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Old 02-09-09, 03:06 PM
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Re: Oscar winners that didn't deserve it?

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1. my first, rather obvious choice is "Crash" in 2006 winning Best Pic. the much maligned, talked about choice didn't deserve to beat out the stellar "Brokeback Mountain" which was so different and of course not the safe choice, but to me had Best Pic written all over it.
I thought Brokeback was great but I thought Capote was the best picture that year. I know I'm in the minority there but I'm surprised that Capote rarely gets mentioned amongst the best films of that year. Choosing Capote certainly wouldn't have been a bigger blunder than choosing Crash.
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Originally Posted by Goat3001
I thought Brokeback was great but I thought Capote was the best picture that year. I know I'm in the minority there but I'm surprised that Capote rarely gets mentioned amongst the best films of that year. Choosing Capote certainly wouldn't have been a bigger blunder than choosing Crash.
really, the movie as a whole? i thought Hoffman absolutely deserved the Oscar and glad he got it, but the movie as a whole i didn't think should have been nominated. i thought Brokeback saw amazing performances from the entire cast, Williams and Hathaway as well.
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1998 was a terrible year
Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan
Roberto Benigni over Ian McKellen (I'll never understand this one)
Gwyneth Paltrow over Cate Blanchett
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I'm still miffed that "Beauty and the Beast" got "Everything I Do (I Do It for You)"'s trophy for song in '91. Other than watching Letterman host, I haven't watched the Academy Awards since.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
1998 was a terrible year
Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan
Roberto Benigni over Ian McKellen (I'll never understand this one)
Gwyneth Paltrow over Cate Blanchett
ugh. very true on all accounts!
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ORDINARY PEOPLE in 1980.
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really, the movie as a whole? i thought Hoffman absolutely deserved the Oscar and glad he got it, but the movie as a whole i didn't think should have been nominated. i thought Brokeback saw amazing performances from the entire cast, Williams and Hathaway as well.
Just my opinion. I wasn't as impressed with Brokeback Mountain as others were. I thought it was great and one of the best of the year but I enjoyed Capote and Munich more. Personally, I didn't buy into the "nobility" of the whole thing. I just don't see how making a movie about homosexuality in rural Wyoming in the 60's is any more noble than making a movie about 1972 murders in Munich or a movie about the relationship between a writer and a murderer. Then again, I was 20 when the movie came out so maybe the whole idea of homophobia didn't hit me as hard as it would someone that lived during a time when it was less accepted. I wasn't really impressed with Milk either (outside of Sean Penn's performance).

But nothing against Brokeback Mountain. It was great. I just think the movie would be an afterthought now if it had won Best Picture. As it stands, I think it's overrated because people think it was snubbed. I also think that at the time the hype of the movie was too big. There were people proclaiming that it would be remembered 20 years from now and 4 years later the only time it seems to come up is when someone mentions that it was snubbed at the Oscars.

Crash and Good Luck and Good Night had no business being nominated at all, IMO.
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Originally Posted by Goat3001
Crash and Good Luck and Good Night had no business being nominated at all, IMO.
yeah, i just saw GNaGL the other day and while it was good and well played i don't think it was outstanding in anyway shape or form and very small scale, almost tv movie like.

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Julia Roberts for Best Actress, Crash for Best Picture, American Beauty for Best Picture.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
1998 was a terrible year
I have to agree
The Thin Red Line should have won best picture instead of Shakespeare in Love.
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75% of the Best Picture winners of the 1990s and 2000s.
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Originally Posted by scott1598
yeah, i just saw Frost/Nixon the other day and while it was good and well played i don't think it was outstanding in anyway shape or form and very small scale, almost tv movie like.
Fixed.
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75% of the Best Picture winners.
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Re: Oscar winners that didn't deserve it?

I haven't agreed with a Best Picture winner since Braveheart in '95.

