Most Disappointing Comic Book Adaptation to Screen?
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I agree, The Fantastic Four was pretty bad.
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The Fantastic Four has always walked a fine line between light and dark. No matter what, a FF movie should be fun. X-Men is too dark, the FF movie that was made was too light.
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I've pretty much always expected the worst from comic book films and tend to only get riled up when they totally bastardize one of my favorite characters. Since I'm a big Dr. Doom fan I despise the FF movies even though I think they did a fairly decent job with the vapid heroes themselves (sorry but I've never cared for that group).
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Fantastic Four had huge potential, none of which was realized in the first film. I also agree that a 'light' tone with that particular material isn't the problem.
FF the film, was just uninspired hack work.
To dovetail with another thread here- This was the perfect property to dispense with a by-the-numbers, cliched origin story. The characters here are not dual identity do-gooders forged by deep seeded psychological hang-ups or adolescent traumas. They are up front celebrities in the public eye. The exposition of their origin could have been dispensed with during something like Sue Storms appearance as a guest on a day-time talk show. The host could re-cap the origin in a 30 second lead-in, and the simple fact that this character is appearing casually on a daytime talk show implies what the first film took 40 minutes to establish- that these characters are not at all like Spider-man, Superman, Batman, etc.
Very little thought or imagination went into making that film anything special which is a shame since, as someone else pointed out, the technology finally exists to do the premise justice.
But my personal pick would probably be Spider-man 3. The first two films not only did the heavy lifting of establishing the basic conflict, and advancing it, but they also provided a clear guide book for what didn't work so well (the Goblin's power ranger costume for one). S-m 3 could have rectified previous flaws and paid that smoldering conflict off perfectly. Instead we got another cluster-f#ck of merchandising opportunities masquerading as a movie. I still love the second film, and love at least half of the first one- but I've seen S-m 3 once, and will never waste my time watching it again. That film is the main reason I haven't bought the Bd set. I don't want to have to pay even $1 more for that p-o-s.
FF the film, was just uninspired hack work.
To dovetail with another thread here- This was the perfect property to dispense with a by-the-numbers, cliched origin story. The characters here are not dual identity do-gooders forged by deep seeded psychological hang-ups or adolescent traumas. They are up front celebrities in the public eye. The exposition of their origin could have been dispensed with during something like Sue Storms appearance as a guest on a day-time talk show. The host could re-cap the origin in a 30 second lead-in, and the simple fact that this character is appearing casually on a daytime talk show implies what the first film took 40 minutes to establish- that these characters are not at all like Spider-man, Superman, Batman, etc.
Very little thought or imagination went into making that film anything special which is a shame since, as someone else pointed out, the technology finally exists to do the premise justice.
But my personal pick would probably be Spider-man 3. The first two films not only did the heavy lifting of establishing the basic conflict, and advancing it, but they also provided a clear guide book for what didn't work so well (the Goblin's power ranger costume for one). S-m 3 could have rectified previous flaws and paid that smoldering conflict off perfectly. Instead we got another cluster-f#ck of merchandising opportunities masquerading as a movie. I still love the second film, and love at least half of the first one- but I've seen S-m 3 once, and will never waste my time watching it again. That film is the main reason I haven't bought the Bd set. I don't want to have to pay even $1 more for that p-o-s.
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But my personal pick would probably be Spider-man 3. The first two films not only did the heavy lifting of establishing the basic conflict, and advancing it, but they also provided a clear guide book for what didn't work so well (the Goblin's power ranger costume for one). S-m 3 could have rectified previous flaws and paid that smoldering conflict off perfectly. Instead we got another cluster-f#ck of merchandising opportunities masquerading as a movie. I still love the second film, and love at least half of the first one- but I've seen S-m 3 once, and will never waste my time watching it again. That film is the main reason I haven't bought the Bd set. I don't want to have to pay even $1 more for that p-o-s.
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But my personal pick would probably be Spider-man 3. The first two films not only did the heavy lifting of establishing the basic conflict, and advancing it, but they also provided a clear guide book for what didn't work so well (the Goblin's power ranger costume for one). S-m 3 could have rectified previous flaws and paid that smoldering conflict off perfectly. Instead we got another cluster-f#ck of merchandising opportunities masquerading as a movie. I still love the second film, and love at least half of the first one- but I've seen S-m 3 once, and will never waste my time watching it again. That film is the main reason I haven't bought the Bd set. I don't want to have to pay even $1 more for that p-o-s.
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But my personal pick would probably be Spider-man 3. The first two films not only did the heavy lifting of establishing the basic conflict, and advancing it, but they also provided a clear guide book for what didn't work so well (the Goblin's power ranger costume for one). S-m 3 could have rectified previous flaws and paid that smoldering conflict off perfectly. Instead we got another cluster-f#ck of merchandising opportunities masquerading as a movie. I still love the second film, and love at least half of the first one- but I've seen S-m 3 once, and will never waste my time watching it again. That film is the main reason I haven't bought the Bd set. I don't want to have to pay even $1 more for that p-o-s.
