Giles

when does IFC plan on releasing this to the theatres and On Demand?

LickTheABCs

Gunde

Saw this one again last night. Almost a completely different experience after reading Eberts analysis if it. There's a lot of clever symbolism and ideas in it. Great movie.

And it hits Blu-ray in the UK in november.

james2025a

I just watched the movie. I found it to be interesting but very nasty at points. First time in many many years where i have physically squirmed when watching certain scenes. A movie i will certain be giving a lot of thought to in coming days...but not one i will want to revisit any time soon.

dino88

My review:

LickTheABCs

A few things made me squirm, but not as "hardcore" as I had been expecting. Still a great movie though.

Mabuse

Where did you all see it? It doesn't open in USA until October.

Jnuke

I saw it in Geneva on vacation the other month. Two or three people walked out. Good times!

TheySentYou

i umm.. downloaded it. tsk tsk.

and what a phenomenally mesmerizing art film this was!

there's a lengthy article about it in the latest issue of Film Comment - positioning Lars von Trier as a director attempting to retain the same elements of unrestrained artful storytelling influenced by the approach and recent deaths of Antonioni, Bergman, and Tarkovsky. It kind of implies von Trier carrying the torch of these late greats. neat article.

Gunde

Outside of the US it's been shown in many countries already

Larry C.

Just watched it and I feel the same exact way.

beavis69

I just watched it and feel the same way as everyone else so far. Two pretty big cringe moments but i think people are flying way off the handle. I have a feeling the sexual scenes are what are putting critics off. I will say though that this has the dubious honor off being only the second movie ive said "f this ill watch it during the day." Something about a GOOD use of sound(and sometimes none at all) and haunting imagery creeps me out more than a traditional scare. Oh and the first movie to make me say that was The Shining

LickTheABCs

I feel the same way. I think people were more put off

ChineseCheckers

Jesus Christ.

Giles

no... 'Anti' Christ

whoopdido

Whoa.

I'm not a prude by any means, but are scenes like that REALLY necessary?

Larry C.

Its someones vision. They were necessary for him to tell the story the way he wanted to. Thats it nothing to it.

james2025a

Well i managed to see the movie as i have a friend who is a movie reviewer and he was provided with s screener dvd and we managed to watch that together. It was very interesting as another friend joined us who is a psychologist and we had a very long discussion about the movie afterwards.

In response to those that wonder if what is shown is necessary, well the movie really has issues with the idea of religions, spirituality, sexuality and the idea that women are almost to be considered un-natural....even evil. The film as any fan of Von triers will see has large aspects of misogny and even though it is not easy to watch the scenes of violence are certainly things that go beyond the shocking and have meaning behind them. The symbolism in the movie is what i found to be incredibly interesting. For example at one point when they go to Eden the female character mentions that the noise on the roof is the acorns falling. She also mentions that an Oak tree only needs to have one acorn grow in a hundred years in order to reproduce. I found the noise of the acorns and the fact that they never stop is fascinating. It clearly is there to remind her continually that the falling acorn is nature representing the falling of her child and constantly reminding (even punishing) her of what happened. After watching it a second time i now really appreciate this movie and don't think it deserves the criticism it has been given.

whoopdido

Yeah I guess that's true, but still...yikes.

ReduxGuy

I gotta agree.

I'm not one for censorship, but depending on the situation, some lines really SHOULD be drawn.

Every time I read about , I feel incredibly sick.

Gunde

^ No they shouldn't. Unless it's downright illegal of course

whoopdido

I'm guessing he means the filmmakers themselves should draw their own line. I didn't get from that post that he's in support of censorship.

I'm not either. I understand that it was his movie and he's free to do whatever he wants and if I don't want to watch it I don't have to. I just wonder if showing those scenes in graphic detail really made the movie better. The point could still be made by showing those scenes off camera.

Then again, that's what he wanted to do, so it's all good. I, personally, don't want to see it though.

Slumbering Fist

Solid film. I'm not a huge Von Trier fan but he's typically pushing buttons and hamhandedly exploring his usual themes in good form with this one. Might be my second favorite film by him. Nice to see he's back to making actual films with his solid mastery of visuals and scoring instead of just sparingly DV filming staged plays.

As for the explicit stuff, it didn't really rattle me that much and is so quick and obvious, the bits could be removed without harming the film in any way. You get the point without those two or thee graphic shots, but I can see why he chose to include them.

Superboy

Jesus christ this movie was fucked up. I shouldn't have watched it at 3 in the morning. I could not sleep after watching this movie.

For once, someone made a good horror movie.

My Other Self

I saw this last night. I didn't like it. Very slow-paced.. I got a lot of the imagery von Trier was going for, so I understand that, but I think all of this gore and stuff that's hyped up is just for shock. Not only that, but nothing remotely gory happens until the end of the film.

This movie was nothing spectacular. If anything I think it's getting a lot of buzz over nothing since those "shock scenes" are just reminiscent of the shock scenes in movies like Misery and Fatal Attraction. That's it.