Originally Posted by scott1598
i'm just disagreeing with you saying that it will be so "obvious" that Ledger doesn't deserve this if he wins. i don't think it is obvious in anyway. tell me why it is obvious that any of the others should win...
Whether he deserves it or not, I can't say, but I feel truly sorry for anyone that wins that is not Heath Ledger. The momentum and public support for him is nothing short of amazing. The pressure on the actual winner must be insane and their speech is going to have to be humble to say the least.
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Re: Oscar winners that didn't deserve it?

Originally Posted by scott1598
yeah, i just saw Frost/Nixon the other day and while it was good and well played i don't think it was outstanding in anyway shape or form and very small scale, almost tv movie like.
Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Fixed.
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I haven't agreed with a Best Picture winner since Braveheart in '95.
One I disagree with...I would have picked APOLLO 13.
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1999: Kevin Spacey over Russell Crowe. This should have been Crowe's oscar for the Insider
I agree with you that Spacey didn't deserve it, but I think Denzel Washington in The Hurricane was far and away the best performance of the year.
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Al PAcino should have won best actor for Godfather II instead of Art Carney for Harry and Tonto. And Denzel should have won for Malcolm X instead of Pacino in Scent of a Woman.
Also about 95% of the song winners are pieces of shit. Aimee Mann should have won the Oscar over that piece of shit Phil collins Tarzan garbage.
And some of the worst best picture winners ever (and didnt even deserve to be nominated ) are The Lost Weekend, Chicago, Driving Miss DAisy (should have gone to Do the RIght thing that year), Crash, Ordinary People, Chariots of Fire and West Side Story.
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One I disagree with...I would have picked APOLLO 13.
Oh it's a great movie, but just a 'by-the-numbers' affair, IMO. Plus we just had Tom Hanks in Philadelphia ('93)& Tom Hanks in Forrest Gump('94). I love Hanks as much as the next guy, but we didn't need another Hanks vehicle in '95 winning big for three straight years. That may sound silly, but

Originally Posted by chris_sc77
Aimee Mann should have won the Oscar over that piece of shit Phil collins Tarzan garbage.
You're just anti-Disney and want the song for the R-rated flick that's over 2 hours long to win, not based on the song's actual merit. The Tarzan soundtrack is criminally underrated. Granted the award is Best Original Song, so the award should have either gone to South Park for Blame Canada (it doesn't get more original than that) or to Sarah McLachlan for Toy Story 2 with When She Loved Me which is a song about a toy lamenting the loss of her best friend (again, pretty fucking 'original') Then again, TS2 is Disney as well so I'm sure I won't win you over on that one.

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Originally Posted by scott1598
Frost/Nixon is a glorified TV movie.
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I liked Frost/Nixon fine...it's not Best Picture quality but I liked it. Martin Sheen made it more tolerable...I liked Frost a lot.
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Originally Posted by chris_sc77
Al PAcino should have won best actor for Godfather II instead of Art Carney for Harry and Tonto. And Denzel should have won for Malcolm X instead of Pacino in Scent of a Woman.
Also about 95% of the song winners are pieces of shit. Aimee Mann should have won the Oscar over that piece of shit Phil collins Tarzan garbage.
And some of the worst best picture winners ever (and didnt even deserve to be nominated ) are The Lost Weekend, Chicago, Driving Miss DAisy (should have gone to Do the RIght thing that year), Crash, Ordinary People, Chariots of Fire and West Side Story.
I was agreeing with you untill you got to WEST SIDE STORY.
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Originally Posted by chris_sc77
And some of the worst best picture winners ever (and didnt even deserve to be nominated ) are The Lost Weekend, Chicago, Driving Miss DAisy (should have gone to Do the RIght thing that year), Crash, Ordinary People, Chariots of Fire and West Side Story.
Why the dismissal of The Lost Weekend? Sure, some elements are dated, but Milland turns in a terrific performance, and Billy Wilder's direction is top-notch. A well deserved Oscar winner, and certain entitled to a better DVD edition than it currently possesses.


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