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stingermck 06-24-09 12:36 PM

Oscars doubling best-picture nominees to 10
 
Ok took a slight break from my GI Joe/Transformer threading and just saw this:


BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. – The Academy Awards are doubling the number of best-picture nominees from five to 10.

Academy President Sid Ganis said at a news conference that the academy's board of governors made the decision to expand the slate. Ganis said the decision will open the field up to more worthy films for the top prize at Hollywood's biggest party.

The change takes effect with next year' Oscars on March 7.

The move is a return to Oscar traditions of the 1930s and '40s, when 10 nominees were common.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090624/...NjYXJzZG91Ymxp

Damn. 10 just seems like a lot. So now we will have 9 movies to bitch about getting shafted instead of 4.

Travis McClain 06-24-09 12:52 PM

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I'm not sure I understand the benefit of this. Five nominees or ten, there's still just the one winner. Given that plenty of other movies have always been nominated, just not receiving enough votes to make it to the final five, I'm not sure that I see where this will affect anything substantial. What this means is that, to set up an additional five clips during the presentation of the award, they've decided to drop one of the brief segments elsewhere. It also means that five more movies will be able to slap "Academy Award Nominee for Best Picture" on their DVD and Blu Ray releases. Great for marketing, unless the kind of people who are impressed by that kind of thing feel like it's diluted.

Drop 06-24-09 12:55 PM

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Well it gives the voters more options, so it could actually make a difference on what gets best picture.

devilshalo 06-24-09 01:02 PM

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And fuck some of the other catagories.. good job! Bad enough they lessened the number of contenders from 5 to 3 in the Best Visual Effects catagory over the years. Heck, one year it was only 2... AND THE FUCKING TALKING PIG WON?!

How about upping it to 5 nominees for Best Animated Feature? Or Best Make Up? or Best Original Song?

BravesMG 06-24-09 01:08 PM

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This is crap, pure and simple. Just another reason to studios to slap the "Nominated for Best Picture" tag on more mainstream films.

Doughboy 06-24-09 01:12 PM

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While part of me likes the idea that great films such as The Dark Knight will have a better shot at a Best Picture nod(even if this move is a year too late), overall I wish they'd left it at 5 nominees. Imagine how much longer the telecast will be when they have to show clips from an additional 5 movies.

geicos27 06-24-09 01:13 PM

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I'm guessing this is due to the outrage of The Dark Knight being screwed last year.

JaxComet 06-24-09 01:13 PM

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They may have trouble finding 10 good movies in a one year timeframe.... :D

Ash Ketchum 06-24-09 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stingermck (Post 9522986)
Ok took a slight break from my GI Joe/Transformer threading and just saw this:

BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. – The Academy Awards are doubling the number of best-picture nominees from five to 10.


The move is a return to Oscar traditions of the 1930s and '40s, when 10 nominees were common.

Yeah, but they actually made enough good movies back then to justify that many nominees.

jmu878 06-24-09 01:25 PM

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I honestly haven's seen a single movie yet this year that's worthy of a statue. Then again, I thought all 5 nominees last year were mediocre and Slumdog's sweep was a travesty. I guess we'll see what happens.

Dr Mabuse 06-24-09 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MinLShaw (Post 9523056)
I'm not sure I understand the benefit of this.

Money.


Originally Posted by BravesMG (Post 9523136)
This is crap, pure and simple. Just another reason to studios to slap the "Nominated for Best Picture" tag on more mainstream films.

Yep.

pinata242 06-24-09 01:31 PM

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I can't wait until the year (this?) that they can't justifiably fill 10 slots without opening themselves up to ridicule.

GenPion 06-24-09 01:33 PM

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I hope this means better movies getting Best Picture nominations. Lately, the Academy Awards have been a total joke.

Doughboy 06-24-09 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by geicos27 (Post 9523156)
I'm guessing this is due to the outrage of The Dark Knight being screwed last year.

