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Old 04-23-11 | 03:09 AM
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

Originally Posted by Drexl
Of course, that was also the year they gave the Supporting Actress award to 11 year-old Anna Paquin.
Yes, but that was a surprise and was considered to be a fairly major upset (Winona Ryder was widely expected to win), whereas Jones was not a surprise or an upset choice. She also had the cuteness factor on her side, and I think we can agree that Fiennes didn't. There were no career achievement possibilities in Paquin's category either.

Plus, I'd argue that Paquin's competition was extremely weak and that she did in fact give the best performance in her category, whereas Fiennes may or may not have been the best in his very strong category:

Holly Hunter -- The Firm
Anna Paquin -- The Piano
Rosie Perez -- Fearless
Winona Ryder -- The Age of Innocence
Emma Thompson -- In the Name of the Father
Old 04-23-11 | 06:45 AM
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

Is it that difficult to type out "Schindler's List" instead of "SL?"
Old 04-23-11 | 07:40 AM
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

Originally Posted by KillerCannibal
Malkovich was robbed!
Ditto.
Old 04-23-11 | 08:39 AM
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

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Yes, but that was a surprise and was considered to be a fairly major upset (Winona Ryder was widely expected to win), whereas Jones was not a surprise or an upset choice. She also had the cuteness factor on her side, and I think we can agree that Fiennes didn't. There were no career achievement possibilities in Paquin's category either.

Plus, I'd argue that Paquin's competition was extremely weak and that she did in fact give the best performance in her category, whereas Fiennes may or may not have been the best in his very strong category:

Holly Hunter -- The Firm
Anna Paquin -- The Piano
Rosie Perez -- Fearless
Winona Ryder -- The Age of Innocence
Emma Thompson -- In the Name of the Father
Could you imagine being subjected to "From Oscar Winner Rosier Perez" for the past 20 years?
Old 04-23-11 | 08:49 AM
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

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Is it that difficult to type out "Schindler's List" instead of "SL?"
I'm getting a little weary of the invented acronyms for movies that require me to click into threads just to see what's being discussed.
Old 04-23-11 | 09:12 AM
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

Originally Posted by RoyalTea
Is it that difficult to type out "Schindler's List" instead of "SL?"
this coming from the guy that made poll out of that?
Old 04-23-11 | 09:36 AM
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC
this coming from the guy that made poll out of that?
Yes. Was I too subtle?
Old 04-23-11 | 01:35 PM
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

Originally Posted by Groucho
I'm getting a little weary of the invented acronyms for movies that require me to click into threads just to see what's being discussed.
Old 04-25-11 | 03:19 PM
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

It's because Fiennes is British, and they never seem to win Oscars. I wish the Academy weren't so anglophobic.
Old 04-25-11 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
Fiennes is very talented, but apparently not good at making friends in the industry and 'working the business' to get awards. He avoids things like that to concentrate on work. Those award shows are more popularity contests than about the work.
Well, there you go. If Ralph Fiennes doesn't care if he won or not, why should you??
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Originally Posted by Numanoid
Tommy Lee Jones was, like he always does, playing Tommy Lee Jones. Yawn.

He was the least of the lot that should have won.
That pretty much sums up every actor and I don't really have an issue with that. There's a skill and craft at creating your on-screen persona. Clint Eastwood, Robert DeNiro, Humphrey Bogart. Tommy Lee Jones was at his peak in The Fugitive and he nailed it. I love all five nominated performances so I'd be happy with any of them winning.
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

It was a tough pick from the 5, but I thought John Malkovich should have gotten it. But that's my opinion.
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

Malkovich was incredible in that film and elevated the entire movie with his performance.
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Malkovich and Fiennes were basically playing the same role. Sadistic pudgy jerks with a hard-on for sniper rifles.

Postlethwaite deserved it that year.
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

Originally Posted by NIMH Rat
Malkovich and Fiennes were basically playing the same role. Sadistic pudgy jerks with a hard-on for sniper rifles.
Yes, Malkovich's character spent the entire film building a sniper rifle to use as the tool for an assassination.

Both roles were essentially the same.

Good points, real insight there.

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Originally Posted by NIMH Rat
Malkovich and Fiennes were basically playing the same role.
This is very incorrect.
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

Originally Posted by NIMH Rat
Malkovich and Fiennes were basically playing the same role.
This is like saying Postlethwaite and DiCaprio played the same role, since they talked funny and had small living quarters with a long-haired immediate family member.
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

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For a while there 3-6 Mafia had more than Scorsese. What does this say about the Oscars? They've always been a big joke.
3-6 Mafia penned a well written song for an acclaimed film that was an essential part of said film. If I was a betting man I would say their win will be held in higher regard over time then Scorcese getting a lifetime achievement win for The Departed.
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

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3-6 Mafia penned a well written song for an acclaimed film that was an essential part of said film. If I was a betting man I would say their win will be held in higher regard over time then Scorcese getting a lifetime achievement win for The Departed.
problem is that nobody talks about 3-6 Mafia like they do Scorsese...also...who still talks about 3-6 Mafia?

and yes...that The Departed win was a lifetime thing...it was solid...just not top tier Scorsese...but his solid is still better than most top tier work from other directors.
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

Originally Posted by MoviePage

Holly Hunter -- The Firm
Rosie Perez -- Fearless
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Wow......just seeing Rosie Perez nominated for an Oscar makes my jaw drop. And Holly Hunter is a fine actress, but in the Firm she was utterly average. This really shows how poor a year it was for the Oscars.

As for TLJ winning over RF, well i thought he was good in the Fugitive....but not Oscar glory goodness. Its true what someone said about it basically all being a popularity contest on who can kiss ass the best in the industry.
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This is like saying Postlethwaite and DiCaprio played the same role, since they talked funny and had small living quarters with a long-haired immediate family member.
Exactly.
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

I agree Fiennes should have won, or Postlethwaite. Jones has given better performance particularly No Country For Old Men
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
'Schindler's List' was a decent film, not spectacular, and it rides on the reputation that Spielberg is supposedly a 'genius', and the subject matter of the holocaust. It's just not that great a film, and Spielberg is just not that great a director. He's a financially successful director and there's a huge difference.
One of the dumbest things I've ever read on any message board. And I've read a lot of dumb things.
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Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???

Originally Posted by Groucho
I'm getting a little weary of the invented acronyms for movies that require me to click into threads just to see what's being discussed.
Yeah, when I clicked this one I was thinking that "SL" stood for "Shakespeare in Love" because I mixed up the Fiennes brothers' first names (it was Joseph who was in that one) and thinking that "hey, that wasn't a great performance at all!"

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