The box office flop of the year?
 

I was looking at some of the more widely released films of the year to see which movie flopped hardest.

It looks like Delgo has the distinction of making under $750,000 over it's entire run, and costing $40,000,000 to make.

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Delgo came out in 2008....so maybe last year's yeah.

Release date(s) December 12, 2008

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Imagine That cost 55 million to make, and grossed about 16 million US.

Land of the Lost cost 100 million to make, and grossed about 49 million US.

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Amelia - $40 million production budget + ??? prints and advertising.

$11 million so far at the box office. Ouch.

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When is Avatar due to be released?

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Wasn't Avatar's budge something unholy, like $500 million?

If that's actually true, then I'm just not sure about it. Right now the top flick of the year at the box office is Transformers 2 at only $402 million itself.

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That one's tougher to call a bomb at this point, because it was given a limited release in hopes of building up buzz and gradually expanding for the awards season.

However, reviews have been mixed, so it may not get much expansion. Still, if Swank ends up being nominated for Best Actress, it could get a bit of a boost.

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Yeah and that is what happens when you start a thread a month and a half to early.

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Oops. My mistake.

Looks like Outlander is a good contender for it.

~$166,000 at the US box office on a $50,000,000 budget.

It did make $6.2mil worldwide though.

A shame, as it was a fun film.


Unless A Christmas Carol has some staying power, in the long run it might be a commercial disaster. A $30mil opening weekend for a Disney movie starring Jim Carey that cost $200mil+ is pretty bad.

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I think it will have staying power. I bet a lot of people aren't in the mood to see a Christmas movie just yet. Plus, like The Polar Express, it may be shown again in future years.

It's like Lewis Black said, "When I was a kid, Halloween was Halloween, and Santa wasn't poking his ass into it!" :)

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The budget's supposedly around 200-300 mil. The rest comes from P&A. But that 500 mil number was a guesstimate from the NY Times, who knows what it really is. But yeah, if Avatar doesn't kick ass at the theater it's gonna go down in flop history.

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Biggest flop of 2008: Delgo
Biggest flop of 2009: Delgo 2: Avatar

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Avatar is shaping up to be one of the all time flops.

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Wow, I didn't know Avatar was playing already.

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I think Avatar will have a hard time cracking 200 million domestic unless word of mouth is off the charts. Then again with international BO and DVD/BD sales etc...this could indeed turn a tidy profit.

On the other hand, if it's slammed by the critics and word of mouth is poor, 'Heaven's Gate' type floppage could be it's destiny.

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Only dan30orly knows for sure.

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dan30 http://vogons.zetafleet.com/files/orly.jpg

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People said the same thing about Titanic all the way up to opening weekend.

Astroboy was a pretty big flop...it cost about $70 million to make. Then again, A Christmas Carol is probably only going to gross about $75 million (domestic), but it cost a whopping $200 million...so "flop" is all relative. For example, most people think Jennifer's Body bombed, but it more than made it's money back...same with Saw VI.

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There's no proof to that yet. Based on my personal surrounding of individuals and the people that flock the theater I go to..which is next to my college. Seems like a lot of them wanted to see it. NOW....that's just where I live. And DVDtalk seems to in mixed feeling towards so...who knows.

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I think they said that about that movie Titanic before it was released.

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Nice.

Avatar will soon be seen as the biggest flop of any year.

That is, until Watchmen 2: Watch Harder is released in 2013.

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Nothing I've seen from Avatar so far makes me want to see it.

And nobody I know IRL shows much interest in it either; I doubt most have even heard of it.

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Funny about that. People always remember the 1 exception amongst a see of rules.

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Nobody I know is talking about AVATAR, not even my film buff nephews. Plus, most of the young people I know (nephews excluded), including a couple dozen media grads I work with, don't even watch stuff in theaters anymore. They download movies and burn them onto disc and pass them around that way.

While the 3-D curiosity factor will draw many young people to the theater for AVATAR, I suspect that the adult audience, who made TITANIC such a hit, will ignore AVATAR. I remember everyone going to see TITANIC, even to the point of finally pressuring me to go see it, and then incessantly talking about the story and characters. The word of mouth was quite strong on it. As much as I disliked the movie, plenty of other people were moved by it. They didn't go see it because of Cameron--most of them couldn't care less who Cameron was--they went and saw it for the story and characters. I don't see anything remotely like that happening with AVATAR. The blue-skinned aliens will only attract the sci-fi/animation/techie geek crowd, but not the "average" people who will be needed to make this a hit. TRANSFORMERS 2 was a huge hit because it attracted: a) all the fans of the first TRANSFORMERS film, plus b) the kids who get off on giant robot action. Will AVATAR have that same appeal for kids? I somehow doubt it. Can the marketing whizzes pull off a miracle and get everyone talking about AVATAR in time for the Dec. 10 premiere? Will word-of-mouth, once it's opened, be so strong that it will keep the film in theaters as long as TITANIC was held over? We'll see.

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I thought the driving force for Titanic was the teen girls who saw it a dozen times in theaters. Not that I see Avatar really appealing to them either.

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Wow, I liked that movie, but had no idea it actually had a budget.

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Wow, I am shocked to come into this thread and find the same two people cluttering up the Avatar thread now predicting Avatar to be the biggest flop ever. Shocked!

I will never see a penny of the gross, but please Jesus let it make a bajillion dollars just to shut these people's mouths.

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Avatar won't be a huge flop. It's a guaranteed 100 million. Will it disappoint? More than likely, but I'm sure financially it'll work out in the end. And it won't hurt Cameron.

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That's a popular conception, but TITANIC wouldn't have been the worldwide hit it was if it was only teen girls going to see it. (In that case, TWILIGHT would be almost as big a grosser.) I know plenty of adults who don't go to the movies much or don't talk about movies much who all went to see TITANIC. It was a cultural phenomenon that tended to cut across age, race, class and sex lines. It's rare to find a movie that can do that. That's why it's the top grosser of all time, whether I like it or not. I don't see AVATAR becoming that kind of phenomenon.

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:lol:

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I sea what you mean. :(

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$100 million against a $300 million budget isn't a very good showing. Someone just lost $200 million.

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I have no idea what Avatar is about. Is there smurfs in it?

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The plot is exactly the same as Cartman's little movie, except they are blue JarJars, not blue smurfs.

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So this "avatar" movie is completely seperate from the "Last Airbender" movie?

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How can anyone think this movie might flop?

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I thought Avatar was an Anime?

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I personally thought the story kinda sucked, but then again I expected to go in and see a movie about the actual history of the boat. Don't kid yourself, teen girls helped the movie in the same manner many guys helped Star Wars over and over again. It's a combination of right movie at the right time.

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It is. They are going live action with it.


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No, they live actioned it with that guy who puts twists in his movies and has people running from wind.