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Old 07-03-10 | 10:50 PM
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Re: Predator vs. Die Hard..which is better?

gotta go with Die Hard.
Just a little too much homo-erotic subtext in Predator for me.
Old 07-03-10 | 10:56 PM
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Re: Predator vs. Die Hard..which is better?

Seems like there are a hell of a lot of non-posting Die Hard voters here.

I vote Die Hard, by a mile. And not just because I nailed a girl that I'd been lusting after for five years right after we saw it in the theater.

Die Hard really made the modern action movie. How many action movies that came after were referred to as "Die Hard on a ____"? No one ever referred to a movie as "Predator on a _____".
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....and that's a good thing. You couldn't copy Predator all that well without immediately be labeled as a rip-off. W/ DH though...different location change the plot a bit and bam..it's easier to hide. You can't do that w/ predator. It's premise is rather condensed. You can't have another film w/ commandoes or whatever hunted by an alien and not get red flagged. DH's premise..yeah...it had more room to rip off on. That's why Predator is still fucking fresh.

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Old 07-03-10 | 11:06 PM
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Re: Predator vs. Die Hard..which is better?

Originally Posted by Numanoid;1024705

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made[/i] the modern action movie. How many action movies that came after were referred to as "Die Hard on a ____"?
Maybe three? "Die Hard on a train/plane/boat".

I do recall those types of quotes but I can't remember what movies they were referring to.

Good point though.
Old 07-03-10 | 11:09 PM
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Under Seige and Executive Decision used that quote. Both decent films.
Old 07-03-10 | 11:30 PM
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Die Hard all the way!
Old 07-03-10 | 11:43 PM
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I can stand it. I love DH. BUT...it's a bit...how do I say this? Average visually in a sense. It's in a damn building in the 80s. Clothes and hair..80s. 80s doesn't age well visually. faceless goons galore. I never cared for Argyle. I DID like Carl Winslow's relationship w/ McClane...that was smart. The ending is kind of weird...I didn't need for Carl Winslow to redeem himself. I trusted him completely and appreciated his presence. It did kind of get preachy. Also the whole villain not yet did...that's cliche. LOVE the flick but...it does has it's flaws. Out of all it's little annoying flaws..it all doesn't hurt the character of John McClane which makes you like it all the more.
Both films make the most of their surroundings. In Predator, the jungle camouflages the creature, causing confusion because he can be anywhere. In Die Hard, the building is a contained space, which ups the tension because McClane could be discovered at any time. Calling Die Hard visually uninteresting is silly. I mean, hell, they recreate Frank Lloyd Wright's Fallingwater on the floor where the party is taking place. And how many people still see that building and think immediately of Nakatomi Plaza?

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Die Hard really made the modern action movie. How many action movies that came after were referred to as "Die Hard on a ____"? No one ever referred to a movie as "Predator on a _____".
That's because Predator was Alien in a jungle.
Old 07-04-10 | 12:02 AM
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Re: Predator vs. Die Hard..which is better?

Die Hard. Nothing really to think about. Predator is good. Die Hard is mother'fuckin' Die Hard.

Die Hard 3 is almost better.
Old 07-04-10 | 05:58 AM
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Re: Predator vs. Die Hard..which is better?

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Die Hard. Nothing really to think about. Predator is good. Die Hard is mother'fuckin' Die Hard.
Exactly.

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Die Hard 3 is almost better.
No fucking way.
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That's because Predator was Alien in a jungle.
Good one.
Old 07-04-10 | 12:27 PM
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Re: Predator vs. Die Hard..which is better?

Cliffhanger was Die Hard on a mountain

Passenger 57 was, like Executive Decision, Die Hard on a plane

Under Siege was Die Hard on a boat; Under Siege 2 was Die Hard on a train
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Die Hard is just "The Detective" in a skyscraper.



Roderick Thorp later wrote a sequel to The Detective called Nothing Lasts Forever, in which Leland is trapped in a Klaxon Oil Corporation skyscraper after it's taken by German terrorists and must rescue his daughter and grandchildren. Twenty years later the novel was filmed with some changes: the daughter became his wife, Klaxon became the Nakatomi Corporation and Joe Leland's name was changed to John McClane. The film was released under the title Die Hard (1988) by the same studio as this film (20th Century Fox).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Detective_(1968_film)
Old 07-04-10 | 01:02 PM
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Yeah 'Die Hard' is a masterpiece in the vein of 'Transformers 2'.

