No Batman 3 until 2013?
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Re: No Batman 3 until 2013?
Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
As much as I liked Ledger as The Joker he wasn't so great that the part could never be recast. If Nolan went with another Joker (IMO, an unknown actor would be best) no one would fault him for it.
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I'll be honest, I *loved* TDK and thought it was a superior genre movie, but if Nolan decided to never make another Batman movie again, I'd be perfectly fine with that. He is such a talented and visionary filmmaker that I'm more than excited to see what the director of Memento, Insomnia, and The Prestige comes up with next.
What I like about Nolan is that, first and foremost, it's about the storytelling. His movies are about something and follow through on their inherent themes and ideas; it's not just big "high concept" ideas that end up half-baked and overcooked at the same time.
What I like about Nolan is that, first and foremost, it's about the storytelling. His movies are about something and follow through on their inherent themes and ideas; it's not just big "high concept" ideas that end up half-baked and overcooked at the same time.
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Re: No Batman 3 until 2013?
If I were Nolan, I would stop with TDK and walk away on top. As history shows, the third movie is usually a disappointment: Jedi, Superman III, Matrix Revolutions, Spiderman III, Xmen 3, Back to the Future III. Now some of these are good sequels, but other then Return of the King, which is from source material and party of a trilogy.
Sure we like our closure with our trilogies, but they always disappoint.
Sure we like our closure with our trilogies, but they always disappoint.
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If I were Nolan, I would stop with TDK and walk away on top. As history shows, the third movie is usually a disappointment: Jedi, Superman III, Matrix Revolutions, Spiderman III, Xmen 3, Back to the Future III. Now some of these are good sequels, but other then Return of the King, which is from source material and party of a trilogy.
Sure we like our closure with our trilogies, but they always disappoint.
Sure we like our closure with our trilogies, but they always disappoint.
It would be nearly impossible to top TDK, both creatively and at the box office. Nolan should pull a Costanza and walk out on top. "I'm out!"
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Re: No Batman 3 until 2013?
I just hope they bring back the joker.
Another great trilogy capper is of course the Good the bad and the Ugly,
Maybe they can do the Gordon, the Batman, and the JOker?
I dont know. But if the cast is back i am there. I'll be there anyways cause i love me some batman though
Another great trilogy capper is of course the Good the bad and the Ugly,
Maybe they can do the Gordon, the Batman, and the JOker?
I dont know. But if the cast is back i am there. I'll be there anyways cause i love me some batman though
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There's never been a good third installment of any franchise. There's very few exceptions to the rule, but when it applies to trilogies, the success rate is pretty much zero.
Don't get me wrong; I enjoy Matrix Revolutions, Back to the Future: Part III, and Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors; but 99% of the time, the third entry is guaranteed to suck.
If Nolan didn't want to do it, then he shouldn't do it. I'll take two strong films over two strong films and a mediocre film. However, if Warner gives him millions and the ability to have creative and financial control for additional films in exchange to make a Batman 3, I can see why he would revisit the franchise.
Don't get me wrong; I enjoy Matrix Revolutions, Back to the Future: Part III, and Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors; but 99% of the time, the third entry is guaranteed to suck.
If Nolan didn't want to do it, then he shouldn't do it. I'll take two strong films over two strong films and a mediocre film. However, if Warner gives him millions and the ability to have creative and financial control for additional films in exchange to make a Batman 3, I can see why he would revisit the franchise.
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Although I'd be fine if this movie series ended with TDK, the fact is that there will be a 3rd Batman film in this series, no matter what. TDK made Warner Bros. too much money for that not to happen. It doesn't need the Joker because there's plenty of other good choices for a villain in Batman's rogue galley (how about a properly done Catwoman or Riddler instead?) - it just needs Nolan (and Christian Bale) to return for it to have the best chance of being a good-to-great movie.
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I'd prefer to see what Nolan envisions for a third film. He obviously had no intention of wrapping it up with TDK. Nolan is a visionary director, I think the chances of a third Batman faltering would be slime-to-none.
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IDK, I thought I read the deal with Inception was Warner would finance it in exchange for a third Batman movie (along with a pay raise, of course)...
