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Buttmunker 11-17-09 12:31 PM

Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoilers*
 
In reality, First Officer William Murdoch dies. We do not know how, but we can assume he probably died of exposure (fancy way of saying "froze to death in the icy waters").

In reality, it came to light through the years that someone possibly took their own life with a pistol. This "evidence" can be seen through letters written by different surviving passengers to their kinfolk.

I think it was grossly unfair for director/writer James Cameron to have made that someone First Officer Murdoch. Not only does Cameron have this brave man killing himself, but also shows him murdering two passengers, to boot.

If Cameron wanted that scene in, he could have made up an "unidentified Officer" instead of a real one. Cameron's apology to Murdoch's nephew (and the film company's donation) is lame when compared to one's name being dragged through the mud, unnecessarily.

FinkPish 11-17-09 12:36 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 
Yeah, people are constantly chatting with me about how First Officer Murdoch killed 2 people and then himself! Good thing you started this thread.

Pointyskull 11-17-09 12:42 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 
Well, we all now know Buttmunker's last name is Murdoch...

TGM 11-17-09 12:42 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 
Cameron also unfairly depicts all metal endoskeleton cyborgs as vicious killing machines from the future.

pjflyer 11-17-09 12:47 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 

Originally Posted by FinkPish (Post 9840820)
Yeah, people are constantly chatting with me about how First Officer Murdoch killed 2 people and then himself! Good thing you started this thread.

My friends and I call a double murder/suicide "Pulling a Murdoch."

DieselsDen 11-17-09 12:50 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 
If TITANIC had been a flop, this wouldn't be an issue.

Groucho 11-17-09 12:54 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 
I understand Smurfette's family is considering a similar lawsuit over Avatar.

dan30oly 11-17-09 12:56 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 
I keep telling everyone that Cameron is a hack.

Further proof.

sauce07 11-17-09 01:25 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 
does anybody outside the family actually care about this?

dan30oly 11-17-09 01:32 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 

Originally Posted by sauce07 (Post 9840945)
does anybody outside the family actually care about this?

yes.

Dr Mabuse 11-17-09 01:41 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 

Originally Posted by FinkPish (Post 9840820)
Yeah, people are constantly chatting with me about how First Officer Murdoch killed 2 people and then himself! Good thing you started this thread.


Originally Posted by pjflyer (Post 9840849)
My friends and I call a double murder/suicide "Pulling a Murdoch."

:lol:

The Bus 11-17-09 01:47 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 
[X] Thread contains wild accusation
[_] Thread contains erroneous facts
[X] Thread contains peculiar opinion
[X] Thread features trolling by dan30oly
[X] Thread is started by Buttmunker

sauce07 11-17-09 01:50 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 

Originally Posted by The Bus (Post 9840998)
[X] Thread contains wild accusation
[X] Thread contains erroneous facts
[X] Thread contains peculiar opinion
[X] Thread features trolling by dan30oly
[X] Thread is started by Buttmunker


Originally Posted by dan30oly (Post 9840960)
yes.

-smile-

Buttmunker 11-17-09 02:03 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 
Grrr.

Nick Martin 11-17-09 02:15 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 
12 years too late and no one cares anymore.

Ash Ketchum 11-17-09 02:17 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 

Originally Posted by The Bus (Post 9840998)
[X] Thread contains wild accusation
[_] Thread contains erroneous facts
[X] Thread contains peculiar opinion
[X] Thread features trolling by dan30oly
[X] Thread is started by Buttmunker

[ ] Thread contains gratuitous mention of Ash Ketchum's favorite actor and actress

(Be thankful for small favors.)

Josh-da-man 11-17-09 02:50 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 
Maybe the Murdoch family should hire Harlan Ellison's lawyers.

Nick Martin 11-17-09 02:54 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 9841063)
[ ] Thread contains gratuitous mention of Ash Ketchum's favorite actor and actress

(Be thankful for small favors.)

Smurfette?

Cardsfan111 11-17-09 03:01 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 
I admire the spoiler warning in the title. :up:

jjcool 11-17-09 04:12 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 

Originally Posted by sauce07 (Post 9840945)
does anybody outside the family actually care about this?

no.

GoldenJCJ 11-17-09 06:23 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 
I have seen Titanic a hand full of times and I have no idea who Officer William Murdoch is, who portrayed him in the movie, or even remember a murder/suicide scene in the flick.

Though I do feel that icebergs were given an unfair depiction in the movie. Contrary to what James "Fire" Cameron wants us to think, not all icebergs are cruising the waters looking for their next victims.

Rockmjd23 11-17-09 06:40 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 
I remember seeing a website that had a list of real-life people depicted unfairly as villains or cowards in films. I wish I could find it.

Bluelitespecial 11-17-09 07:28 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 
The movie was fiction, of course some stuff may not be true.

Heat 11-17-09 07:45 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 

Originally Posted by Buttmunker (Post 9840804)
In reality, First Officer William Murdoch dies. We do not know how, but we can assume he probably died of exposure (fancy way of saying "froze to death in the icy waters")...

Has this really been bothering you since '97?

http://www2.nbc4i.com/cmh/news/crime...suicide/26110/


Police: 3 Dead In Pataskala Double-Murder-Suicide

PATASKALA, Ohio—Authorities remain on the scene of a Murdoch with three victims, including a 9-year-old boy.

The victims include a 45-year-old, a 46-year-old and a 9-year-old child. Police have not identified the victims....
Fixed.

jfoobar 11-17-09 08:09 PM

Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile
 

Originally Posted by pjflyer (Post 9840849)
My friends and I call a double murder/suicide "Pulling a Murdoch."

:lol: nice


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