Explain: American Psycho
12-09-09 | 01:38 PM
#51
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Re: Explain: American Psycho
Read the book. The movie is mediocre at best.
12-09-09 | 01:42 PM
#52
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12-09-09 | 05:42 PM
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Re: Explain: American Psycho
There is an idea of a patrick bateman but in the end its still just an idea. he says this at the begining of the flim when he peels off the mask. HE IS NOT REAL!!! "I think therefore i am" patrick bateman doesnt even think that there is a patrick bateman. think about it haha 
So essentially according to your theory, NOTHING even happened in the movie. How is there a movie or book without Bateman.
He never actually quotes it like you say.
There is an idea of a Patrick Bateman; some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me: only an entity, something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable... I simply am not there.
12-09-09 | 07:23 PM
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Re: Explain: American Psycho
I found the book to be one of the most enjoyable reading experiences of the past year. I highly recommend it. You really get into Patrick's head.
12-09-09 | 07:35 PM
#56
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Re: Explain: American Psycho
I found the book to be a slog, for the exact reason that Ellis puts the same priority on the most mundane things as he does the horrific acts Patrick engages in. It's like reading somebody's shopping list and finding "dead babies" sandwiched between "pasta shells" and "mayonnaise." Of course, that's what is brilliant about it (the sequence where he freaks out while buying a tie is hilarious in its heightened sense of paranoia), but it's not exactly an easy to read book.
12-09-09 | 08:20 PM
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Re: Explain: American Psycho
Bateman is a replicant.
12-09-09 | 08:52 PM
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Re: Explain: American Psycho
12-10-09 | 12:20 AM
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Re: Explain: American Psycho
I found that the movie was made so much more enjoyable after having read the book. It just adds such depth; more so than any other adaption I have encountered.
12-10-09 | 12:36 AM
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Re: Explain: American Psycho
Patrick Bateman is a ghost. He died early in the film after exchanging business cards. He suffered a massive paper cut (he bled to death in his sleep... off screen). Notice how no one really interacts with him directly in the later scenes.
12-12-09 | 12:21 AM
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Re: Explain: American Psycho
There was a post that brought this up, but I want to re-address it since I have had Donnie Darko on my mind tonight -- if the public receives the movie as ambiguous and debates the hell out of the opposing points of view, and then the director comes out and says "This is the way it was and I tried very hard to make that clear" ... did the director fail on an epic level or succeed accidentally?
12-12-09 | 01:21 AM
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Re: Explain: American Psycho
Unless the movie is not very good, I say succeeded accidently.
Any movie that's enjoyable on a surface level, but stimulates further discussion about possible meanings due to certain ambiguities is quite an accomplishment in my opinion.
I have my own ideas of movies that might fit that description. What movies other than Donnie Darko are like this?
Any movie that's enjoyable on a surface level, but stimulates further discussion about possible meanings due to certain ambiguities is quite an accomplishment in my opinion.
I have my own ideas of movies that might fit that description. What movies other than Donnie Darko are like this?
12-12-09 | 01:23 AM
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Re: Explain: American Psycho
In the case of Donnie Darko, I think the theatrical cut is a complete failure in trying to convey the director's intentions. I remember listening to the commentary, and hearing the director talk about what was happening, and it sounded like a completely different movie. However, it's still a very good movie, just not in the way the director intended. The director's cut is more in line, obviously, with what he wanted.
12-12-09 | 01:35 AM
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Re: Explain: American Psycho
I forgot what he said in the commentary, what'd he say was supposed to happen?
In the movie, I thought
In the movie, I thought
Spoiler:
Last edited by brayzie; 12-12-09 at 02:00 AM.
12-12-09 | 01:40 AM
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Re: Explain: American Psycho
It's been a long time since I listened to the commentary, but the movie Kelley describes is very different from the theatrical cut.
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