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Old 01-08-10 | 05:37 AM
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Re: Movies that are superior to the books upon which they're based

The Twilight books

As bad as you may think the movies are, the books are worse.
Old 01-08-10 | 06:51 AM
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Re: Movies that are superior to the books upon which they're based

Originally Posted by Larry C.
The reason Shawshank, Green Mile and the Mist are so great is that they are short stories so all the meat is still there. Short stories always make the best movies.
None of those were short stories. Shawshank and The Mist were novellas. The Green Mile was a full-length novel (originally released in a serialized format).
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Re: Movies that are superior to the books upon which they're based

Originally Posted by UAIOE
I'd say "Frankenstein", only because the book is boring tripe.

Maybe if someone cut down the excessive wordiness and a couple hundred uses of the words "sublime" and "melancholy", it might be better.

Really? Too each their own. After reading the book I could never look at the Classic Universal film the same way.
Old 01-08-10 | 08:16 AM
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Re: Movies that are superior to the books upon which they're based

Originally Posted by Abob Teff
Jurassic Park: The Lost World. The movie was lousy, but the book was an abysmal piece of dinosaur shit.
Like 2001 mentioned above, The Lost World was created in tandem while Crichton was still writing the novel. The two really have nothing to do with each other. Once Crichton was finished, Speilberg mined it for cool scenes, like the trailer over the cliff scene.

Plus the way Jurassic Park the movie ended, vs. the novel created it's own little problems and inconsistencies when continuing on the franchise.
Old 01-08-10 | 10:12 AM
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Re: Movies that are superior to the books upon which they're based

Originally Posted by UAIOE
I'd say "Frankenstein", only because the book is boring tripe.

Maybe if someone cut down the excessive wordiness and a couple hundred uses of the words "sublime" and "melancholy", it might be better.
I'd have to disagree with you on this point, but everyone has their opinion. I would recommend reading the story with a Fight Club mentality. Dr. Frankenstein and his monster are one and the same.
Old 01-08-10 | 11:23 AM
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I happen to like the book a lot, much more than the movie. The movie's tone is sentimental; the book's is sardonic -- so different that I don't know if the movie could be called better or worse.
Old 01-08-10 | 11:36 AM
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I found The Bridge on the River Kwai better developed and engrossing than Pierre Boulle's The Bridge over the River Kwai novel.

As for Frankenstein, or The Modern Prometheus, I think the narrative structure is very difficult to translate to a different medium (ditto Stoker's Dracula). Comparing the original source material with its adaptation is problematic and possibly unfair.

And, for the sake of conversation, I'd posit that one should really see and read both versions of The Tailor of Panama to get a sense of the full story. Le Carrre's novel devotes a lot more attention to Louisa than does the film, which in turn shifts its focus to some other aspects of the story.
Old 01-08-10 | 11:42 AM
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Re: Movies that are superior to the books upon which they're based

Originally Posted by Groucho
None of those were short stories. Shawshank and The Mist were novellas. The Green Mile was a full-length novel (originally released in a serialized format).
Not only that, but look at the movies based upon Stephen King short stories -- Maximum Overdrive, Children of the Corn, The Mangler, Sometimes They Come Back. It's the short stories that have been the basis for the worst King movies.
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Re: Movies that are superior to the books upon which they're based

Originally Posted by Abob Teff
Jurassic Park: The Lost World. The movie was lousy, but the book was an abysmal piece of dinosaur shit.

Some random thoughts:

Thomas Harris's novels declined with each one ... which means, IMO, that Silence of the Lambs was not the best ... Red Dragon was. The drop-off in quality was slight from RD to SOTL; after SOTL the drop-off was epic.

The LOTR movies were not superior to the novels ... they were simply much more accessible. The novels are not easy reads by any stretch of the imagination. However, the novels did not feature

I saw Bram Stoker's Dracula before I read the book ... it amazed me how close the two actually were when it came to the erotic undertones.
Anyone else wondering what the novel didn't feature?

Originally Posted by dino88
I liked The Last Temptation of Christ much more than the Bible.
Old 01-08-10 | 01:48 PM
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Re: Movies that are superior to the books upon which they're based

Originally Posted by lattethunder
Bringing Out the Dead
Deliverance
Big Fish
The World According to Garp
Thank You for Smoking
The Exorcist
Body of Lies
The Taking of Pelham One Two Three
I've only read two of those (Deliverance and Garp) but Garp was much better than the movie even though I liked the movie, and Deliverance was about equal but had one scene that was about the tensest thing I've ever read, so I can't say the movie was better.