In part. I'm sure it's because the more diverse the field of nominees is, the better they figure the ratings will be. Very few people gave a crap about any of the Best Picture nominees this past year.

Cardiac161 06-24-09 01:40 PM

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If they allow 10 nominees for Best Picture, then it should only be fair that they also allow 10 nominees for the major awards like acting, screenplay, editing, & directing.

But then this would mean the awards show would be more than 10 hours.

Geofferson 06-24-09 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BravesMG (Post 9523136)
This is crap, pure and simple. Just another reason to studios to slap the "Nominated for Best Picture" tag on more mainstream films.

Exactly what I was thinking. Not a fan of this stunt.

MoviePage 06-24-09 01:59 PM

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This is out of the blue. I don't think anyone had even heard a whisper of this being floated around as a possibility. I agree with others that it's mostly a move to benefit marketing and ratings.

It's great that movies like The Dark Knight and Wall-E will be able to make it in (and you can now safely bet your house that Up will be Pixar's first Best Picture-nominated film, especially given this year's overall pickings), but it also means that plenty of ridicule-worthy titles will make it in as well. But then, how's that different from the usual? How can there possibly be a worse slate of BP nominees than this year's?

Bandoman 06-24-09 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BravesMG (Post 9523136)
This is crap, pure and simple. Just another reason to studios to slap the "Nominated for Best Picture" tag on more mainstream films.

This

stingermck 06-24-09 02:24 PM

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Hmm I wonder besides TDK what wouldve made up the list of 10 this year.

The Antipodean 06-24-09 02:28 PM

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Too many! 6 or even 8 I can see, but 10? Yeesh.

dx23 06-24-09 02:28 PM

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Wait until you see next years DVDs and Blu-rays of films like The Soloist with the Best Picture Nominee plastered all over it. It was 4 films before, now it will be 9 with that ugly crap on its artwork.

RichC2 06-24-09 02:31 PM

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Every movie in early '10 will have a "Best Picture Nominee" label.

starseed1981 06-24-09 02:32 PM

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Lost most of my respect for the Oscars once they gave "Crash" best picture. Just imo.

Supermallet 06-24-09 02:32 PM

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Clearly they're anticipating the big Oscar push for Star Trek. ;)

JohnSlider 06-24-09 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Doughboy (Post 9523152)
While part of me likes the idea that great films such as The Dark Knight will have a better shot at a Best Picture nod(even if this move is a year too late), overall I wish they'd left it at 5 nominees. Imagine how much longer the telecast will be when they have to show clips from an additional 5 movies.

:lol:

RagingBull80 06-24-09 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 9523258)
I can't wait until the year (this?) that they can't justifiably fill 10 slots without opening themselves up to ridicule.

This is what I'm thinking. The newest "_____ Movie" will end up being nominated just to fill a spot.


Originally Posted by John Slider (Post 9523535)
:lol:

I don't get what's funny.

Mr. Cinema 06-24-09 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stingermck (Post 9523497)
Hmm I wonder besides TDK what wouldve made up the list of 10 this year.

Doubt most certainly would have...and should have anyways.

The Wrestler and Revolutionary Road would likely be 2 more choices in addition to Wall-E. Even though it had awful acting from the supporting cast, I think Gran Torino could have been in there as well. It was released so late in the game that it had no buzz going into the nominations, even though it cleaned up at the box office.

RichC2 06-24-09 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RagingBull80 (Post 9523658)
This is what I'm thinking. The newest "_____ Movie" will end up being nominated just to fill a spot.


I don't get what's funny.

He didn't think it was great, so be it. There are a lot that disagree and there are a lot of people that agree. I thought Wall-E was a poor movie but the oscar hype for that flick was deafening.

This really is a pointless change, add one or two don't double the damn thing.


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema (Post 9523674)
Doubt most certainly would have...and should have anyways.

The Wrestler and Revolutionary Road would likely be 2 more choices in addition to Wall-E.

That's 4.

