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OK, merged.
I was out celebrating a bit last night.
I was out celebrating a bit last night.
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I saw it last night -- better than what I expected (though not by much). My biggest gripe: a terrible villain (agree with DVDTalk review above).
The highlight for me was the opera sequence -- tense throughout and well-staged.
Overall though, as a follow-up to Casino Royale, it is a letdown.
The highlight for me was the opera sequence -- tense throughout and well-staged.
Overall though, as a follow-up to Casino Royale, it is a letdown.
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I enjoyed the film quite a bit. Yes, Marc Forster was an odd and not entirely satisfying choice to direct, but Quantum of Solace is still better than any of the Roger Moore films or any of the Brosnan flicks outside of Goldeneye.
My biggest gripes are: 1. Greene's evil plot is poorly defined and not very menacing and 2. The film mostly feels like it exists to tie up the loose ends of Casino Royale. My second gripe probably exists because of the first; without an interesting scheme by the current villain, all we have to worry about are the consequences of the actions from the past movie.
Without Martin Campbell coming back, I immediately dialed down my expectations. Hell, the last time I can think of two or more genuinely great Bond films appearing back to back was during the Connery days, so I really wasn't expecting this one to match or exceed Casino Royale. It doesn't, but I still enjoy this new Bond and am hopeful that the next one will be a more epic and classical Bond affair.
Edit: And one other thing, by the way this movie is constructed, it seems like MI6 consists only of Bond, M, and an analyst. Guess the tight economy hit British intelligence as well.
My biggest gripes are: 1. Greene's evil plot is poorly defined and not very menacing and 2. The film mostly feels like it exists to tie up the loose ends of Casino Royale. My second gripe probably exists because of the first; without an interesting scheme by the current villain, all we have to worry about are the consequences of the actions from the past movie.
Without Martin Campbell coming back, I immediately dialed down my expectations. Hell, the last time I can think of two or more genuinely great Bond films appearing back to back was during the Connery days, so I really wasn't expecting this one to match or exceed Casino Royale. It doesn't, but I still enjoy this new Bond and am hopeful that the next one will be a more epic and classical Bond affair.
Edit: And one other thing, by the way this movie is constructed, it seems like MI6 consists only of Bond, M, and an analyst. Guess the tight economy hit British intelligence as well.
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I enjoyed it.
Craig is the best Bond.
One thing I would criticize is they obviously wanted to try and emulate the Oscar winning, and really incredible editing from the third 'Bourne' film, but they didn't pull it off nearly as well. This director can't run in that pack.
I liked The Opera too.
Craig is the best Bond.
One thing I would criticize is they obviously wanted to try and emulate the Oscar winning, and really incredible editing from the third 'Bourne' film, but they didn't pull it off nearly as well. This director can't run in that pack.
I liked The Opera too.
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I liked it. It wasn't even close to Casino Royale but it was very enjoyable. I know many probably didn't care for the villain but I liked him quite a bit more than the last guy. Like a lot of Bond villains lately, he was a weasel. But he knew his role and played it well.
The Opera scene was probably my favorite scene. I thought it was edited pretty well.
Overall, it was pretty good.
The Opera scene was probably my favorite scene. I thought it was edited pretty well.
Overall, it was pretty good.
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Well, Daniel Craig was on Jimmy Kimmel last night and he said the there may be more "gadgets" in the next Bond film. I gotta be honest, this kinda bothered me.
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I thought the goal of this reboot was to start Bond off as green but gritty, then develop him into the suave, sophisticated, and experienced agent we know and love. So it would make sense that as we get further away from Casino Royale, we'd see more of the Bond trademarks fall into place, and that included gadgets. I think as long as we stay away from invisible cars, we'll probably be okay.
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I thought the goal of this reboot was to start Bond off as green but gritty, then develop him into the suave, sophisticated, and experienced agent we know and love. So it would make sense that as we get further away from Casino Royale, we'd see more of the Bond trademarks fall into place, and that included gadgets. I think as long as we stay away from invisible cars, we'll probably be okay.
I guess my concern is it will go over the top as Craig gets more Bond Films under his belt. I don't mind "gadgets" if they're practical, somewhat limited as far as their presence, and have some base in reality. But frankly, I would prefer to not see them.
I guess I'll go back to skipping Bond films when he starts getting all "gadgeted up" and starts spitting out lame one liners every 5 minute.
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Well, if QoS is anything to go by, it'll be a long time before we're at that point. This movie had no gadgets other than phones, and maybe two one-liners in the whole thing.
