H2, aka Halloween 2 (Rob Zombie)
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I just want to put this out there so people can stew on it: Rob Zombie remade Halloween, and like every remake there are going to be haters like a lot of the people that have been posting on this thread. But I just want to let you haters in on a little secret: Rob Zombie did not touch the original Halloween. He didn't pull a George Lucas and mess with the original. He took the story from the original and put his own spin on it. There is nothing wrong with that. They do revivals on Broadway all the time and no one complains, so why can't Rob Zombie do his own version of Halloween? How many times has Dracula been remade? Hundreds of times and no one complains. If you don't like the movie or the idea of the movie THEN DON'T SEE IT. It's very simple. I think that the remake of Halloween is a very good movie and a very good remake. If you just look at all the remakes they do then you might see my point. I will be there on opening day for this movie because I happen to be a fan of RZ. If he went back and messed with the original movie then I would be PO'd, but he didn't. God made us in his own image. Are you mad at him for that too.
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Excellent point. People always get all up in arms when someone remakes a classic. But the remake does not REPLACE the original, it is still there for you to watch anytime you feel like it.
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While I can't disagree with anyone dubbed "godzilla rules", I do have to say that, while you make a good point, I'm a fan of the Halloween series so I HAVE to see each new entry. Much like F13th, there really wasn't anywhere for the series to go other than being remade. I think it's more that old school fans, like myself, want more of the films we love the way we loved them. It's impossible to expect new entries to live up to what we hold most dear, but when I see Zombie take things in such a drastic new direction it's slightly disappointing. That being said, H2 certainly looks like it will easily be the most bizarre Halloween film to date. Watching it will be an experience, I'm sure.
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While you certainly make points that anyone can agree with you can't expect everyone to love the fact that they (shittily) remade what is probably the greatest horror movie of all time (it's debatable)..
IN FACT, Zombie himself said this in '02.
So, even he knows he's a money-grubbing asshole.
IN FACT, Zombie himself said this in '02.
Originally Posted by Rob Zombie
“I feel it’s the worst thing any filmmaker can do. I actually got a call from my agent and they asked me if I wanted to be involved in a remake of CHAINSAW. I said no fucking way! Those movies are perfect — you’re only going to make yourself look like an asshole by remaking them. Go remake something that’s a piece of shit and make it good. Like with my movie I have elements of CHAINSAW in it because I love that movie so much, but I wouldn’t dare want to “remake” it. It’s like a band trying to be another band.”
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Seriously, I didn't want to see a frame by frame remake of the original. That's just dumb. The fact that Zombie did something different was fine by me. I liked his 'vision' of Halloween, although I still think the original is far far superior. It didn't ruin the experience for me.
That's not to say that Zombie's Halloween didn't have issues... it certainly did. But it was definitely an entertaining entry and still one of the best entries to the franchise in a long long time.
That's not to say that Zombie's Halloween didn't have issues... it certainly did. But it was definitely an entertaining entry and still one of the best entries to the franchise in a long long time.
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Why not remake something that you can top? Or something that you can expound on? A good candidate was My Bloody Valentine. Due to some well done 3D, the remake was enjoyable enough, if quickly forgettable, but it was a film that could have topped the original, which was good by 80's slasher standards, but certainly not an untoppable piece of filmmaking art.
I tend to agree with the pre-take the money and run Zombie...you just look like an asshole if you try to remake something that is universally considered a classic. The only place to go is down.
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Looking back now, while I can still enjoy the film, I like many others am sick of the trailer trash angle he places in his films - yeah he got away with it yet again in Halloween but it only marginally works to show that Michael is from a broken home.
The new trailer for the sequel definitely looks promising as well.
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That new trailer is awesome - very creepy and atmospheric.
I have no doubt Zombie will deliver a solid entry to the series (as he did with the first).
And I agree 100% with godzilla rules' post
All the bitching and moaning about an oversized coat (and now the car flipping) is pretty laughable, if you ask me.
I have no doubt Zombie will deliver a solid entry to the series (as he did with the first).
And I agree 100% with godzilla rules' post
All the bitching and moaning about an oversized coat (and now the car flipping) is pretty laughable, if you ask me.
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I agree with this. Had he portrayed the family as a typical middle-class suburban family (as portrayed in the novel (if I recall correctly), it would have been FAR more disturbing and effective.
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So, someone who has seen the film posted a VERY spoiler-heavy review. I read it because, well... frankly, I've already written this movie off as shit. And judging by the review, I was giving it too much credit. But I'm still going to see it because it sounds like such a fantastic train wreck.
Here's the thread where he answers MANY questions:
http://broadwayworld.com/board/readm...dt=1&boardid=2
Spoiler:
Here's the thread where he answers MANY questions:
http://broadwayworld.com/board/readm...dt=1&boardid=2
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well since i know some of you had to know
Rated R for Strong brutal bloody violence throughout, terror, disturbing graphic images, language, some crude sexual content and nudity
Rated R for Strong brutal bloody violence throughout, terror, disturbing graphic images, language, some crude sexual content and nudity
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WTF.
Sounds like garbage...but I'll see it.
Question - I've seen the first Zombie flick a few times in different forms (Theatrical, Directors and Workpint) but didn't Loomis die?
Sounds like garbage...but I'll see it.
Question - I've seen the first Zombie flick a few times in different forms (Theatrical, Directors and Workpint) but didn't Loomis die?
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remember, if you want the Weinstein Company to survive YOU WILL SEE THIS IN THEATERS!
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Well they always have that movie 9 coming out, which will prob be a mild hit with older people (as it is a musical) and itll prob give them some oscar nods
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Do you mean District 9? If so, that's Sony I believe. Weinstein has no Theatrical titles except H2 and some of Inglorious Basterds. All other theatrical films have been scrapped/pushed to see if H2 kills them.
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District 9 isn't a musical. I think he meant that movie about the weird like sock puppets or whatever with Martin Landau and all those people. Although I didn't know that was a musical either.
If you think that would save Weinstein there's no way. I'm anticipating being the only one in the theaters for that one.
If you think that would save Weinstein there's no way. I'm anticipating being the only one in the theaters for that one.
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wait, did the rob marshall "9" get pushed back till later? i could have sworn they were wanting to release that in like nov or dec for awards season
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Wow. Never heard of this before until now. This is more "9 Movies" than we had in 1999.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_(film)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_(film)