In the interest of ratings, it probably would have been The Wrestler, Rev Road, Doubt, The Dark Knight and Wall-E.

Double_Oh_7 06-24-09 03:25 PM

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Stupid. Why not just nominate EVERY movie for Best Picture... same logic.

RichC2 06-24-09 03:27 PM

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Haha yeah it can be like those movies that put the Cannes logo because they were "in competition."

Drexl 06-24-09 03:31 PM

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I can't say I like it, but as long as they're keeping the Best Director nominations to 5, you can bet that at least 4 of those films would have been nominated for BP if it had 5 noms. And, the winner will at least be nominated in that category (if not win it).

I think the reasoning behind this is to try to get more people to watch the telecast. It probably won't change how they vote, but if more people tune in thinking a summer blockbuster or animated movie has a shot, it's a win for them.

RagingBull80 06-24-09 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 9523679)
He didn't think it was great, so be it.

I figured that. I just didn't know that bashing The Dark Knight was still the cool thing to do.

GenPion 06-24-09 03:31 PM

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The Dark Knight IS a great film. It was robbed a nomination, and it could have even deservedly won Best Picture. Slumdog Millionaire was a good film, to be sure, but was it even Danny Boyle's best -- let alone better than the Dark Knight? No, it wasn't. And yet it won almost everything this last year. I think Christopher Nolan is one of the best film-makers currently working and his achievement should have been recognized.

Solid Snake 06-24-09 03:37 PM

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Whoa whoa whoa. I love TDK. I'll argue it needed a best pic nomination. But..better than Slumdog? No. Slumdog was ,to what an American audience would see, a exotic take of the standard guy gets girl story in a foreign world that we don't know. I saw Slumdog and I was like...fuck...TDK got topped by this. It was fresh, vibrant, and exotic for my eyes to see a take on a multiply told many times over tale.

Mr. Cinema 06-24-09 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GenPion (Post 9523712)
The Dark Knight IS a great film. It was robbed a nomination, and it could have even deservedly won Best Picture. Slumdog Millionaire was a good film, to be sure, but was it even Danny Boyle's best -- let alone better than the Dark Knight? No, it wasn't. And yet it won almost everything this last year. I think Christopher Nolan is one of the best film-makers currently working and his achievement should have been recognized.

This is one question we'll never get answered. What did Stephen Daldry and Ron Howard do directing wise that was more difficult than anything Chris Nolan did?

Supermallet 06-24-09 03:39 PM

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Slumdog was intensely overrated, and as someone said, not even Danny Boyle's best film. If it weren't for Sunshine, I'd say it was his worst film. It wasn't even as good as Frost/Nixon, let alone The Dark Knight or The Wrestler.

sauce07 06-24-09 03:40 PM

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I like it. I don't care if 5 more movies have a "Nominated for Best Picture" stamp on it, the DVD cover art will still suck. The voting pool is going to be more spread out, anything has a legitimate shot at winning. A lot of people only go see small movies if they are nominated for Best Pic, this would bring more business to movies like Before the Devil Knows You're Dead which got snubbed.

TGM 06-24-09 03:53 PM

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is this the NHL playoffs?

PopcornTreeCt 06-24-09 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Double_Oh_7 (Post 9523687)
Stupid. Why not just nominate EVERY movie for Best Picture... same logic.

Exactly. The same people that vote for the nominees vote for the winners.

10 movies is garbage. They should have an asterisk next to it, when 20 years from now people are like "Star Trek remake was nominated for Best Picture?"

This is the worst idea since giving the Oscar to Slumdog Millionaire.

Doctor Gonzo 06-24-09 04:43 PM

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just another ploy by oscar to boost sagging ratings - and a too-late fix for a Dark Knight snub.

I see more comedy, a sci-fi flick or maybe a super hero movie or action/adventure getting a bone tossed to it - "welcome to the party!" - and still not having a chance to actually win over more snob fare like slumdog.

They are smart, however - knowing you are more likely to tune in if your favorite movie makes the cut.


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