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OldBoy 04-14-10 10:09 PM

Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
I know some people have already seen it and given thoughts in the other, but thought a dedicated thread for reviews wouldn't be a bad idea. Looking forward to my first one in theaters this year.

Please continue pre-hype discussion Here.

Movie:
"Kick-Ass" (2010) (Starring Aaron Johnson, Clark Duke, Chloλ Grace Moretz, Lyndsy Fonseca, Christopher Mintz-Plasse, Nicolas Cage)

Release Date:
4/16/2010

Rating:
R (for strong brutal violence throughout, pervasive language, sexual content, nudity and some drug use - some involving children)

Running Time:
117 min. (1h. 57m.)

Rotten Tomatoes:
Fresh:145 Rotten:41 (78% as of 4/18/10)
RT Link...

Info:
IMDb Link...

Trailer:
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Poster Art:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ackground2.jpg

OldBoy 04-15-10 09:24 AM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
:1star: by Ebert. eh, not his type of mvie.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...IEWS/100419986

Spoiler:
Shall I have feelings, or should I pretend to be cool? Will I seem hopelessly square if I find “Kick-Ass” morally reprehensible and will I appear to have missed the point? Let's say you're a big fan of the original comic book, and you think the movie does it justice. You know what? You inhabit a world I am so very not interested in. A movie camera makes a record of whatever is placed in front of it, and in this case, it shows deadly carnage dished out by an 11-year-old girl, after which an adult man brutally hammers her to within an inch of her life. Blood everywhere. Now tell me all about the context.

The movie's premise is that ordinary people, including a high school kid, the 11-year-old and her father, try to become superheroes in order to punish evil men. The flaw in this premise is that the little girl does become a superhero. In one scene, she faces a hallway jammed with heavily armed gangsters and shoots, stabs and kicks them all to death, while flying through the air with such power, it's enough to make Jackie Chan take out an AARP membership.

This isn't comic violence. These men, and many others in the film, are really stone-cold dead. And the 11-year-old apparently experiences no emotions about this. Many children that age would be, I dunno, affected somehow, don't you think, after killing eight or 12 men who were trying to kill her?

I know, I know. This is a satire. But a satire of what? The movie's rated R, which means in this case that it's doubly attractive to anyone under 17. I'm not too worried about 16-year-olds here. I'm thinking of 6-year-olds. There are characters here with walls covered in carefully mounted firearms, ranging from handguns through automatic weapons to bazookas. At the end, when the villain deliciously anticipates blowing a bullet hole in the child's head, he is prevented only because her friend, in the nick of time, shoots him with bazooka shell at 10-foot range and blows him through a skyscraper window and across several city blocks of sky in a projectile of blood, flame and smoke. As I often read on the Internet: Hahahahaha.

The little girl is named Mindy (Chloe Grace Moretz). She adopts the persona of Hit Girl. She has been trained by her father, Big Daddy (Nicolas Cage), to join him in the battle against a crime boss (Mark Strong). Her training includes being shot at point-blank range while wearing a bulletproof vest. She also masters the martial arts — more, I would say, than any other movie martial artist of any age I can recall. She's gifted with deadly knife-throwing; a foot-long knife was presented to her by Dad as, I guess, a graduation present.

Big Daddy and Mindy never have a chat about, you know, stuff like how when you kill people, they are really dead. This movie regards human beings like video-game targets. Kill one, and you score. They're dead, you win. When kids in the age range of this movie's home video audience are shooting one another every day in America, that kind of stops being funny.

Hit Girl teams up with Kick-Ass (Aaron Johnson), the film's narrator, a lackluster high school kid who lives vicariously through comic books. For reasons tedious to explain, he orders a masked costume by mail order and sets about trying to behave as a superhero, which doesn't work out well. He lacks the training of a Big Daddy. But as he and Hit Girl find themselves fighting side by side, he turns into a quick learner. Also, you don't need to be great at hand-to-hand combat if you can just shoot people dead.

