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Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoilers*

Old 11-17-09, 12:31 PM
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Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoilers*

In reality, First Officer William Murdoch dies. We do not know how, but we can assume he probably died of exposure (fancy way of saying "froze to death in the icy waters").

In reality, it came to light through the years that someone possibly took their own life with a pistol. This "evidence" can be seen through letters written by different surviving passengers to their kinfolk.

I think it was grossly unfair for director/writer James Cameron to have made that someone First Officer Murdoch. Not only does Cameron have this brave man killing himself, but also shows him murdering two passengers, to boot.

If Cameron wanted that scene in, he could have made up an "unidentified Officer" instead of a real one. Cameron's apology to Murdoch's nephew (and the film company's donation) is lame when compared to one's name being dragged through the mud, unnecessarily.
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

Yeah, people are constantly chatting with me about how First Officer Murdoch killed 2 people and then himself! Good thing you started this thread.
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

Well, we all now know Buttmunker's last name is Murdoch...
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

Cameron also unfairly depicts all metal endoskeleton cyborgs as vicious killing machines from the future.
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

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Yeah, people are constantly chatting with me about how First Officer Murdoch killed 2 people and then himself! Good thing you started this thread.
My friends and I call a double murder/suicide "Pulling a Murdoch."
Old 11-17-09, 12:50 PM
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

If TITANIC had been a flop, this wouldn't be an issue.
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

I understand Smurfette's family is considering a similar lawsuit over Avatar.
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

I keep telling everyone that Cameron is a hack.

Further proof.
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

does anybody outside the family actually care about this?
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

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does anybody outside the family actually care about this?
yes.
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

Originally Posted by FinkPish View Post
Yeah, people are constantly chatting with me about how First Officer Murdoch killed 2 people and then himself! Good thing you started this thread.
Originally Posted by pjflyer View Post
My friends and I call a double murder/suicide "Pulling a Murdoch."
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

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yes.
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Grrr.
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

12 years too late and no one cares anymore.
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

Maybe the Murdoch family should hire Harlan Ellison's lawyers.
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Smurfette?
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

I admire the spoiler warning in the title.
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

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does anybody outside the family actually care about this?
no.
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

I have seen Titanic a hand full of times and I have no idea who Officer William Murdoch is, who portrayed him in the movie, or even remember a murder/suicide scene in the flick.

Though I do feel that icebergs were given an unfair depiction in the movie. Contrary to what James "Fire" Cameron wants us to think, not all icebergs are cruising the waters looking for their next victims.
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

I remember seeing a website that had a list of real-life people depicted unfairly as villains or cowards in films. I wish I could find it.
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

The movie was fiction, of course some stuff may not be true.
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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

Originally Posted by Buttmunker View Post
In reality, First Officer William Murdoch dies. We do not know how, but we can assume he probably died of exposure (fancy way of saying "froze to death in the icy waters")...
Has this really been bothering you since '97?

http://www2.nbc4i.com/cmh/news/crime...suicide/26110/

Police: 3 Dead In Pataskala Double-Murder-Suicide

PATASKALA, Ohio—Authorities remain on the scene of a Murdoch with three victims, including a 9-year-old boy.

The victims include a 45-year-old, a 46-year-old and a 9-year-old child. Police have not identified the victims....
Fixed.

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Re: Titanic (1997): Cameron's unfair depiction of 1st Officer William Murdoch *spoile

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My friends and I call a double murder/suicide "Pulling a Murdoch."
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