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MartinBlank 04-10-10 10:20 PM

What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
Just threw in the "new" Bad Lieutenant and caught the trailer for Double Identity/Fake Idendity...

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ELECTRICITY FTW! :lol:

I've noticed over the past few months he's showing up in tons of direct-to-video crap-looking releases...what the hell happened to the guy?!? Maybe I give him too much credit after his role as Jim Morrison or seeing him in Heat, I don't know.

Fist of Doom 04-10-10 10:27 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
He's a working actor. Not everybody can have George Clooney's career. :shrug:

Drexl 04-10-10 10:34 PM

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Troy Stiffler 04-10-10 10:38 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
I just looked at his filmography on Wikipedia. Looks like he's in one or two good movies per year. Not too shabby.

From the looks of it, he works a lot with indie companies. Actors that work for a reasonable fee and take roles in smaller movies. I like that. You never know which movies will and won't 'work' and be sold off and become big hits. The leftovers end up 'direct to dvd'.

RagingBull80 04-10-10 10:42 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
I thought he was great in Bad Lieutenant: Port of call New Orleans.

Of course he'll always be Chris Knight/Shiherlis to me.

Larry C. 04-10-10 10:43 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
He got really fat for awhile.

And looks like the guy from the Hangover

http://www.tvjab.com/wp-content/uplo...003-guwryr.jpg

Cardsfan111 04-10-10 10:45 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
Oh no...someone will remember that Kilmer was once Batman. Next thing you know, Dark Knight threads will be all over the place. :doh:

Perkinsun Dzees 04-10-10 10:46 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
I heard a rumor that Annabella Sciorra got him hooked on heroin.

Idioteque... 04-10-10 10:48 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 

Originally Posted by cardsfan111 (Post 10098843)
Oh no...someone will remember that Kilmer was once Batman. Next thing you know, Dark Knight threads will be all over the place. :doh:

I think that's what happened to him LOL.

And btw he's also in Bad Lieutenant haha. Him and Ray Liotta are so washed up now.

RagingBull80 04-10-10 10:49 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
Hang on a second... I'll wake him and ask him...

Larry C. 04-10-10 10:51 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
The NEW Dark Knight:

http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/m...iser/18995.jpg

toddly6666 04-10-10 11:16 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
He was just filming The Saint 2 ... until he ate everyone.

dsa_shea 04-10-10 11:54 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 

Originally Posted by Larry C. (Post 10098838)
He got really fat for awhile.

And lloks like the guy from the Hangover

http://www.tvjab.com/wp-content/uplo...003-guwryr.jpg

The Snuggler! He'll snuggle you back to health.

stingermck 04-11-10 01:07 AM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
From what I read he had trouble loosing the weight from Alexander. But like Troy said, he does work for a lot of indie companies, with a studio pic thrown in here and there. I still enjoy him as an actor, even though he may not be considered A list anymore.

Films like Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang give him a forever pass from me.

Thrush 04-11-10 01:47 AM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
Odd bit of trivia. 50 cent gave Val Kilmer a car worth 100k. Apparently they are really good friends.

Gunde 04-11-10 05:29 AM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
Val Kilmer always was and still is awesome!

K&AJones 04-11-10 09:37 AM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
When it comes to Val I think of two movies...Real Genius and The Doors

http://www.thewildchildren.com/wp-co...070420_ssh.jpg

riotinmyskull 04-11-10 09:48 AM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
no love for TOMBSTONE or WILLOW or even TOP GUN?

TomOpus 04-11-10 10:03 AM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
Or Top Secret!

http://i40.tinypic.com/mmbpxh.jpg
"It's like we're in some bad DVDTalk thread"

Dr Mabuse 04-11-10 10:39 AM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 

Originally Posted by Perkinsun Dzees (Post 10098844)
I heard a rumor that Annabella Sciorra got him hooked on heroin.

:lol:

Torchur317 04-11-10 10:43 AM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 

Originally Posted by Gunde (Post 10099072)
Val Kilmer always was and still is awesome!

