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Old 03-14-11, 05:27 PM
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Re: Battle: Los Angeles (2011, Dir-Liebesman, Eckhart)

Originally Posted by Gunde
All of you guys who liked it, what did you think of Transformers 2?

Not trying to be a smart ass, just wondering if this is worth my time and (more importantly) my money.
I see what you're doing.
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http://www.deadline.com/2011/03/fx-a...x-no-1-movies/

If your too lazy to see this and won't pay to rent it either, it will be available free and edited for time on FX in early to mid-2013
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For the most part, I enjoyed the hell out of this. I do wish they had spent more time on the initial invasion and beach scenes. The reporter on the beach looked really familiar to me, which bugged me the whole time afterward.
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Re: Battle: Los Angeles (2011, Dir-Liebesman, Eckhart)

Originally Posted by dadaluholla
Hmm, went to see this with my gf yesterday and not quite sure why it's getting all the hate. I thought it was incredibly entertaining, and exceeded my expectations from the trailers. Just a fun popcorn munching action flick, and I will definitely be buying on Blu.
People hate it because we've seen it all before. There was nothing new to it. I don't mind them using the same stories over and over as long as they attempt to bring something new to the table. This movie just failed miserably. It wasn't entertaining in the slightest. It was so boring. Like someone that was interviewed in the Indymogul review said, they don't have any content so they cover it up with overused shaky camera work. Alien, which had the same kind of idea, was far better. Independence Day, again with the same idea, was also far better. They may not be the best movies in the world, but at least they were interesting. I'm not saying the movie was bad, but it was boring. Again, if you're going to make a movie with the same story that's been used a million times before, try to do with a little bit of originality. This just didn't do it for me.
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Re: Battle: Los Angeles (2011, Dir-Liebesman, Eckhart)

As I said in my post earlier, my only real problem with the movie was them failing to develop characters that I would care about & remember. Honestly, the only 2 characters that were somewhat memorable were Nantz and Santos. There were several key deaths of people who I could care less about. Bridget Moynahan from Blue Bloods was also in this flick and the previews made her character seem significant, but she did nothing for me story-wise. Any random movie extra could have played that part.

But, from an action & special effects perspective, I think the movie delivered enough of that to keep me entertained.
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Re: Battle: Los Angeles (2011, Dir-Liebesman, Eckhart)

Just saw this from Ebert.

@ebertchicago - Box office success of "Battle: Los Angeles" results in loss of millions of hours of human life, dumbing down of audiences.

3 minutes ago via SocialOomph
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Ebert is a bitter old man, twitter just magnifies this condition.
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Re: Battle: Los Angeles (2011, Dir-Liebesman, Eckhart)

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Ebert is a bitter old man, twitter just magnifies this condition.
Well he's right about Battle: Los Angeles.

It's a terrible film.
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Re: Battle: Los Angeles (2011, Dir-Liebesman, Eckhart)

Originally Posted by Spottedfeather
People hate it because we've seen it all before. There was nothing new to it.
Having seen it, I disagree.
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I actually thought the whole "how do we kill these aliens?" scene was pretty original. And I'm glad they solved the problem not with a virus that wiped out the whole race or by hacking into an alien computer, but by removing the air component of the battle and letting the soldiers fight it out on the ground. It ended at the "turning point" instead of the "victory."

I also appreciated how quickly things went from normal to totally effed up. Other movies make that initial invasion far too slow. And the whole movie stuck with the small crew, only depicting their viewpoint and their interactions with others. It didn't span the country like Independence Day did and made the movie feel more "real" to me.


It wasn't the greatest movie ever and a few times it went for melodrama it didn't need, but overall I enjoyed the outing.
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I really liked this movie. If you think that makes me an idiot, then you are a moron. How dare someone impose their opinion onto me as if were fact. I for one have never seen an alien invasion movie from the perspective of ground troops presented as a war movie (someone fill me in if there is one out there), and I thought it really delivered on it's premise. Ok, the dialogue wasn't oscar worthy, but we are talking about a squad of Marines in a war-torn LA; it's gonna be a lot of tactics talk.

Maybe I see things from a different perspective because I spent 6 years in the Army, but I didn't have any problems with the pro-Marine speeches and pep-talks. Sometime you say that stuff to hype yourself up in a crap situation.

