Surrogates - Bruce Willis
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But there's always exceptions. So I don't turn down trying-out any movie.
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I remember when he was on "Friends" as Ross' student-girlfriend's father. That was funny. I loved his guest appearance on that show, but this role is much more fitting for him. He really does well with Sci-Fi movies I think.
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This movie looks like it might be choppy and pointless as opposed to short and sweet.
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I've seen the trailer for this film and there's a big problem with the plot that I can't seem to get past.
The film sets up a society where people stay in their homes and send out robotic surrogates to interact in the 'real' world while they experience what their surrogate experiences thru some sort of virtual reality set up.
Question... If all people experience is a virtual reality representation, what's the point of using these top-of-the-line, expensive androids? Why can't everybody just sit in their chairs and interact in a VR world?
Unless I missed something in the trailer, this just seems a strange plot device to me.
The film sets up a society where people stay in their homes and send out robotic surrogates to interact in the 'real' world while they experience what their surrogate experiences thru some sort of virtual reality set up.
Question... If all people experience is a virtual reality representation, what's the point of using these top-of-the-line, expensive androids? Why can't everybody just sit in their chairs and interact in a VR world?
Unless I missed something in the trailer, this just seems a strange plot device to me.
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This looks... interesting, sort of. Unless my semi-local drive-in theater shows a double bill of this with Pandorum, I'll likely pass.
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Question... If all people experience is a virtual reality representation, what's the point of using these top-of-the-line, expensive androids? Why can't everybody just sit in their chairs and interact in a VR world?
Unless I missed something in the trailer, this just seems a strange plot device to me.
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I've seen the trailer for this film and there's a big problem with the plot that I can't seem to get past.
The film sets up a society where people stay in their homes and send out robotic surrogates to interact in the 'real' world while they experience what their surrogate experiences thru some sort of virtual reality set up.
Question... If all people experience is a virtual reality representation, what's the point of using these top-of-the-line, expensive androids? Why can't everybody just sit in their chairs and interact in a VR world?
Unless I missed something in the trailer, this just seems a strange plot device to me.
The film sets up a society where people stay in their homes and send out robotic surrogates to interact in the 'real' world while they experience what their surrogate experiences thru some sort of virtual reality set up.
Question... If all people experience is a virtual reality representation, what's the point of using these top-of-the-line, expensive androids? Why can't everybody just sit in their chairs and interact in a VR world?
Unless I missed something in the trailer, this just seems a strange plot device to me.
Also, a VR world probably couldn't be taken seriously and would spiral out of control. Ever have fun going on killing sprees in Grand Theft Auto? Yea, something like that.
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I've seen the trailer for this film and there's a big problem with the plot that I can't seem to get past.
The film sets up a society where people stay in their homes and send out robotic surrogates to interact in the 'real' world while they experience what their surrogate experiences thru some sort of virtual reality set up.
Question... If all people experience is a virtual reality representation, what's the point of using these top-of-the-line, expensive androids? Why can't everybody just sit in their chairs and interact in a VR world?
Unless I missed something in the trailer, this just seems a strange plot device to me.
The film sets up a society where people stay in their homes and send out robotic surrogates to interact in the 'real' world while they experience what their surrogate experiences thru some sort of virtual reality set up.
Question... If all people experience is a virtual reality representation, what's the point of using these top-of-the-line, expensive androids? Why can't everybody just sit in their chairs and interact in a VR world?
Unless I missed something in the trailer, this just seems a strange plot device to me.
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Having been forced to sit through the trailer for this seemingly every time I've been to the movies in the past 4 months, I find it insulting that there are no critic screenings for it.
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Why do all banner ads for this movie like the one on ESPN.com make Surrogates look like it's advertising a porn site?
While I have not and have no intentions of seeing this movie, I know enough about it to know this is misleading!
http://espn.go.com/
Look to the top, it will appear.
While I have not and have no intentions of seeing this movie, I know enough about it to know this is misleading!
http://espn.go.com/
Look to the top, it will appear.
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Just saw it and it was horrible. They did nothing with the concept. The whole film just doesn't make any sense. I've been angry all day just from seeing it.
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Coming from the wishing well of utopian sci-fi concepts, "Surrogates" sets up a world where humans are so afraid to leave their homes and apartments, lest they suffer harm from violence or disease, and rely on their surrogates (basically sophisticated human-controlled puppets/robots/avatars walking around in the real world) to do their jobs and entertain themselves, much like a videogame of virtual reality, only it happens in the real world while people just lie in their reclined chair, jacked in, and living vicariously through their surrogates.
The film's script wants the audience to accept far too many implausible developments to make such a premise involving and believable. The world filled with surrogates is compromised when a weapon turns up and is able to kill the person controlling their surrogate by firing it at the surrogate, something thought impossible due to supposed fail-safes in place. This threatens to undermine the entire concept of safe surrogacy. Bruce Willis's character Tom Greer is a FBI agent assigned to a case of surrogate murder, along side his partner (Rahda Mitchell), and they follow the clues to uncover possible suspects in a murder-mystery within this framework.
I guess I just wasn't able to get past the concept as presented in the first roll of the film, so the rest of the film just felt hollow, even as it strained to say something profound about the human condition through our connections to one another in the flesh, communicating with people by looking them in the eye and taking in non-verbal cues, and not layer up our defenses with robotic stand-ins.
I give it 2 stars, or a grade of C.
The film's script wants the audience to accept far too many implausible developments to make such a premise involving and believable. The world filled with surrogates is compromised when a weapon turns up and is able to kill the person controlling their surrogate by firing it at the surrogate, something thought impossible due to supposed fail-safes in place. This threatens to undermine the entire concept of safe surrogacy. Bruce Willis's character Tom Greer is a FBI agent assigned to a case of surrogate murder, along side his partner (Rahda Mitchell), and they follow the clues to uncover possible suspects in a murder-mystery within this framework.
I guess I just wasn't able to get past the concept as presented in the first roll of the film, so the rest of the film just felt hollow, even as it strained to say something profound about the human condition through our connections to one another in the flesh, communicating with people by looking them in the eye and taking in non-verbal cues, and not layer up our defenses with robotic stand-ins.
I give it 2 stars, or a grade of C.
Last edited by Patman; 09-26-09 at 01:27 PM.
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Entertaining, but i'm not sure if I got everything, but maybe because the film is full of plot holes. Just watch I, Robot or A.I. instead. Surrogates is like Philip K. Dick for kids.
This movie makes me appreciate Terminator 3 more though. Surrogates was like a Terminator 3 Lite.
Bruce Willis is as entertaining as ever, and it's nice to see that he's in good shape and hasn't fattened up. I really love Bruce Willis in leading-action roles. It feels like he's been doing a lot of supporting characters or cameos lately.
This movie makes me appreciate Terminator 3 more though. Surrogates was like a Terminator 3 Lite.
Bruce Willis is as entertaining as ever, and it's nice to see that he's in good shape and hasn't fattened up. I really love Bruce Willis in leading-action roles. It feels like he's been doing a lot of supporting characters or cameos lately.



