So, yeah, the Tin Man is gay?
09-28-09 | 06:00 AM
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But Oz never did give nothin' to the Tin Man
That he didn't already have
And cause never was the reason for the evening
Or the tropic of Sir Galahad
I think that pretty much puts that issue to rest.
But Oz never did give nothin' to the Tin Man
That he didn't already have
And cause never was the reason for the evening
Or the tropic of Sir Galahad
I think that pretty much puts that issue to rest.
09-28-09 | 07:03 AM
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It's a little-known fact that the Tin Man appeared in a handful of gay porn movies in the 1920s under the alias Rusty Cox.
09-28-09 | 08:21 AM
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09-28-09 | 08:42 AM
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09-28-09 | 08:55 AM
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In Wicked (the novel, not the sanitized musical) it's implied that two of Dorothy's companions are in a gay relationship. But I can't remember which two it was.
09-28-09 | 09:57 AM
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You may be on to something...
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09-28-09 | 12:51 PM
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In a non-gay Tin Man story, I always liked the Tin Man as a kid. He was the only one that talked like a "real person" to me. Later in life I realized that the actor playing him has a HEAVY Boston accent (I'm from Boston) which is why as a kid his voice sounded more natural to me.
Out of all the dialog in the movie, he was given the most with Boston accent heavy words. "Bears", "heart", hilarious.
Out of all the dialog in the movie, he was given the most with Boston accent heavy words. "Bears", "heart", hilarious.
09-28-09 | 01:14 PM
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09-28-09 | 01:50 PM
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09-28-09 | 02:13 PM
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I was always under the impression that pretty much everyone in "The Wizard of Oz" was gay.
The Scarecrow is like the older, gentlemanly gay man. The Tin Man is the fussy gay man. The cowardly lion is the funny gay guy. The Wicked Witch of the West is the mean old lesbian who doesn't like anybody.
And Dorothy, who's like the ultimate *** hag.
The Scarecrow is like the older, gentlemanly gay man. The Tin Man is the fussy gay man. The cowardly lion is the funny gay guy. The Wicked Witch of the West is the mean old lesbian who doesn't like anybody.
And Dorothy, who's like the ultimate *** hag.
09-28-09 | 02:24 PM
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Those little Munchkins certainly seemed more than a bit gay as well. And I think they were Hispanic too! 
09-28-09 | 02:27 PM
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You know you're gay when...
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09-28-09 | 02:37 PM
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09-28-09 | 06:44 PM
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Not sure who else was watching tonight, but TBS had the Wizard of Oz in HD showing. Now, I truly love this movie, and have seen it many times before. I decided to watch it tonight in between some of the games that were on.
Now, I assume that during my childhood and adolescent years my virgin eyes and ears deceived me, because tonight I noticed a revelation the likes of which I had never seen: the tin man is gay.
Now, I'm not making fun of or being snarky towards gay people, actors, entertainers, or whatever. I love Elton John's music, and believe Neil Patrick Harris is one of the funniest actors working today. Now that you know I'm not some homophobic bigot, I just don't understand how the Tin Man got away with being SO gay. Everything from the over-the-top "Oh Sthop it!!" to the hands on the hips to his queenish prancing just felt wrong in this movie. When the Scarecrow and Dorothy oiled his elbows, the tin man exclaims "Oh, well, that feels wonderful!" in the most peculiar way. His mannerisms were almost like a really bad impression of a gay person. Nonetheless, I must reiterate this doesn't bother me at all, and kind of makes me giggle a little, I was just so surprised I had never noticed it until now. Rupert Everett sang show tunes in My Best Friend's Wedding and used the word 'darling' at least fifteen times, but the tin man still came off as more over the top (BTW, My Best Friends Wedding is still one of the few chick flicks I truly enjoy, part of which being Everett's awesome performance.)
Now, I still love this movie and will own it this week on BD. And the gay tin man doesn't ruin my experience. However, am I really the only person not to have noticed this before? I haven't really sat down to watch it in years, so that may be the reason as well. Anyway, I guess I'm a little surprised no one asked him to tone it down a bit or raised an eyebrow. And while I'm entirely too busy too look at the actors name who played tin man (I'm not), and don't care either way (I sort of do), I hope the man is gay(couldn't care less). If not, a posthumous oscar may be in order.
Has anyone ever noticed this at all? Or any other characters that changed so much after seeing a movie many times?
EDIT: Upon further investigation, the actor is Jack Haley. He is not gay. He had a wife and two children. Go figure, huh?
Now, I assume that during my childhood and adolescent years my virgin eyes and ears deceived me, because tonight I noticed a revelation the likes of which I had never seen: the tin man is gay.
Now, I'm not making fun of or being snarky towards gay people, actors, entertainers, or whatever. I love Elton John's music, and believe Neil Patrick Harris is one of the funniest actors working today. Now that you know I'm not some homophobic bigot, I just don't understand how the Tin Man got away with being SO gay. Everything from the over-the-top "Oh Sthop it!!" to the hands on the hips to his queenish prancing just felt wrong in this movie. When the Scarecrow and Dorothy oiled his elbows, the tin man exclaims "Oh, well, that feels wonderful!" in the most peculiar way. His mannerisms were almost like a really bad impression of a gay person. Nonetheless, I must reiterate this doesn't bother me at all, and kind of makes me giggle a little, I was just so surprised I had never noticed it until now. Rupert Everett sang show tunes in My Best Friend's Wedding and used the word 'darling' at least fifteen times, but the tin man still came off as more over the top (BTW, My Best Friends Wedding is still one of the few chick flicks I truly enjoy, part of which being Everett's awesome performance.)
Now, I still love this movie and will own it this week on BD. And the gay tin man doesn't ruin my experience. However, am I really the only person not to have noticed this before? I haven't really sat down to watch it in years, so that may be the reason as well. Anyway, I guess I'm a little surprised no one asked him to tone it down a bit or raised an eyebrow. And while I'm entirely too busy too look at the actors name who played tin man (I'm not), and don't care either way (I sort of do), I hope the man is gay(couldn't care less). If not, a posthumous oscar may be in order.
Has anyone ever noticed this at all? Or any other characters that changed so much after seeing a movie many times?
EDIT: Upon further investigation, the actor is Jack Haley. He is not gay. He had a wife and two children. Go figure, huh?
And then what about the scarecrow's dancing that's gay.
And the wizard's suit is gay.
The whole movie is gay.
09-28-09 | 09:35 PM
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I know one thing, the Tin Man in "The Wiz" was into Fat Chicks. A man after my own...pardon the pun...Heart. 
Of course, most of you have probably never heard of "The Wiz" or think it sucked if you have since there's no White people in it; and it dares to look at a Classic Film with different eyes. 
< Fuckin' Racist
Of course, most of you have probably never heard of "The Wiz" or think it sucked if you have since there's no White people in it; and it dares to look at a Classic Film with different eyes. < Fuckin' Racist
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09-28-09 | 10:04 PM
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- Yes
- No
- Only once
- Of course... I'm Hispanic!
Something about cultural machismo... I dunno. I have male relatives in Portugal and Spain who have no problem wearing those European capri-pants-for-men and walking arm-and-arm. All married with kids. I'm getting a little uncomfortable all of the sudden.