Mine is Fight Club which I'm not sure everyone will agree with. I much prefer the movie.
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Lawrence of Arabia.


The Seven Pillars of Wisdom is practically unreadable.
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Re: Movies that are superior to the books upon which they're based

Originally Posted by dino88
I liked The Last Temptation of Christ much more than the Bible.
Old 01-08-10 | 02:11 PM
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Re: Movies that are superior to the books upon which they're based

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I liked The Last Temptation of Christ much more than the Bible.
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Old 01-08-10 | 02:12 PM
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I liked BOTH Stardust and Coraline better as movies.
Old 01-08-10 | 04:46 PM
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Re: Movies that are superior to the books upon which they're based

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I'd have to disagree with you on this point, but everyone has their opinion. I would recommend reading the story with a Fight Club mentality. Dr. Frankenstein and his monster are one and the same.
I don't think the "Fight Club" thing is going to fly, especially since someone already used that for "Ferris Bueller's Day Off".

I guess I just don't like Mary Shelly then, her book was a chore to read. Maybe it was the subject matter, or her writing style. It certainly wasn't because I didn't want to read books, I read most of H.G. Wells' works in 7th grade, and in the same (HS) class as "Frankenstein", I also had to read "Brave New World" and "Fahrenheit 451". I really enjoyed the last two books.
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The book is a racist piece of crap.
+1

Did it have to be about a great white? Aren't there plenty of great African-Americans that could have been used?
Old 01-08-10 | 08:19 PM
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+1

Did it have to be about a great white? Aren't there plenty of great African-Americans that could have been used?
The book was very condescending and disparaging of AAs.
Old 01-08-10 | 09:03 PM
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Re: Movies that are superior to the books upon which they're based

Originally Posted by Abob Teff
Some random thoughts:

The LOTR movies were not superior to the novels ... they were simply much more accessible. The novels are not easy reads by any stretch of the imagination. However, the novels did not feature
Originally Posted by clckworang
Anyone else wondering what the novel didn't feature?

I said that they were random thoughts ... random does not imply that there is a conclusion! I must have gotten busy doing something ... don't know what though -- sorry. What I was going to say was:

The novels did not feature prolonged semi-homo-erotic-Hobbit bed jumping scenes.
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Help me with this one -- Fight Club keeps getting mentioned ... I don't recall the book being very different from the movie. Maybe it is because I have seen the movie too many times. What were the differences?
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They meet on a nude beach, but other than that. Nothing springs to mind. Fight Club works better as a film, methinks, particuarly with Fincher, though the book was very very close.

Same with No Country for Old Men, very similar book, minus one slightly major character. Works better as a film.


Can't believe no one mentioned the Shinning. Great book, perfect film.
Old 01-08-10 | 09:43 PM
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Re: Movies that are superior to the books upon which they're based

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Can't believe no one mentioned the Shinning. Great book, perfect film.
Kubrick and Nicholson crapped on the book by changing Jack Torrance from an alcoholic on the edge of destroying his life and trying not to until the hotel gets a hold of him, to a guy who's just bat-shit insane from start to finish.
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Re: Movies that are superior to the books upon which they're based

Originally Posted by AnonomusBob15
They meet on a nude beach, but other than that. Nothing springs to mind. Fight Club works better as a film, methinks, particuarly with Fincher, though the book was very very close.

Same with No Country for Old Men, very similar book, minus one slightly major character. Works better as a film.


Can't believe no one mentioned the Shinning. Great book, perfect film.
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Old 01-08-10 | 10:55 PM
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I agree with that selection, although it may not be popular with Tolkien fans. Loved The Hobbit but didn't care for Rings.

I'll suggest:

The Bourne Identity. I liked the changes made and preferred the movie to the book. I thought that making the woman who aids Bourne a German, as opposed to a Canadian, worked well.

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. The longest, and my least favorite, Harry Potter book worked well when abridged into the movie. By contrast, the movie version of Goblet of Fire was a travesty; it was abridged out of all recognition.
so was 'Azkaban' huge chunks of the story were excised hap hazzardly


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