Entertainment Weekly and Rolling Stone's best of the decade
12-16-09, 09:38 AM
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I don't hate on TDK because it is popular with fanboys.
I'm a fanboy. I wanted and fully expected to love this movie, but it hits me with glaring chunks of absolute stupidity with an almost metronomic frequency.
Why does the batmobile upon it's first entrance, blithely destroy private property and endanger people by shooting off heavy ordinance? The only purpose to this I can see is to make loud, pretty 'splosions to get the testosterone of the audience raised. Otherwise what it seems to indicate is that Bruce Wayne is far more reckless and dangerous than any of the off-duty cops wearing hockey pads and brandishing assault weapons. There is no satisfaction in seeing Batman put these vigilantes in their place because he is 10x times worse and more irresponsible than they are.
If that wasn't bad enough, we see the Gotham PD effectively endorsing this un-deputized lunatic by putting a bat signal on their roof. You know how many lawsuits that would open them up to, as well as how many arrests and prosecutions would be compromised?
The film is littered with half baked concepts that Nolan clearly can't sufficiently grapple with- so they get introduced but never fully engaged.
I'm a fanboy. I wanted and fully expected to love this movie, but it hits me with glaring chunks of absolute stupidity with an almost metronomic frequency.
Why does the batmobile upon it's first entrance, blithely destroy private property and endanger people by shooting off heavy ordinance? The only purpose to this I can see is to make loud, pretty 'splosions to get the testosterone of the audience raised. Otherwise what it seems to indicate is that Bruce Wayne is far more reckless and dangerous than any of the off-duty cops wearing hockey pads and brandishing assault weapons. There is no satisfaction in seeing Batman put these vigilantes in their place because he is 10x times worse and more irresponsible than they are.
If that wasn't bad enough, we see the Gotham PD effectively endorsing this un-deputized lunatic by putting a bat signal on their roof. You know how many lawsuits that would open them up to, as well as how many arrests and prosecutions would be compromised?
The film is littered with half baked concepts that Nolan clearly can't sufficiently grapple with- so they get introduced but never fully engaged.
12-16-09, 02:20 PM
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I was hoping that as the years have gone by, the polish of the Rings Trilogy would wear off. Guess not. It doesn't belong on any Top Ten of the Decade Lists.
Fellowship=Masterpiece(Extended especially) Towers and King=mediocre at best with King being slightly better...
Fellowship=Masterpiece(Extended especially) Towers and King=mediocre at best with King being slightly better...
12-16-09, 02:27 PM
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Re: Entertainment Weekly and Rolling Stone's best of the decade
I don't hate on TDK because it is popular with fanboys.
I'm a fanboy. I wanted and fully expected to love this movie, but it hits me with glaring chunks of absolute stupidity with an almost metronomic frequency.
Why does the batmobile upon it's first entrance, blithely destroy private property and endanger people by shooting off heavy ordinance? The only purpose to this I can see is to make loud, pretty 'splosions to get the testosterone of the audience raised. Otherwise what it seems to indicate is that Bruce Wayne is far more reckless and dangerous than any of the off-duty cops wearing hockey pads and brandishing assault weapons. There is no satisfaction in seeing Batman put these vigilantes in their place because he is 10x times worse and more irresponsible than they are.
If that wasn't bad enough, we see the Gotham PD effectively endorsing this un-deputized lunatic by putting a bat signal on their roof. You know how many lawsuits that would open them up to, as well as how many arrests and prosecutions would be compromised?
The film is littered with half baked concepts that Nolan clearly can't sufficiently grapple with- so they get introduced but never fully engaged.
I'm a fanboy. I wanted and fully expected to love this movie, but it hits me with glaring chunks of absolute stupidity with an almost metronomic frequency.