Only 'Transformers 2' didn't insult the intelligence of the audience as much, and the caricatures in it were less obnoxious and transparent.
Old 07-04-10 | 02:01 PM
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Very easy choice. Die Hard by a mile.
Old 07-04-10 | 03:38 PM
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Re: Predator vs. Die Hard..which is better?

Die Hard. Just a much better movie, period.
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Originally Posted by JumpCutz
Die Hard is just "The Detective" in a skyscraper.



Roderick Thorp later wrote a sequel to The Detective called Nothing Lasts Forever, in which Leland is trapped in a Klaxon Oil Corporation skyscraper after it's taken by German terrorists and must rescue his daughter and grandchildren. Twenty years later the novel was filmed with some changes: the daughter became his wife, Klaxon became the Nakatomi Corporation and Joe Leland's name was changed to John McClane. The film was released under the title Die Hard (1988) by the same studio as this film (20th Century Fox).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Detective_(1968_film)
You had to go to Wikipedia to find out something that's acknowledged in the opening credits of Die Hard?

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Yeah 'Die Hard' is a masterpiece in the vein of 'Transformers 2'.

Only 'Transformers 2' didn't insult the intelligence of the audience as much, and the caricatures in it were less obnoxious and transparent.
Is it Opposite Day today?

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Old 07-04-10 | 03:49 PM
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Re: Predator vs. Die Hard..which is better?

Die Hard. I like Predator quite a lot but even when I saw it in the theatre at age 16 or whatever I knew it was a big hunk of cheeseball. Tasty cheese, but cheese anyway, it definitely doesn't match up to Die Hard.
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Re: Predator vs. Die Hard..which is better?

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You had to go to Wikipedia to find out something that's acknowledged in the opening credits of Die Hard?
I sure did.

I don't like Die Hard... saw it once and I guess it didn't leave much of an impression.
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I sure did.

I don't like Die Hard... saw it once and I guess it didn't leave much of an impression.
Ah, okay. No biggie that you didn't like it. I just thought it was common knowledge that the first two movies are based on two totally unrelated novels (Nothing Lasts Forever by Roderick Thorp and 58 Minutes by Walter Wager), the third was based on a spec script by Jonathan Hensleigh called Simon Says, and that the fourth movie was based on a Wired article by John Carlin called A Farewell to Arms.

But then I am a Die Hard nerd.
Old 07-04-10 | 04:40 PM
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I chose Predator, which I like a bit more, although both are 80s classics. Predator has a great setup as it begins as a typical military action movie and quickly evolves into a sci-fi slasher movie. And of course, features the famous revealing of the Predator face at the very end. The sequence where Mac unloads with the Minigun and then everyone else starts blasting away is one of the most awesome action scenes ever. A perfect mix of action/sci-fi/horror.
Old 07-04-10 | 05:13 PM
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The 80s really were the golden age of action movies.
Maybe it's the old man in me, but I find even throwaway stuff like Action Jackson and Cobra was better shot, edited and executed than today's action movies.
At least you could actually tell what's happening in the fight scenes. Unlike the modern era of jump cutting everything to shit
Old 07-04-10 | 07:30 PM
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well here in the US they have that issue more so. Hong Kong on the other hand...loves to show their action for the most part. Man..I miss younger Jackie Chan and others.
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Originally Posted by davidh777
Cliffhanger was Die Hard on a mountain

Passenger 57 was, like Executive Decision, Die Hard on a plane

Under Siege was Die Hard on a boat; Under Siege 2 was Die Hard on a train
This. I love them both like my first born children. But Die Hard is just 'THE' action movie for me. It has everything, and John McClane is one of my all-time favorite film characters.
Old 07-04-10 | 11:45 PM
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Re: Predator vs. Die Hard..which is better?

Both rank up there as my favorite action movies, but I have to give the edge to Die Hard. Just about as good as an action movie can get. Alan Rickman owned this movie as a villain. Even though Solid Snake Pac disagrees, I still love when
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Powell shoots Karl at the end of the movie.

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