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Fantastic Four had huge potential, none of which was realized in the first film. I also agree that a 'light' tone with that particular material isn't the problem.
FF the film, was just uninspired hack work.
To dovetail with another thread here- This was the perfect property to dispense with a by-the-numbers, cliched origin story. The characters here are not dual identity do-gooders forged by deep seeded psychological hang-ups or adolescent traumas. They are up front celebrities in the public eye. The exposition of their origin could have been dispensed with during something like Sue Storms appearance as a guest on a day-time talk show. The host could re-cap the origin in a 30 second lead-in, and the simple fact that this character is appearing casually on a daytime talk show implies what the first film took 40 minutes to establish- that these characters are not at all like Spider-man, Superman, Batman, etc.
Very little thought or imagination went into making that film anything special which is a shame since, as someone else pointed out, the technology finally exists to do the premise justice.
But my personal pick would probably be Spider-man 3. The first two films not only did the heavy lifting of establishing the basic conflict, and advancing it, but they also provided a clear guide book for what didn't work so well (the Goblin's power ranger costume for one). S-m 3 could have rectified previous flaws and paid that smoldering conflict off perfectly. Instead we got another cluster-f#ck of merchandising opportunities masquerading as a movie. I still love the second film, and love at least half of the first one- but I've seen S-m 3 once, and will never waste my time watching it again. That film is the main reason I haven't bought the Bd set. I don't want to have to pay even $1 more for that p-o-s.
FF the film, was just uninspired hack work.
To dovetail with another thread here- This was the perfect property to dispense with a by-the-numbers, cliched origin story. The characters here are not dual identity do-gooders forged by deep seeded psychological hang-ups or adolescent traumas. They are up front celebrities in the public eye. The exposition of their origin could have been dispensed with during something like Sue Storms appearance as a guest on a day-time talk show. The host could re-cap the origin in a 30 second lead-in, and the simple fact that this character is appearing casually on a daytime talk show implies what the first film took 40 minutes to establish- that these characters are not at all like Spider-man, Superman, Batman, etc.
Very little thought or imagination went into making that film anything special which is a shame since, as someone else pointed out, the technology finally exists to do the premise justice.
But my personal pick would probably be Spider-man 3. The first two films not only did the heavy lifting of establishing the basic conflict, and advancing it, but they also provided a clear guide book for what didn't work so well (the Goblin's power ranger costume for one). S-m 3 could have rectified previous flaws and paid that smoldering conflict off perfectly. Instead we got another cluster-f#ck of merchandising opportunities masquerading as a movie. I still love the second film, and love at least half of the first one- but I've seen S-m 3 once, and will never waste my time watching it again. That film is the main reason I haven't bought the Bd set. I don't want to have to pay even $1 more for that p-o-s.
I finally watched FF Silver Surfer last week. Definite improvement over the first film. But bringing Doom back was lame, weakly connected to the Latveria origin, and pretty much pointless. Also, we never got to see a shot of Galactus which was a big letdown. Another problem is there is just no good chemistry between the team.
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Nobody mentioned The Spirit? Maybe because nobody saw it... I know I didn't, even though I was excited about it, mainly due to the bad press. It's out on DVD and I still haven't bothered, though I'm sure I will someday. Same with Batman and Robin, word of mouth was enough to turn me away.
Superman III was bad, but IV was a travesty. I will never forget watching the "rebuild-the-Great-Wall-vision" that Superman had.
Agree with the newer FF movies. I was so excited when they announced that the Silver Surfer would be in it... and then we get Mr. Fantastic dancing.
As a kid, I liked Howard the Duck and Supergirl. I didn't have high expectations for, and never saw, the Catwoman movie. And I'm assuming we're not mentioning the terrible made for TV "movies" like Nick Fury and Gen X.
Superman III was bad, but IV was a travesty. I will never forget watching the "rebuild-the-Great-Wall-vision" that Superman had.
Agree with the newer FF movies. I was so excited when they announced that the Silver Surfer would be in it... and then we get Mr. Fantastic dancing.
As a kid, I liked Howard the Duck and Supergirl. I didn't have high expectations for, and never saw, the Catwoman movie. And I'm assuming we're not mentioning the terrible made for TV "movies" like Nick Fury and Gen X.
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You ARE joking, right?
The monster tractor scene is downright pathetic and is a prime example of the B-movieness of this film. In fact, calling it a B-movie is actually an insult to B-movies.
I agree that Helen Slater was easy on the eyes, but that still frame shot posted up above is infinitely more appealing to view than the movie itself.
The monster tractor scene is downright pathetic and is a prime example of the B-movieness of this film. In fact, calling it a B-movie is actually an insult to B-movies.
I agree that Helen Slater was easy on the eyes, but that still frame shot posted up above is infinitely more appealing to view than the movie itself.
I loved SUPERMAN and SUPERMAN II. I was hoping SUPERGIRL would make up for the SUPERMAN III travesty, but it was worse. The invisible monster, the unexplained existence of Argo City, the Omegahedron...just terrible. It's more depressing than interesting.
I thought DICK TRACY was a great attempt at an adaptation, but it was too boring.
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