Why does the batmobile upon it's first entrance, blithely destroy private property and endanger people by shooting off heavy ordinance? The only purpose to this I can see is to make loud, pretty 'splosions to get the testosterone of the audience raised. Otherwise what it seems to indicate is that Bruce Wayne is far more reckless and dangerous than any of the off-duty cops wearing hockey pads and brandishing assault weapons. There is no satisfaction in seeing Batman put these vigilantes in their place because he is 10x times worse and more irresponsible than they are.
If that wasn't bad enough, we see the Gotham PD effectively endorsing this un-deputized lunatic by putting a bat signal on their roof. You know how many lawsuits that would open them up to, as well as how many arrests and prosecutions would be compromised?
The film is littered with half baked concepts that Nolan clearly can't sufficiently grapple with- so they get introduced but never fully engaged.
12-16-09, 03:13 PM
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Re: Entertainment Weekly and Rolling Stone's best of the decade
Man I'm bored today.
Excellent:
Lord of the Rings: FOTR, Lord of the Rings:ROTK, The Dark Knight, Lost in Translation, There Will Be Blood, Mulholland Drive, The Incredibles
Very Good:
Children of Men, A History of Violence, No Country for Old Men,
Good:
40 Year Old Virgin, Gladiator, The Departed, Almost Famous, LOTR: Two Towers
Not so good:
Wall-E, Mystic River
Terrible:
Moulin Rouge
Haven't seen Brokeback
Excellent:
Lord of the Rings: FOTR, Lord of the Rings:ROTK, The Dark Knight, Lost in Translation, There Will Be Blood, Mulholland Drive, The Incredibles
Very Good:
Children of Men, A History of Violence, No Country for Old Men,
Good:
40 Year Old Virgin, Gladiator, The Departed, Almost Famous, LOTR: Two Towers
Not so good:
Wall-E, Mystic River
Terrible:
Moulin Rouge
Haven't seen Brokeback
12-16-09, 03:22 PM
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There Will Be Blood will go down in history as the movie of the Decade. When the AFI updates its 100 best of all time list again it will be the highest ranked movie from the past decade.
12-16-09, 04:26 PM
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Well, unless Avatar crushes it.
12-16-09, 04:30 PM
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clearly they aren't as well-seen as the folks at The New Yorker.
12-16-09, 06:18 PM
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12-16-09, 06:49 PM
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I love how it's cool to hate on The Dark Knight simply because of all the fandom that ensued upon its release and because of all the fanboys it still obtains. But for any of you to call the film "crap", or not that good, or one of the best of the decade, then you're blind.
TDK is almost universally beloved and held up as some paragon of a smart, mature treatment of a low brow source/subject.
The problem is the thing is monumentally dumb. It has glaring lapses of logic, believability, and coherence.
Sorry, but I think it definitely says something about the audience if they still, after all the hype and spectacle has died down, champion nonsense as having some profundity.
The problem is the thing is monumentally dumb. It has glaring lapses of logic, believability, and coherence.
Sorry, but I think it definitely says something about the audience if they still, after all the hype and spectacle has died down, champion nonsense as having some profundity.
I loved the symbolism of Harvey Dent being the manifestation of the struggle between Batman and The Joker; each extreme (order and chaos) sought to claim him for his own purposes, and it drove him insane in the end. It was interesting how both conservative and liberal reviewers saw in this film either an endorsement or indictment of the Bush administration. Wiretapping as a necessary act? The importance of laying down extreme powers? These are not unimportant issues addressed in this film, and in this way it may be one of the most relevant mainstream films of its era.
Aside from the allegorical value, I do see the legitimacy of the complaints registered above (and elsewhere). On its surface, there are several plot elements that aren't necessarily as well executed as perhaps they could have been. Ultimately, though, I think The Dark Knight is about post-9/11 America than it is about Batman, and so I'm inclined to give it a pass on my nit picks and instead applaud its very thoughtful efforts at being more than just a "comic book movie."
12-19-09, 12:40 PM
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12-19-09, 08:49 PM
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12-19-09, 10:22 PM
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