, he was a very respected character actor in alot of movies and took the lead role on CSI: NY and the show has been a success for 7 seasons. And noone talks shit about Sinise. He's making good money and working regularly.

Kiefer Sutherland actually became a much bigger star on TV with 24.

Alot of network TV shows are produced with almost feature film quality production value. Plus, alot of these TV stars still shoot movies during their summer breaks.

Michael Corvin 07-10-11 08:16 PM

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Yeah, tv doesnt have that old stigma anymore. There is plenty of great shows these days that could rival a lot of movies.


Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 10848839)
Helen Hunt was a surprise. She went from an Oscar win, to two very successful movies in Cast Away and What Women Wants to, well, not much of substance after that. There are a couple of 3-year gaps in her filmography, so I assume she took time off to do other things (IMDB mentions theater and children). Some people just don't want to do film after film.

One of those gaps was to write, direct, produce, etc. Her own pet project.

I love her though and would watch anything she's in.

Howie2000 07-10-11 08:31 PM

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Forrest Whitaker is living the dream.

He was a wonderful charecter actor for years who never got any recognition then gets a chance to shine in an Oscar Baity role like Last King Of Scotland and knocks it out the park. A short while after gets a boatload of money to be in a tv procedural where he can just go through the motions doing the same thig over and over for a few years and never have to worry about money ever again.

Howie2000 07-10-11 08:50 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10848736)

It's like Zooey Deschanel on that Fox show. Like why you wanna kill your career so fast? Stick to movies.

How is someone who mostly does supporting hot girlfriend or supporting adorable cute as a button girlfriend type roles taking a step down by being the lead of a network sitcom. I guess if the show tanks it could hurt her career but if its a hit it could lead to her being offered lead movie roles which to now have eluded her mostly.

DJariya 07-10-11 08:53 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by Howie2000 (Post 10848938)
How is someone who mostly does supporting hot girlfriend or supporting adorable cute as a button girlfriend type roles taking a step down by being the lead of a network sitcom. I guess if the show tanks it could hurt her career but if its a hit it could lead to her being offered lead movie roles which to now have eluded her mostly.

:thumbsup:

AnonomusBob15 07-10-11 09:22 PM

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Tom Cruise can act. Magnolia, Eyes Wide Shut, Minority Report, Collateral, Born on the 4th of July, Interview with the Vampire.......... He also produced Narc.

Plus, on top of those really good films in which he played very diverse characters, he's a bona-fide movie star. He's extremely courageous, which is something I find very admirable given his uber celebrity status. He started taking leaps and bounds with his career choices before we had the internet and could scrutinize every move everyone made. He takes his profession seriously.

I sound like a fanboy, but i've always defended Cruise. I remember extremely doubting The Last Samurai, thinking the premise was ridiculous. I was wrong and havn't pre-judged him since. Lions for Lambs was a let-down though, but not becuase of him. The pedigree looked excellent on paper.


People say Tom Cruise is Tom Cruise in every role, but I think that has more to do with their opinion of him than his actual character portrayal. He (at one time) was one of the biggest movie stars of all time, so it would have been difficult for anyone of that status to blend in unrecognizably with any character.

that's all I have to say about that.

PopcornTreeCt 07-10-11 09:27 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 10848844)
How is taking a job on a network TV show a step down for some of these actors? I'm referencing the comment about Forest Whitaker and Zooey Deschanel.

It's a regular paycheck for 6-9 months a year as opposed to doing a feature film once every 2-3 years.

Look at Gary Sinise, he was a very respected character actor in alot of movies and took the lead role on CSI: NY and the show has been a success for 7 seasons. And noone talks shit about Sinise. He's making good money and working regularly.

Kiefer Sutherland actually became a much bigger star on TV with 24.

Alot of network TV shows are produced with almost feature film quality production value. Plus, alot of these TV stars still shoot movies during their summer breaks.

I don't see how it could be seen as anything other then a step down. None of the actors named do a film once every 2-3 years, when they were active they were doing 2-3 films a year.

Sinise took CSI after it had been a success and far after he was still appearing in quality films. Sure, Kiefer lucked out but again he wasn't headlining films. And I like Sinise a lot, I'd like to see him back on the big screen with Hanks.

I don't mean to put down TV. I freaking love TV shows more now than I ever have but I don't expect to see movie stars on TV.

majorjoe23 07-10-11 09:29 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by kd5 (Post 10848769)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000221/

He's been in a lot of movies, a lot of TV shows, he's had a decent career.......until he turned nutjob. -kd5-

Decent career /= respected actor.

Howie2000 07-10-11 09:38 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10848982)
I don't see how it could be seen as anything other then a step down. None of the actors named do a film once every 2-3 years, when they were active they were doing 2-3 films a year.

Before 24 started in the year 2001 wasn't Kiefer Sutherland considered that dude from 80s movies .

Besides supporting parts in early 90s films Flatliners,A Few Good Men and that one movie where he was a killer or rapist or whatever with Sally Field in the mid 90s everything else he had done for a decade or longer was completely off peoples radars in the mainstream.

Drexl 07-10-11 09:39 PM

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Cruise may not be that respected, but how many actors can say they're worked with Stanley Kubrick, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola, and Steven Spielberg? And Paul Thomas Anderson, Ridley Scott, John Woo, Oliver Stone, and Michael Mann as well?

KnightLerxst 07-10-11 09:41 PM

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I've never understood the Tom Cruise hate. He scored a hot piece of ass...he's happy with his place in life and proud of it...and he still stars in entertaining films.

Hokeyboy 07-10-11 10:00 PM

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^^He doesn't follow a state-sanctioned religion, apparently. So people took this to mean he feels HIS God can beat up THEIR God. Or something.

Solid Snake 07-10-11 10:23 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by majorjoe23 (Post 10848985)
Decent career /= respected actor.

this. Sheen hasn't had the career of someone like..oh...Robert Duvall. That's a respected actor. Sheen isn't that. He's had a good financial career, sure. He ain't a great actor though....or at least has the career of one.


Originally Posted by Hokeyboy (Post 10849015)
^^He doesn't follow a state-sanctioned religion, apparently. So people took this to mean he feels HIS God can beat up THEIR God. Or something.

Yeah, I don't give a shit about wtf his personal life is but as an actor...he's had a solid career as one. He's a solid actor and also one who can financially work for the studios...for the most part.

Dragon Tattoo 07-10-11 10:40 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10848779)
I don't like Cruise because of his personal life. I don't like Cruise because he's overhyped as a movie star that can barely act.

At least today's big movie stars like Depp, Clooney and Pitt can all act.

You lost any semblance of an argument that you had when you said that Brad Pitt could act.

Rypro 525 07-10-11 10:45 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by AnonomusBob15 (Post 10848978)
He also produced Narc.

did he have a large part in creative w that, or was it an excuse to have a name be a "producer" when in fact they really had nothing to do with it

Rypro 525 07-10-11 10:48 PM

Re: Actors whose careers have fallen low and fast
 

Originally Posted by KnightLerxst (Post 10849000)
I've never understood the Tom Cruise hate. He scored a hot piece of ass...he's happy with his place in life and proud of it...and he still stars in entertaining films.

Nicole Kidman in her prime was a hot piece of ass...


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