The early scenes give promise of an entirely different comedy. Aaron Johnson has a certain anti-charm, his problems in high school are engaging, and so on. A little later, I reflected that possibly only Nic Cage could seem to shoot a small girl point-blank and make it, well, funny. Say what you will about her character, but Chloe Grace Moretz has presence and appeal. Then the movie moved into dark, dark territory, and I grew sad.

Matthew Chmiel 04-15-10 12:45 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
I love Ebert, but I disagree with all of his comments on the movie. :thmbsdwn:

I saw Kick-Ass over a month ago at ShoWest and I had a fucking blast with it. I posted all my thoughts in the original, initial Kick-Ass thread in the Movie Talk section; but so far it ranks as the best film I've seen so far in 2010. Can't wait to see what Vaughn's fourth outing is.

Dr. DVD 04-15-10 12:47 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
You might want to spoilerize some of that Ebert review. Some people might come in here to read reviews before seeing the movie and not want to know outcomes for certain characters. Maybe just warn of spoilers in the thread title.

Osiris3657 04-15-10 12:52 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
Anybody else have theaters debuting this tonight? One of the theaters close to me has a showing at 9:00pm tonight :) I'll be there.

OldBoy 04-15-10 12:53 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 10107067)
You might want to spoilerize some of that Ebert review. Some people might come in here to read reviews before seeing the movie and not want to know outcomes for certain characters. Maybe just warn of spoilers in the thread title.

good point. didn't realize. sorry bout that.

Big Worms 04-15-10 01:39 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 10107081)
Anybody else have theaters debuting this tonight? One of the theaters close to me has a showing at 9:00pm tonight :) I'll be there.

My local one is a 10pm. Really thinking of going. Past my bedtime though for a school night. :D

fumanstan 04-15-10 02:09 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 10107081)
Anybody else have theaters debuting this tonight? One of the theaters close to me has a showing at 9:00pm tonight :) I'll be there.

There's a couple here, trying to see if I can get people to go with me.

Solid Snake 04-15-10 03:13 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
Ditto. cinemark is doing that too here in Denton.

Patman 04-15-10 03:28 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
Is it in 3D?

freshticles 04-15-10 03:41 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by scott1598 (Post 10106625)
:1star: by Ebert. eh, not his type of mvie.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...IEWS/100419986

Spoiler:
Shall I have feelings, or should I pretend to be cool? Will I seem hopelessly square if I find “Kick-Ass” morally reprehensible and will I appear to have missed the point? Let's say you're a big fan of the original comic book, and you think the movie does it justice. You know what? You inhabit a world I am so very not interested in. A movie camera makes a record of whatever is placed in front of it, and in this case, it shows deadly carnage dished out by an 11-year-old girl, after which an adult man brutally hammers her to within an inch of her life. Blood everywhere. Now tell me all about the context.

The movie's premise is that ordinary people, including a high school kid, the 11-year-old and her father, try to become superheroes in order to punish evil men. The flaw in this premise is that the little girl does become a superhero. In one scene, she faces a hallway jammed with heavily armed gangsters and shoots, stabs and kicks them all to death, while flying through the air with such power, it's enough to make Jackie Chan take out an AARP membership.

This isn't comic violence. These men, and many others in the film, are really stone-cold dead. And the 11-year-old apparently experiences no emotions about this. Many children that age would be, I dunno, affected somehow, don't you think, after killing eight or 12 men who were trying to kill her?

I know, I know. This is a satire. But a satire of what? The movie's rated R, which means in this case that it's doubly attractive to anyone under 17. I'm not too worried about 16-year-olds here. I'm thinking of 6-year-olds. There are characters here with walls covered in carefully mounted firearms, ranging from handguns through automatic weapons to bazookas. At the end, when the villain deliciously anticipates blowing a bullet hole in the child's head, he is prevented only because her friend, in the nick of time, shoots him with bazooka shell at 10-foot range and blows him through a skyscraper window and across several city blocks of sky in a projectile of blood, flame and smoke. As I often read on the Internet: Hahahahaha.

