Really pretentious directors?
09-16-08 | 07:52 AM
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I could say that Michael Snow and Matthew Barney are pretentious, but that's stating the obvious.
11-10-09 | 12:00 PM
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Re: Really pretentious directors?
/facepalm
Cameron's populist, everyman approach to filmmaking is everything BUT "pretentious".
People are just turning this into a list of directors they don't like.
Cameron's populist, everyman approach to filmmaking is everything BUT "pretentious".
People are just turning this into a list of directors they don't like.
11-10-09 | 12:09 PM
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Re: Really pretentious directors?
Elfman was working on the score for Spider-Man 3. Raimi was using a cue from Hellraiser in his temp track. He liked it so much that he asked Elfman to basically do a rewrite of it for the film. Elfman balked, said he had better things in mind than a reworking of some other guy's score. Raimi insisted, Elfman still refused. Raimi then had Sony secure the rights for the Hellraiser cue and inserted it into the film as is. Elfman was so outraged at this that he quit, and Raimi ended up hiring the guy who actually composed the score for Hellraiser to score all of Spider-Man 3 (a score I enjoy, actually).
Edit: Actually, Raimi might have fired Elfman for not doing what he wanted. I don't remember exactly how Elfman was saying it went down, but he has vowed never to work with Raimi again.
Edit: Actually, Raimi might have fired Elfman for not doing what he wanted. I don't remember exactly how Elfman was saying it went down, but he has vowed never to work with Raimi again.
11-10-09 | 12:19 PM
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Re: Really pretentious directors?
If that's true, then Danny Elfman sounds worse to me than Sam Raimi. It's not unusual for a director to ask for different music in a film's score from what a composer initially delivers. After all, it's Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 3, not Danny Elfman's. So Elfman sounds like a bit of a prima donna in his refusal to change things.
These are Elfman's words on the subject:
Elfman: My connection to Sam got completely severed. As far as I’m concerned, he went to sleep and somebody put a pod next to him and when he awoke, he wasn’t the same person I’ve known for a decade.
Chud: Will you work with him again?
Elfman: No. He went from right there, number 2 on my list of favorite directors, to the last – to the exact opposite of everything I look for in a film experience. Everything I could do on Spider-Man 1 I couldn’t do on Spider-Man 2. He got so intensely attached to the temp music, I couldn’t even adapt my own music. I couldn’t get close enough to me.
It’s the first time I’ve ever walked from a director in twenty years, and hopefully the last time. He became intolerable. I’ve been on some heavy duty films, so to say that it had to be pretty bad. I have been in war zones you wouldn’t believe in 55 films. But this is the first time I’ve said, I’ve had it. It’s just not worth it. I would rather go back to waiting tables than to do Spider-Man 2 again.
Chud: Will you work with him again?
Elfman: No. He went from right there, number 2 on my list of favorite directors, to the last – to the exact opposite of everything I look for in a film experience. Everything I could do on Spider-Man 1 I couldn’t do on Spider-Man 2. He got so intensely attached to the temp music, I couldn’t even adapt my own music. I couldn’t get close enough to me.
It’s the first time I’ve ever walked from a director in twenty years, and hopefully the last time. He became intolerable. I’ve been on some heavy duty films, so to say that it had to be pretty bad. I have been in war zones you wouldn’t believe in 55 films. But this is the first time I’ve said, I’ve had it. It’s just not worth it. I would rather go back to waiting tables than to do Spider-Man 2 again.
11-10-09 | 02:11 PM
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11-10-09 | 03:23 PM
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Re: Really pretentious directors?
A question for you all: if someone makes self-important movies that take pride in confusing the less sophisticated theater-goers, but is fun to talk to in person, is that director pretentious?
People are answering the OP question two different ways: "Does the director create pretentious movies?" or "Is the director pretentious in person?" Since I'm much more likely to see a movie than to talk to a director, I'd answer the first way. I'm a bit confused by the people who ignore the movies.
People are answering the OP question two different ways: "Does the director create pretentious movies?" or "Is the director pretentious in person?" Since I'm much more likely to see a movie than to talk to a director, I'd answer the first way. I'm a bit confused by the people who ignore the movies.
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11-10-09 | 04:26 PM
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11-10-09 | 04:50 PM
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11-10-09 | 05:24 PM
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Re: Really pretentious directors?
All of them, except John Ford:
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11-10-09 | 08:51 PM
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