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Sounds good. Now that I think about it , he had some one liners in CR but for some reason they didn't come across as corny. I guess I should have remembered that since I've seen CR like 10 or 15 times.
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I'm not saying that Moonraker is a great Bond film by any stretch, but to eliminate all of the elements I mentioned above makes one wonder, why bother calling it a Bond film at all? There are plenty of good, generic action flicks out there. Bond always offered something more. But with this film, even the reviews I've read that were fairly positive were quick to admit that the "Bond-as-Bourne" critics are justified in their complaints.
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Well, I enjoyed it. No one will ever rate this higher than "Casino Royale". How could it be better? Those were some big shoes to match. And, yes, Marc Forster was a truly odd choice for this project. And I love his films. But he's never done anything remotely close to this before. Still, hats off to the guy. The action scenes were superb. I also liked that Judie Dench had more scenes in this film. She's always great. And the lead actress is beautiful. Overall, I'd give it an 8/10.
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Solid movie. Liked CR better...but I still enjoyed QoS immensely. Some awkward dialogue but Craig is great as the new hard-ass Bond. Looking forward to seeing/hearing this on Blu-ray.
I'll go with 8/10 with CR getting a 9. I either like the movies or hate them these days and this passed the test.
I'll go with 8/10 with CR getting a 9. I either like the movies or hate them these days and this passed the test.
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I forgot to mention, I really liked the "we have people everywhere" scene.
That was done very well. You have an idea of who is in control, and things are proceeding, the scene is progressing in a fairly typical fashion, and then...
That was done very well. You have an idea of who is in control, and things are proceeding, the scene is progressing in a fairly typical fashion, and then...
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Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
forgot to mention, I really liked the "we have people everywhere" scene.
That was done very well. You have an idea of who is in control, and things are proceeding, the scene is progressing in a fairly typical fashion, and then...
That was done very well. You have an idea of who is in control, and things are proceeding, the scene is progressing in a fairly typical fashion, and then...
Originally Posted by Brian Orndorf
Any audience member who can make sense of the monochromatic mayhem underneath all the breakneck cutting deserves a medal and a signed Daniel Craig photo.
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Marc Forster can't shoot action for shit. The action scenes tried to emulate the tight, tense and fast pace of the Bourne series, but YOU COULD HARDLY TELL WHAT WAS HAPPENING because there were no LONG SHOTS... We never get the geography of the action sequences, therefore the stuff that is supposed to thrill and be exciting feels like no big deal.
I really think the action scenes were a HUGE letdown - they are great in concept and a few shots (like in the trailer) really WOW you, but as a whole, they just DON'T WORK. They're confusing, muddled and in desperate need of wider shots where we can see what is happening.
The cast does what they can, but we never get invested in Olga's character (hell, I don't even recall her name and I just saw it 20 minutes ago), I feel like they must have cut some character development stuff to quicken the pace, which felt sluggish anyhow. Greene and Quantum are shitty villains and the last scene was predictable and a letdown.... don't give us a rough, no holds barred James Bond only to cut his balls off in the last scene... Certainly not the worst Bond movie, but after Casino Royale, this is a HUGE disappointment. Thank God Forster isn't back for the next one...maybe they can get a director who knows how to make action sequences EXCITING and raise the stakes so we actually feel a sense of danger and urgency...or at the very least, give us something FUN.
FUCK.
I really think the action scenes were a HUGE letdown - they are great in concept and a few shots (like in the trailer) really WOW you, but as a whole, they just DON'T WORK. They're confusing, muddled and in desperate need of wider shots where we can see what is happening.
The cast does what they can, but we never get invested in Olga's character (hell, I don't even recall her name and I just saw it 20 minutes ago), I feel like they must have cut some character development stuff to quicken the pace, which felt sluggish anyhow. Greene and Quantum are shitty villains and the last scene was predictable and a letdown.... don't give us a rough, no holds barred James Bond only to cut his balls off in the last scene... Certainly not the worst Bond movie, but after Casino Royale, this is a HUGE disappointment. Thank God Forster isn't back for the next one...maybe they can get a director who knows how to make action sequences EXCITING and raise the stakes so we actually feel a sense of danger and urgency...or at the very least, give us something FUN.
FUCK.
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the big 'O' gives it a "rent it": http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/35416/quantum-of-solace/
I was wondering where my medal and signed photo were, too
In general, I quite liked it. But I never liked the original Bond, so take that as you will. I get the feeling jeffkjoe is right from what I've read--this is Bond as Fleming envisioned him.
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