The little girl is named Mindy (Chloe Grace Moretz). She adopts the persona of Hit Girl. She has been trained by her father, Big Daddy (Nicolas Cage), to join him in the battle against a crime boss (Mark Strong). Her training includes being shot at point-blank range while wearing a bulletproof vest. She also masters the martial arts — more, I would say, than any other movie martial artist of any age I can recall. She's gifted with deadly knife-throwing; a foot-long knife was presented to her by Dad as, I guess, a graduation present.

Big Daddy and Mindy never have a chat about, you know, stuff like how when you kill people, they are really dead. This movie regards human beings like video-game targets. Kill one, and you score. They're dead, you win. When kids in the age range of this movie's home video audience are shooting one another every day in America, that kind of stops being funny.

Hit Girl teams up with Kick-Ass (Aaron Johnson), the film's narrator, a lackluster high school kid who lives vicariously through comic books. For reasons tedious to explain, he orders a masked costume by mail order and sets about trying to behave as a superhero, which doesn't work out well. He lacks the training of a Big Daddy. But as he and Hit Girl find themselves fighting side by side, he turns into a quick learner. Also, you don't need to be great at hand-to-hand combat if you can just shoot people dead.

The early scenes give promise of an entirely different comedy. Aaron Johnson has a certain anti-charm, his problems in high school are engaging, and so on. A little later, I reflected that possibly only Nic Cage could seem to shoot a small girl point-blank and make it, well, funny. Say what you will about her character, but Chloe Grace Moretz has presence and appeal. Then the movie moved into dark, dark territory, and I grew sad.

Funny view, coming from the guy who wrote "Beyond the Valley Of The Dolls'

tylergfoster 04-15-10 04:22 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Patman (Post 10107375)
Is it in 3D?

No.

Talk reviews are in:
Me (****): http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/43144/kick-ass/
Jamie S. Rich (***1/2): http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/43184/kick-ass/
David Walker (***): http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/43199/kick-ass/
Brian Orndorf (**1/2): http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/43208/kick-ass/

Dr. DVD 04-15-10 04:28 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
That Orndorf guy. Always there to offer the counter opinion. ;)

tylergfoster 04-15-10 04:29 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 10107475)
That Orndorf guy. Always there to offer the counter opinion. ;)

Hey, at least this is a sliding scale! It's not WALL-E, anyway.

PopcornBandit 04-15-10 04:32 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 10107081)
Anybody else have theaters debuting this tonight? One of the theaters close to me has a showing at 9:00pm tonight :) I'll be there.

My local theater is having a 10PM and a 12:01AM showing. My friend and I are going to the 12:01 showing because we figured the earlier showing would be more crowded.

Anyway, I absolutely cannot wait. The comic is amazing and if the movie is half as good it will still be great.

Osiris3657 04-15-10 08:53 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
I'm kinda hoping nobody notices that there are showings earlier than 12:01 haha. I can't remember the last time a film was released like this.

Supermallet 04-15-10 09:15 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
Clash of the Titans also had 10 PM shows. Transformers 1 and 2 had 7 PM showings the night before, IIRC. So did This Is It.

fumanstan 04-15-10 09:27 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
I'm planning on going to a 10 PM show. Hope its not crowded.

ScissorPuppy 04-15-10 11:05 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
Rating:
R (for strong brutal violence throughout, pervasive language, sexual content, nudity and some drug use - some involving children)

Can someone who has seen this film elaborate on the sex/nudity in the film? My 15 year old brother in law wants me to take him to see this, his parents are usually cool with him watching violence and hearing curse words. But I want to have a better idea on what to expect in the sex/nudity department before I get myself in trouble with his folks.

Thanks

Giantrobo 04-15-10 11:27 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
I wanna go to the 10 or the 12a show tonight but I don't feel like standing in line....

Patman 04-15-10 11:40 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
There was no line, and the crowd was sparse in my area.

Dr. DVD 04-15-10 11:49 PM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
Saw it. My theater was about half-full, but they were very into the movie.

