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Old 08-06-10, 08:58 PM
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Re: Why 3-D is already dying

Originally Posted by Tsung
So enlighten me. What does that data mean?
That is what I've been trying to tell you. It means nothing. It is incomplete. Do you know, from that chart, on how many 3D screens Cats and Dogs opened, versus Toy Story 3? You assume (falsely) that they opened on the same number of 3D screens. I know for a fact that, at least at my local theater, Toy Story 3 opened on twice as many 3D screens as Cats and Dogs. I also know that Toy Story 3 was a far more anticipated film than Cats and Dogs.

The point is that there are many factors that determine both the dollar amount and percentage of an individual films 3D box office take, and that chart (and the accompanying article) blithely ignores all of them.
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I think regardless of whether or not you like 3D (and really, I have nothing against 3D), it is clear that if 3D as we know it is going to survive, it needs to evolve, and as many others have stated, it needs something on the scale of Avatar to help it survive, as there is no denying the movie did help to sell a lot of 3D movie tickets.
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That is what I've been trying to tell you. It means nothing. It is incomplete. Do you know, from that chart, on how many 3D screens Cats and Dogs opened, versus Toy Story 3? You assume (falsely) that they opened on the same number of 3D screens. I know for a fact that, at least at my local theater, Toy Story 3 opened on twice as many 3D screens as Cats and Dogs. I also know that Toy Story 3 was a far more anticipated film than Cats and Dogs.

The point is that there are many factors that determine both the dollar amount and percentage of an individual films 3D box office take, and that chart (and the accompanying article) blithely ignores all of them.
Fair enough RoboDad. I'll admit that the chart is incomplete. However, even based on what is on that chart, the combined opening weekend gross of the last three movies on that chart is still less than Toy Story 3, which can't be a good sign. Like I state before, 3D needs more "event movies" like Avatar to help it survive.
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Re: Why 3-D is already dying

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Fair enough RoboDad. I'll admit that the chart is incomplete. However, even based on what is on that chart, the combined opening weekend gross of the last three movies on that chart is still less than Toy Story 3, which can't be a good sign.
Opening gross is only part of the equation. For example, How to Train Your Dragon ultimately grossed more domestically than Clash of the Titans, despite having a smaller opening.


Like I state before, 3D needs more "event movies" like Avatar to help it survive.
3D doesn't need more Avatars to "survive" anymore than the film industry in general does. Avatar's box office was a freak occurance, on par with Titanic over a decade ago.

All that matters to studios and theater owners is whether 3D is profitable, and whether it's improving the profitability of the films. From all accounts, the answer so far is yes.

At worst, 3D will stop growing. However, theaters already have invested in 3D capable screens, and the cost and difficulty to studios for a 3D version of a pure-CGI film is minimal, so I highly doubt it will ever "die out" again like it had in the past.
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Hong Kong filmmakers shoot 'first' 3D porn film

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100808...20100808051130

HONG KONG (AFP) – A group of Hong Kong filmmakers have started shooting what they claim will be the world's first 3D pornographic film, a report said Sunday.

The 3.2 million-US-dollar '3-D Sex and Zen: Extreme Ecstasy', set for release in May, has already generated interest in a host of Asian film markets, as well as Europe and the US, the Sunday Morning Post reported.

Loosely based on a piece of classical Chinese erotic literature, The Carnal Prayer Mat, the movie will star Japanese adult actresses Yukiko Suo and Saori Hara, the Post said.

The film chronicles the story of a young man who, after being introduced to the erotic world of a duke, realises his ex-wife is the love of his life and features "orgies, swinging and some very graphic sex scenes", the paper said.

Producer Stephen Shiu acknowledged that censors would likely block the movie's screening in mainland China, a key market for Hong Kong filmmakers.

"(But) we are almost closing deals with some markets including Japan, Korea, Southeast Asia and some pay TV channels in Hong Kong," Shiu told the paper.

Italian director Tinto Brass has announced he would produce a 3D remake of his 1979 erotic film Caligula, while Hustler plans to release a pornographic spoof of 3D science fiction film Avatar, the top-grossing movie of all time which has earned some 2.7 billion US dollars worldwide since its release.
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Originally Posted by Trevor
Not just silly, but perhaps the most hilarious words that have ever been strung together in the history of writing.
How so?

Pretty much every single comic book movie is garbage in comparison to Avatar, with the sole exceptions being Nolans bat flicks. Thats already 75% of the blockbusters of the past decade. And yes Iron Man 2 was utter garbage on almost every conceivable level.

The only Blockbusters of the last decade that trump Avatar are the LOTR flicks, and Nolans Bat flicks. The first Pirates of the Caribbean is a fine runner up. Everything else is obviously inferior in pretty much every single aspect of filmmaking.

Things dont look any better in the future either. The leaked Thor footage was absolute garbage for one.

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I'm not enthused at all by 3D porn. Dodging 3D money shots (or 3D cubes if it's Japanese porn) doesn't sound like a fun time to me.
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I'm pretty sure there was 3-D porn back in the 1970s. I remember seeing THE STEWARDESSES, which was softcore, in 3-D back then.
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I'm not enthused at all by 3D porn. Dodging 3D money shots (or 3D cubes if it's Japanese porn) doesn't sound like a fun time to me.
Old 08-09-10, 04:47 PM
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Re: Why 3-D is already dying

Found this little gem today:
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2882&p=.htm
Step Up 3-D.. [made] an estimated $15.5 million on around 3,000 screens at 2,435 locations... Step Up 3-D had an exceptionally high 3D-to-2D screen ratio, and its 3D presentations accounted for 81 percent of its [opening weekend] business.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2879&p=.htm
Step Up 3-D's release includes 1,826 theaters presenting the movie in 3D. While far from a record 3D launch, it has an extremely high 3D-to-2D ratio.
So, Step up 3D made $13.02 on 3D, with 81% of the business.
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Re: Why 3-D is already dying

Good article from Slate. A little techy/wordy, but provides some worthy insight into the current craze:

http://www.slate.com/id/2264927
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Re: Why 3-D is already dying

Originally Posted by Jay G.
Found this little gem today:
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2882&p=.htm


http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2879&p=.htm


So, Step up 3D made $13.02 on 3D, with 81% of the business.
In terms of both Step Up and Piranha, Disney and the Weinsteins made sure that a majority of the locations were 3-D only. Piranha is only playing in 2D on about two-to-three screens in Vegas total where everywhere else it's 3D only. Same happened for Step Up.

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