Anyway, I had lots of fun with this movie and will buy this on blu- it'll be a helluva sound system workout.
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Just realized that my favorite shot from the trailer, the one of the drones flying against the backdrop of the setting sun, wasn't in the actual film. Either that or I missed it.
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Originally Posted by SuckaMC
I really liked this movie. If you think that makes me an idiot, then you are a moron. How dare someone impose their opinion onto me as if were fact.
No need to be defensive... If you liked it, great. Has anyone on here berated others for liking it?
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Re: Battle: Los Angeles (2011, Dir-Liebesman, Eckhart)

Originally Posted by JumpCutz
Well he's right about Battle: Los Angeles.

It's a terrible film.
Alright dude, you hated the movie. Do you have to keep coming back to rub it in that it sucks?
Old 03-14-11, 11:19 PM
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Re: Battle: Los Angeles (2011, Dir-Liebesman, Eckhart)

Originally Posted by Patman
Ebert is a bitter old man, twitter just magnifies this condition.
Yeah. I've said it many times before, when he came back from his illness, he seemed to love everything just because he was back to watching films. Now he's back to his large than life persona and letting his own personal biases often ruin things for people. He's often petty and not above blatantly spoiling a movie he dislikes.

I miss Siskel because Siskel would always call him on his crap and vice-versa. The two kept each other's egos relatively in check.
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Re: Battle: Los Angeles (2011, Dir-Liebesman, Eckhart)

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No need to be defensive... If you liked it, great. Has anyone on here berated others for liking it?
Bah, it's more directed at Ebert and those types (I was speaking in generalities) who think what they say is the fact and if you don't agree then you're stupid. That really irritates me. Opinions are just that. Some people tend to forget.
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Bah, it's more directed at Ebert and those types (I was speaking in generalities) who think what they say is the fact and if you don't agree then you're stupid. That really irritates me. Opinions are just that. Some people tend to forget.
Ah, ok. I do know what you mean, I've enjoyed movies that the majority seemingly disliked.
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Re: Battle: Los Angeles (2011, Dir-Liebesman, Eckhart)

Yeah Ebert is a terrible judge of film.



The fact that this steaming pile of stupidity is at 32% on RT with over 100 reviews in is pure coincidence.

Ebert's just a bitter man and a poor judge of film.

There are lousy films that I enjoy for various reasons, I just don't feel the need to bullshit myself or others about how lousy they are in the process of enjoying them. Apparently some of you feel differently about that.
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Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
Yeah Ebert is a terrible judge of film.



The fact that this steaming pile of stupidity is at 32% on RT with over 100 reviews in is pure coincidence.

Ebert's just a bitter man and a poor judge of film.

There are lousy films that I enjoy for various reasons, I just don't feel the need to bullshit myself or others about how lousy they are in the process of enjoying them. Apparently some of you feel differently about that.
I don't have a problem with calling a bad movie a bad movie. I have a problem with him insulting people who choose to see them. I have a problem with him declaring a movie bad and then choosing to spoil a key plot point or finale element just because he doesn't think people should see it.

I've reviewed more than a few piles of straight-to-DVD garbage for this site that I know has a fanbase. I've can't recall one time where I've went one step further and said anyone who might enjoy these films are idiots and lack brains. Ebert seems to take pride in casting judgment on a film and then looking down at anyone who doesn't see eye-to-eye with him as less intelligent.

Just remember the man responsible for all this behavior is the screenwriter of "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls"
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I was going to see this movie no matter what because, like I mentioned before, the trailer absolutely grabbed me and I couldn't wait until it actually came out. The very low rottentomatoes score scared me, but I was willing to overlook it because, at the time, the audience rating was like 85% or something. I was thinking that the snooty critics were just being bitter old men like Ebert and couldn't get past the fact that it was a fun, alien invasion movie. The audience rating is now at 66%. Personally I didn't find it fun at all and fell asleep constantly throughout it and when I was awake I just couldn't get past the utter ridiculousness of the plot points. This movie wasn't Transformers...it wasn't even Independence Day. It was trying to be serious maybe along the lines of Blackhawk Down. A gritty war movie but with aliens instead of Somalians. It completely failed as a serious war movie and it wasn't funny or interesting enough to be a popcorn flick like Transformers or even Independence Day.