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Yeah, I don't see how the Joker would fit into the third movie.
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Bah, fanboys can suck it! They'll raise hell in the internet, bitch and moan about how horrible an idea it is, complain that it'll tarnish TDK, and they'll still be the first in line to buy tickets.
People make fun of fanboys for a reason...
People make fun of fanboys for a reason...
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There's never been a good third installment of any franchise. There's very few exceptions to the rule, but when it applies to trilogies, the success rate is pretty much zero.
Don't get me wrong; I enjoy Matrix Revolutions, Back to the Future: Part III, and Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors; but 99% of the time, the third entry is guaranteed to suck.
If Nolan didn't want to do it, then he shouldn't do it. I'll take two strong films over two strong films and a mediocre film. However, if Warner gives him millions and the ability to have creative and financial control for additional films in exchange to make a Batman 3, I can see why he would revisit the franchise.
Don't get me wrong; I enjoy Matrix Revolutions, Back to the Future: Part III, and Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors; but 99% of the time, the third entry is guaranteed to suck.
If Nolan didn't want to do it, then he shouldn't do it. I'll take two strong films over two strong films and a mediocre film. However, if Warner gives him millions and the ability to have creative and financial control for additional films in exchange to make a Batman 3, I can see why he would revisit the franchise.
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Nolan is one of the few current directors where I appreciate his work more as time goes on. Mostly because they seem to get swallowed by hype (at least, Memento ("It's like having a Sixth Sense revelation every 10 minutes!"), The Prestige, Batman Begins and The Dark Knight) upon initial release.
How dare he pick subject matter that Internet geeks actually like
How dare he pick subject matter that Internet geeks actually like
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Re: No Batman 3 until 2013?
I think he said once that a 3rd part is very risky cuz well it always sucks. It's clear that TDK laid out for the Joker to be back. What nobody and not even their mother saw was that TDK would be as good or as financially successful as it was (money wise Ledger's death may or may not be the cause of it, I think it got even more ppl in theaters). Financially speaking, I heavily doubt 3 will make as much bank as TDK. It'll hit the still great $300 million for sure. Critically speaking now, I think he has a chance to top TDK. Though...as much as I'd hate to wait so long..I'd prefer for him to tackle that curse slowly and come out with an even more amazing Batman flick. I'm interested in what Nolan will do AFTER he's done with the Batman flicks..how will the people respond once his BIG films are done?
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That was his reasoning for being hesitant about The Dark Knight. There are very, very few sequels that are better than the original. Yet he was successful. If he actually made a third movie in a series that was as good or better than the previous, he would be the first.
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Hopefully WB waits for Nolan, whether it's 2012 or 13. They've got a Harry Potter film for the next three yrs, plus they could do a Superman sequel in the meantime.
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What I prefer:
Batman
Batman Returns
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Blade
Blade 2
Fantastic Four
Fantastic Four 2
Spider-Man
Spider-Man 2
Superman
Superman 2
X-Men
X-Men 2
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You may be onto something there.
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What they should do for the third movie is have a lot of crimes that make it look like The Joker is out again. Batman will visit Arkham Asylum and realize that it can't possibly be The Joker because he is still locked up. Then have it be Harley Quinn, who The Joker met and corrupted while she was helping treat him at Arkham. This would allow them to call back to The Joker and maybe just have him in the shadows; use some old Heath Ledger vocals and just get a body double to play him. Then have Batman also have to deal with being chased by the police and perhaps introduce someone else, like Catwoman.
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I'm just glad they are not rushing it. quality over quantity. i can wait 5 years if need be as long the script is right and nolan returns. it's obvious warner, like marvel studios and unlike Fox, wants to make good quality comic book films. the problem that goyer and nolan are going to run into is that after riddler and raz, batman's villains are really lame. i can't see the likes of freeze and riddler being pulled off by any great script. they are corny villains. i think if nolan can't find something he is really driven by, he should leave while on a high note. i wouldn't blame him. i do like kstublen's idea though, but the actress that pulls off harley quinn would have to be lights out talented to follow up what heath did with the joker.