I have to say that in terms of action Kick Ass kicked ass! The scenes with Hit Girl were very well choreographed. I also have to say that the movie, while billed as a comedy, is more of a serious action comic book style nature with some comedic elements. In short, I feel it's being misrepresented in the previews. The comedy it has is good, but the superhero story works just as well, if not better, without it. In fact, that was my only problem with the movie. It seemed to like teeter tottering between serious and slapstick, and gave off somewhat of a schizo vibe at times.

Did anyone else feel that while Kick Ass was the main character, the emotional focus of the story seemed to be on Hitgirl? Maybe because that character stole the show so much is why it felt more like her movie, but that's my opinion. I look forward to reading what others have to say about this one, as I am sure it will have some polarized opinions.

Patman 04-16-10 12:10 AM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
My 2 word review: Fairly Mediocre.

The character of Kick-Ass ends up being Dave, a teenager with a hyper-sense of heroism (due to reading lots and lots of comic books) and over-active imagination that fuels a need to right wrongs he sees in real life. His unintentionally thoughtless heroics are captured on a camera-phone, and the footage spurs interest and confusion over who is responsible for disrupting the drug operations of Frank. The confusion is justified as the other vigilantes, Big Daddy and Hit Girl, are the ones really doing a number on Frank's operations and provokes Frank into hunting down Kick-Ass. Frank's son, Chris, gets into the fray when he offers up a play to draw out Kick-Ass. Eventually BD and HG's roles in disrupting Frank's operations comes to light.

I can't count how many times I thought to myself that movie was pretty terrible in execution, in script, in concept during its running time. It's just such a flatline of a film, though it tries to jump-start many scenes with various musical score and cues or over-the-top violence, or even lame dialogue and lamer use of profanity (simply pointless and dumb), but it was simply ineffective because the direction is lazy and boring, and the story sputters and never really finds its footing.

With an overlong and inept first 2/3 of the film, even the final 1/3 of the film with some sequences featuring Hit Girl and Kick-Ass doesn't quite salvage this film for me, as I found it virtually impossible to suspend my disbelief over what was happening on the screen. Others may enjoy it, but ultimately, I remained unimpressed. Tonally, the film was bit on the schizo side, not quite knowing whether to play it for real, or for surreal or even fantastical, even though it tried desperately to "keep it real" in terms of abilities and skills, in the end, it succumbs to even lazier plot cliches to keep the "heroes" from assuming room temperature prematurely.

I give it 2 stars, or a grade of C.

Zen Peckinpah 04-16-10 12:23 AM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by ScissorPuppy (Post 10108051)
Rating:
R (for strong brutal violence throughout, pervasive language, sexual content, nudity and some drug use - some involving children)

Can someone who has seen this film elaborate on the sex/nudity in the film? My 15 year old brother in law wants me to take him to see this, his parents are usually cool with him watching violence and hearing curse words. But I want to have a better idea on what to expect in the sex/nudity department before I get myself in trouble with his folks.

Thanks

He'll LOVE it. The sex is mild, and the nudity is limited to a quick shot of native Africans on a computer screen.

This movie rocked. Has potential to be this decade's Fight Club in terms of divided opinions and its brilliant postmodernism. Also,
Spoiler:
any movie that pays homage to Death Wish 3 automatically wins in my book.

Osiris3657 04-16-10 12:35 AM

Re: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010) — The Reviews Thread
 
Just got back from a showing, there were maybe 50 people in attendance in a 400-500 seat theater.

Anyway with the insane hype this movie has I expected it to end up being the greatest movie of all-time. Was it? Not even close, BUT it was awesome and one of the best movies of the year so far. If I were to grade it I'd give it an A-
One of the things I didn't like was that the first half of the film attempted to be semi-plausible, but in the end it's as over the top as any other movie based on a comic (let me reiterate that I thought it was a blast and very entertaining).
Loved all the characters, it was funny, the action was top notch. All in all I had a great time but just wish I had toned down my expectations a bit.


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