I agree, I'm surprised so many people are trashing him in this thread.

lizard 04-11-10 11:02 AM

I saw him in a live performance of a Shakespeare play in the '80s and remember him being a pretty solid actor. Haven't seen anything he's been in lately though.

Troy Stiffler 04-11-10 11:58 AM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
Not enough people saw Spartan. I recommend it, if you're renting Netflix - or just want to take a chance buying it for $10-or-so.

Ropes Pierre 04-11-10 11:58 AM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
I thought i read something about him trying to get the film industry going in New Mexico or Arizona. He owns a giant ranch, like the Ponderosa, hangs out there and occasionally makes movies to keep some money coming in.

"How did the respected Kilmer get involved in something this preposterous? Community ties. Kilmer has lived on a ranch near Santa Fe since 1983, and acts as an advisor to the New Mexico Film Investment Program. His commitment to that program has stimulated an increase in the state's annual production revenue, from $3 million in 2002 to $117 million in 2006. He has shown a willingness to do what is necessary to bring film projects to his state, and that includes lending his own name to appropriate projects. In this case, he not only lent his acting talents, but also provided the sprawling 6000 acres of his ranch for location shots."

I liked him in Spartan and Kiss Kiss, loved his aping of Morrison, so he can get as fat as he wants and hang out with Pierce Brosnon and compare bellies for all i care.

andy434343 04-11-10 12:07 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
I really liked his performance in "Wonderland" as well, he played John Holmes very well, although I have no real basis to tell how accurate his performance was.

Hokeyboy 04-11-10 12:32 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 

Originally Posted by andy434343 (Post 10099310)
I really liked his performance in "Wonderland" as well, he played John Hughes very well, although I have no real basis to tell how accurate his performance was.

Blockbuster rents the UNRATED version of Caligula as well as many titles that could easily be considered softcore pornography.

MartinBlank 04-11-10 01:20 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 

Originally Posted by andy434343 (Post 10099310)
I really liked his performance in "Wonderland" as well, he played John Hughes very well, although I have no real basis to tell how accurate his performance was.

http://i.blogs.indiewire.com/thompso..._Hughes_01.jpg

rotflrotflrotfl

Jack Straw 04-11-10 01:22 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 

Originally Posted by Perkinsun Dzees (Post 10098844)
I heard a rumor that Annabella Sciorra got him hooked on heroin.

Well, if someone's going to get you hooked, she's the one I'd want to have around when I/we was feeding my jones.

andy434343 04-11-10 03:04 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 

Originally Posted by MartinBlank (Post 10099361)

ha ha.....I must have been daydreaming as I typed

Travis McClain 04-11-10 03:19 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 

Originally Posted by Ropes Pierre (Post 10099302)
Kilmer...acts as an advisor to the New Mexico Film Investment Program. His commitment to that program has stimulated an increase in the state's annual production revenue, from $3 million in 2002 to $117 million in 2006.

There's your answer to "what the hell happened to Val Kilmer." He's an actor, not a movie star, and one who apparently is content to work outside Los Angeles--to the benefit of his home state. In a perfect world, there'd be a lot more Val Kilmers.

Burnt Thru 04-11-10 03:31 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 

Originally Posted by MinLShaw (Post 10099466)
There's your answer to "what the hell happened to Val Kilmer." He's an actor, not a movie star, and one who apparently is content to work outside Los Angeles--to the benefit of his home state. In a perfect world, there'd be a lot more Val Kilmers.

Kilmer is notorious in the film world for being "difficult" to cope with on set. Tantrums, no-shows, various other guises of prima dona behaviour.. The guy's a bit of a prick if even a tiny fraction of his press is to be believed. His removal from the a-list of Hollywood actors was not entirely his own choice.

That being said I did enjoy him in Heat and much earlier in some of his 80s movies. It's interesting to note how successful Robert Downey Jr has become after his rejuvination in Kiss Kiss Bang Band, and how that success has not translated to Val Kilmer, who I thought put in a very impressive turn.

Travis McClain 04-11-10 03:41 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 

Originally Posted by Burnt Thru (Post 10099478)
Kilmer is notorious in the film world for being "difficult" to cope with on set. Tantrums, no-shows, various other guises of prima dona behaviour.. The guy's a bit of a prick if even a tiny fraction of his press is to be believed. His removal from the a-list of Hollywood actors was not entirely his own choice.