I was at least surviving until the absolutely asinine ending.
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Originally Posted by Boba Fett
I don't have a problem with calling a bad movie a bad movie. I have a problem with him insulting people who choose to see them. I have a problem with him declaring a movie bad and then choosing to spoil a key plot point or finale element just because he doesn't think people should see it.

I've reviewed more than a few piles of straight-to-DVD garbage for this site that I know has a fanbase. I've can't recall one time where I've went one step further and said anyone who might enjoy these films are idiots and lack brains. Ebert seems to take pride in casting judgment on a film and then looking down at anyone who doesn't see eye-to-eye with him as less intelligent.

Just remember the man responsible for all this behavior is the screenwriter of "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls"

back when i was 12 years old and thought that van damme and Ahnold were the pinnacle of cinematography i also didn't like Ebert
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back when i was 12 years old and thought that van damme and Ahnold were the pinnacle of cinematography i also didn't like Ebert
Roger Deakins has nothing on Van Damme and Schwarzenegger!
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Originally Posted by al_bundy
back when i was 12 years old and thought that van damme and Ahnold were the pinnacle of cinematography i also didn't like Ebert
...i'm confused by your statement.
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Originally Posted by whoopdido
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Honestly, just watch Independence Day. It's basically exactly the same. Except they don't use a virus to bring down the aliens. Just one teeny missle does the trick.

But if you really want to know...aliens disguise their invasion as a meteor shower. The "meteors" that hit the Earth are actually invading alien forces. I can't remember for sure, but they attack at least 20 major cities worldwide. The human experts believe that the aliens are taking over Earth and irradicating the humans so they can take our water.

The humans absolutely get their asses kicked--Los Angeles is more or less completely taken out in the span of a day. It seems like the other major cities fates are similar to Los Angeles. The movie follows a group of marines whose mission is to get to a police station where civilians are and escort them to some kind of safe zone. Somehow they discover that the alien ships that are kicking their asses so bad aren't manned and are just drones that are being controlled by this massive control center underground. The 6 marines procede to find this control center (think of it as the Pentagon) which is inexplicably guarded by very few aliens and are able to blow a little bit of it up. The control center then rises from the ground and once it's above ground, ONE missle is shot at it and the entire thing blows up. After it blows up, the ships fall to the ground and are destroyed and the alien ground troops retreat.

We're then treated to a rip off of both Independence Day and Black Hawk Down as the marine commander says something like "instructions on how to bring down the ships are being relayed around the world and all the ships are going down". Like at the end of Independence Day when they discover that the ships can be taken out by blowing up their primary weapon and then all the ships over the other worldwide cities get destroyed because now everybody knows how to do it. The marines are then ordered to rest up, but since they're so tough they decide to resupply and head right back out again. Think of the end of Black Hawk Down when Eric Bana, rather than resting, decides to head right back out into the shit again.

In the middle there's some really crappy dialogue, but the main point of the human interest stuff is that Two Face is a Staff Sgt whose last mission didn't go well and many of his guys ended up getting killed. The current marines under him don't trust him, but in the end he decides to take out the alien control center by himself while his marines got to safety but his marines suddenly respected him and then decided to help him take down the control center.
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Re: Battle: Los Angeles (2011, Dir-Liebesman, Eckhart)

I enjoyed it, but yes, someone needs to learn to write better dialog. I was actually fine with the movie and bought into some of it until they decide to take out the command module by themselves. And I would have preferred no back story about the Marines and just get thrust into battle with them.
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Re: Battle: Los Angeles (2011, Dir-Liebesman, Eckhart)

Originally Posted by SuckaMC
Bah, it's more directed at Ebert and those types (I was speaking in generalities) who think what they say is the fact and if you don't agree then you're stupid. That really irritates me. Opinions are just that. Some people tend to forget.
Where does Ebert state that what he says is an undeniable fact and anyone who disagrees with him is stupid? People always throw that accusation out against critics, but it's usually unfounded.

I guess Ebert and other critics should begin every review (and tweet) with an explicitly stated "IN MY OPINION..."? I think that should, and does, go without saying.


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