Disrespected films that don't deserve so much hate?
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I rewatched TPM a little while ago and thought that it's aged terribly. Yeah, Duel of the Fates is still great, having Liam Neeson was great, but the pace is very slow, the pod race is a bore, the rest of the cast looks confused on screen, and the main plot is not at all engaging.
I also think the SFX look extremely dated now. Of the three, for some reason this movie's SFX are very poorly done.
I also think the SFX look extremely dated now. Of the three, for some reason this movie's SFX are very poorly done.
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I rewatched TPM a little while ago and thought that it's aged terribly. Yeah, Duel of the Fates is still great, having Liam Neeson was great, but the pace is very slow, the pod race is a bore, the rest of the cast looks confused on screen, and the main plot is not at all engaging.
I also think the SFX look extremely dated now. Of the three, for some reason this movie's SFX are very poorly done.
I also think the SFX look extremely dated now. Of the three, for some reason this movie's SFX are very poorly done.
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Surviving Christmas- having just watched this on tv, everyone seems to hate it but I found it to be very funny.
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Actually, I watched it on Spike or one of those kinds of channels when they had one of those Star Wars marathons on.
Thing is, the second one looks really, really good, and it's only a couple of years later.
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There are some films that have gotten so much hate, but as bad as they may be, they certainly don't deserve so much hate or negative attention. If anything, these films are basically just "fair films" that have gotten massive amounts of hatred due to bloated production costs, high expectations, or the fame around their directors. (I still don't understand why people's expectations think an expensive movie is going to be better than a cheaper film).
- Gangs of New York
- Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions
- Quantom of Solace
- Waterworld
- Dick Tracy
- Hook
- Heaven's Gate
- Blair Witch Project
- Superman Returns
- Star Wars prequels
- The Golden Compass
- Eragon
There is no way that I can put Pearl Harbor or 10,000,000 BC on that list!...and I wonder where Battlefield Earth stands now (I thought it wasn't that bad when I saw it once in the theater).
Can anyone think of any more of these types of films?
- Gangs of New York
- Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions
- Quantom of Solace
- Waterworld
- Dick Tracy
- Hook
- Heaven's Gate
- Blair Witch Project
- Superman Returns
- Star Wars prequels
- The Golden Compass
- Eragon
There is no way that I can put Pearl Harbor or 10,000,000 BC on that list!...and I wonder where Battlefield Earth stands now (I thought it wasn't that bad when I saw it once in the theater).
Can anyone think of any more of these types of films?
To be honest I do not think that the Star Wars prequels get ENOUGH critisizm. They are totally horrible movies with ludicrous storylines that are not even faithful to themselves. Even in he third one, the turning of Anakin was ludicrous, the characters actions completely unbelievable and the movie just sucked. I love the original ones, but the prequels were INCREDIBLY BAD.
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To be honest I do not think that the Star Wars prequels get ENOUGH critisizm. They are totally horrible movies with ludicrous storylines that are not even faithful to themselves. Even in he third one, the turning of Anakin was ludicrous, the characters actions completely unbelievable and the movie just sucked. I love the original ones, but the prequels were INCREDIBLY BAD.
Here's another film that isn't that bad:
I thought the movie was absolutely boring when I saw it in the theaters, but I just watched it today (bought it used for 3 dollars), and strangely, it's not bad at all. It's a pretty good movie representation of the cartoon that I love. If it totally followed the cartoon exactly, it would just be too weird. I think I like action movies pre-Bourne 2 and 3/Quantum of Solace now - I give extra points for any action films that aren't as quick cut/awfully edited as those films. So maybe without the existance of those awfully directed/edited films, I can find a new appreciation for action films between the years of Matrix and Bournes/Quantum...
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Oh yeah, Aeon Flux. Rented it when it came out cause I worked at Blockbuster and found it enjoyable. I know it was cut from the director's vision, maybe if her upcoming movie Jennifer's Body is a hit maybe they'll release a "Director's Cut" DVD.
But then again, is that worth hoping a horrible-sounding Diablo Cody written Megan Fox starring turd is a hit?
But then again, is that worth hoping a horrible-sounding Diablo Cody written Megan Fox starring turd is a hit?
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Fantastic Four-If you're willing to give it a 2nd look, please seek out the Extended Edition.
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I hate when people make this argument -- just because something is intended for kids doesn't mean it has to be mind-numbingly bad. The Jungle Book, Alice in Wonderland, Treasure Island and The Little Lame Prince are children's books, but they're also among the great books of Western literature. There's no reason the Star Wars prequels couldn't've been as good as The Iron Giant or Watership Down -- but Lucas had such contempt for his audience that he thought Jar Jar and a kid with no talent yelling "Yippie" in the most unconvincing fashion possible, would be good enough.
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The Spirit is quickly climbing this list. It's no classic, but it doesn't deserve a fraction of the venom that's being flung at it. It's self-indulgent, a mangling of the source material, and all over the map, but it is far from a crime against humanity, which is what I keep seeing people exaggerate it to. The third Mummy sequel runs rings (of awfulness) around The Spirit with one hand tied behind its back.
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I hate when people make this argument -- just because something is intended for kids doesn't mean it has to be mind-numbingly bad. The Jungle Book, Alice in Wonderland, Treasure Island and The Little Lame Prince are children's books, but they're also among the great books of Western literature. There's no reason the Star Wars prequels couldn't've been as good as The Iron Giant or Watership Down -- but Lucas had such contempt for his audience that he thought Jar Jar and a kid with no talent yelling "Yippie" in the most unconvincing fashion possible, would be good enough.
I made the mistake of watching Watership Down when I was a kid - I had nightmares from it...I wouldn't show that to a kid...
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To be honest I do not think that the Star Wars prequels get ENOUGH critisizm. They are totally horrible movies with ludicrous storylines that are not even faithful to themselves. Even in he third one, the turning of Anakin was ludicrous, the characters actions completely unbelievable and the movie just sucked. I love the original ones, but the prequels were INCREDIBLY BAD.
As for my list of films that deserve more respect:
Terminator 3 - decent sequel with a killer truck chase and a ballsy ending
Licence To Kill - the general public seems to dismiss this movie as crap
Dick Tracy - other than Madonna's terrible performance, this is a great flick
Batman Forever - decent entry that could've been much better had it not been butchered in the editing room
Meet Joe Black - way too long, but I still love this movie
Eyes Wide Shut - I don't know why people rag on it so much; it's vintage Kubrick
The Thin Red Line - a love it or hate it movie that I personally love
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On a more serious note.
'Sorcerer' was a good movie. I appreciate it more with repeat viewings. It was panned as a failure by critics and the audience at the time.
I understand the reaction to the 'audacity', I guess, of taking Clouzot's masterpiece down 'off the shelf'. But it's a good movie that stands on it's own. I don't think Friedkin was trying to match 'Wages', just make more of an homage to a film that had inspired and affected him as a film maker.
'Sorcerer' was a good movie. I appreciate it more with repeat viewings. It was panned as a failure by critics and the audience at the time.
I understand the reaction to the 'audacity', I guess, of taking Clouzot's masterpiece down 'off the shelf'. But it's a good movie that stands on it's own. I don't think Friedkin was trying to match 'Wages', just make more of an homage to a film that had inspired and affected him as a film maker.