I've always wondered about this, since we know the entertainment world thrives on pacifying whining starlets and keeping self-important stars safely confined within their bubbles of "yes" people. One wonders whether Kilmer is really so combative, or perhaps just not as easily mollified as everyone else? Moreover, we'll never really know what the impetuses for those fits were. Maybe it was something as pointless as whether or not the catering team used clear or opaque cups, but maybe it was something more legitimate. We'll never know, of course; it's all been buried under the label "creative differences."

In any event, I've never met the guy so he continues to exist purely as an entertainer to me. Knowing how cash-strapped New Mexico is, I tip my hat to the guy for bringing in the kind of business that Ropes Pierre cited.

Oh, and I liked him as Batman. There, I said it!

Hadrian7 04-11-10 07:43 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
Val Kilmer remains one of my favorite actors of all time. There I said it. He's one of the few actors that can convincingly pull of different genres and themes. If you don't like and/or appreciate Spartan, Real Genius, Tombstone, Willow, Batman Forever etc... there's something wrong with you. :P

One of my goals is to collect as many Val Kilmer movies as possible. These DTV movies is going to make that a bit harder now.

Idioteque... 04-11-10 07:48 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 

Originally Posted by Hadrian7 (Post 10099803)
Val Kilmer remains one of my favorite actors of all time. There I said it. He's one of the few actors that can convincingly pull of different genres and themes. If you don't like and/or appreciate Spartan, Real Genius, Tombstone, Willow, Batman Forever etc... there's something wrong with you. :P

One of my goals is to collect as many Val Kilmer movies as possible. These DTV movies is going to make that a bit harder now.

I was with you until you said Batman Forever. He's far by the worst Batman unlike Clooney who had none of Batman's characteristics (except he's a playboy in real life like Bruce) was at least fun. Kilmer had no emotion.

Hadrian7 04-11-10 07:52 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
I actually thought the Kilmer's turn as Batman was better than Clooney's. Clooney might have been fun but I liked Kilmer's brooding better. Then again, I haven't watched the movie in a few years now. I do think a Kilmer marathon would be pretty cool though.

JumpCutz 04-11-10 08:06 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
'The Salton Sea' is another good VK movie with a great cast. It's on the level of Wonderland and Spartan. Solid films.

whotony 04-11-10 08:08 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 

Originally Posted by RagingBull80 (Post 10098835)
I thought he was great in Bad Lieutenant: Port of call New Orleans.

Of course he'll always be Chris Knight/Shiherlis to me.

He was in 2 scenes for about 3 minutes.


Originally Posted by Hadrian7 (Post 10099815)
I actually thought the Kilmer's turn as Batman was better than Clooney's. Clooney might have been fun but I liked Kilmer's brooding better. Then again, I haven't watched the movie in a few years now. I do think a Kilmer marathon would be pretty cool though.

I liked Kilmer better too.
Clooney's head was wobbling in his Bats film more then it normally does in his other movies.

JOE29 04-11-10 08:14 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 

Originally Posted by TomOpus (Post 10099201)
Or Top Secret!

http://i40.tinypic.com/mmbpxh.jpg
"It's like we're in some bad DVDTalk thread"

Yes! That's it. Top Secret! Loved it, still do 1984. Remember when you actually had to wait to watch a movie on TV. or at least I had to back then.

The Bus 04-11-10 08:52 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 

Originally Posted by troystiffler (Post 10099301)
Not enough people saw Spartan. I recommend it, if you're renting Netflix - or just want to take a chance buying it for $10-or-so.

This and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang are enough for proof of a good decade in my eyes.

tylergfoster 04-11-10 08:59 PM

Re: What the hell happened to Val Kilmer?!?
 
Loved Spartan, really like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I thought he was a better Batman than Clooney, and I'd like to see him in more stuff.

As long as he still grabs the occasional big role (Deja Vu, MacGruber), I'm not concerned that his career's going down the tubes. You don't see Cuba Gooding Jr. alternating between DTV and theatrical.


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