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TheMovieman 01-22-11 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10602843)
What happened to Chicago? That city has been the heart and soul of Nolan's Gotham. :(

Not sure. There are reports they're going to do some shooting in Detroit instead, but not entire sure if that's true or not. But I think Chicago might be out for whatever reason. But I kind of disagree. While yes it worked great in Batman Begins and turning Chicago into Gotham, that magic was gone from The Dark Knight and it just looked like Chicago.

wm lopez 01-22-11 08:25 PM

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On Chicago location:
I do know that they are raising taxes here in Chicago on all sort of stuff and we have Rahm Emanuel running for mayor this year and if he wins. Well, you can bet he will run Chicago like Obama wants to run this country. So maybe it could be the taxes on filming here.
But TRANSFORMERS 3 filmed last year and they had that accident so I wonder if that has something to do with it. Chicago is a strong union town.

Groucho 01-22-11 08:30 PM

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:lol: If you were less verbose I would have been more diligent about keeping that twitter account alive.

gmanca 01-22-11 08:34 PM

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Hah, thanks for the correction TheMovieman! Damn these internet rumors! Sorry KillerCannibal!

big e 01-22-11 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 10601495)
^ unfortunately Hathaway's rack isn't that impressive.

Hathaway's rack is a lot more impressive than Pfeiffer's IMO.

I'm not sure what I should think about her casting. On one hand, I think she is more attractive than Pfeiffer (who I never found to be very pretty) and she does seem to have a decent body for Catwoman, which I found Pfeiffer to be lacking (too scrawny). On the other hand, I've only seen Hathaway in 1 move (Get Smart), so I can't comment on her acting abilities, but I'm gonna trust Nolan on this. A lot of people weren't on board with Heath Ledger being the Joker, but now I can't think of anyone else but Ledger in that role.

Dr. DVD 01-22-11 09:18 PM

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Big racks do not a good actress make....but they help.

RocShemp 01-22-11 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMovieman (Post 10602846)
Not sure. There are reports they're going to do some shooting in Detroit instead, but not entire sure if that's true or not. But I think Chicago might be out for whatever reason. But I kind of disagree. While yes it worked great in Batman Begins and turning Chicago into Gotham, that magic was gone from The Dark Knight and it just looked like Chicago.

That's because they got real lazy (in terms of production design) in TDK. Suppoosedly they wanted to look like Gotham was being modernized between movies (pretty fast turnaround for an entire city if the two movies are supposed to be six months appart) but it just wreaked of lazyness in that regard.

TheMovieman 01-22-11 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 10603069)
That's because they got real lazy (in terms of production design) in TDK. suppoosedly they wanted to look like Gotham was being modernized between movies (pretty fast turnaround for an entire movie if the two movies are supposed to be six months appart) but it just wreaked of lazyness in that regard.

Doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I loved TDK but that part kind of urked me. I'm not a big Tim Burton fan, liked the first one, was displeased with Batman Returns, but at least he gave Gotham its own identity/character (and with the Narrows, BB had an identity). Hopefully they get back to giving Gotham its own unique look.

RocShemp 01-22-11 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMovieman (Post 10603102)
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I loved TDK but that part kind of urked me. I'm not a big Tim Burton fan, liked the first one, was displeased with Batman Returns, but at least he gave Gotham its own identity/character (and with the Narrows, BB had an identity). Hopefully they get back to giving Gotham its own unique look.

As I said, lazy. They made Gotham feel like a modern city with old world roots in BB. It was great because, as you said, it made the city unique. But it also remained believable. In TDK, it just looked like I was watching Batman's adventures in Chicago (plus a brief detour in Hong Kong).

Although a tad unfair, the following screenshot sums up my feelings regarding the look of Gotham City in TDK:



;)

TheMovieman 01-23-11 12:44 AM

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^ lol, yeah, I remember seeing that cap before and people assumed those kinds of signs would've been digitally altered.

JTH182 01-23-11 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by wm lopez (Post 10602894)
On Chicago location:
I do know that they are raising taxes here in Chicago on all sort of stuff and we have Rahm Emanuel running for mayor this year and if he wins. Well, you can bet he will run Chicago like Obama wants to run this country. So maybe it could be the taxes on filming here.
But TRANSFORMERS 3 filmed last year and they had that accident so I wonder if that has something to do with it. Chicago is a strong union town.

Just knowing you live in Chicago make's Rahm's inevitable win that much sweeter!

Solid Snake 01-23-11 02:59 AM

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You should meet wm lopez, JTH182. I can't tell if he's actually serious or just really good at fucking w/ us.

DthRdrX 01-23-11 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 10603135)
As I said, lazy. They made Gotham feel like a modern city with old world roots in BB. It was great because, as you said, it made the city unique. But it also remained believable. In TDK, it just looked like I was watching Batman's adventures in Chicago (plus a brief detour in Hong Kong).

Although a tad unfair, the following screenshot sums up my feelings regarding the look of Gotham City in TDK:

;)

I'm still trying to figure out why they didn;t at least keep the same look for Wayne Tower.

I also dug the city more in Begins. Maybe Nolan wanted people to connect more with Joker's terroristic plots, hence the use of a identifable city? Who knows.

resinrats 01-23-11 12:21 PM

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I was fine with Gotham's look in BB & TDK. DIdn't really think about the change in look. I just took it as being in different parts of the city. I personally hate when movie makers try to make it look 'like the comic'. Look at Batman Forever & Batman & Robin. Highways 40 stories up. 200 foot statues for no apparent reason. I was reading Batman comics around that time. None of these were in the comics. Gotham more or less looked like NYC. Just because it is based on a comic doesn't mean it can't look real world.

DaveyJoe 01-23-11 12:29 PM

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You guys ever been to a big city? It can look completely different after walking just a few blocks. Batman Begins focused on The Narrows, which were essentially slums, while TDK focused on wealthier, more metropolitan areas. The fact that The Dark Knight filmed on location more than sound stages is a good thing in my opinion.

As for continuity, look at the Tumbler/Slaughter truck scene, that same area was used in Batman Begins.

As for the image with Chicago printed on the building, I've seen the movie dozens of times and never noticed that while watching. I wouldn't exactly call it a flaw and laugh at the oversights of the filmmakers if you have to freeze the image just to notice it.

Solid Snake 01-23-11 12:33 PM

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It's a hit or miss kind of detail in you actually seeing it. I never noticed it but...it's in there for a while. It's like a 2 sec. shot so....you can easily see it if your eyes wander to the right.

DaveyJoe 01-23-11 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 10603648)
It's a hit or miss kind of detail in you actually seeing it. I never noticed it but...it's in there for a while. It's like a 2 sec. shot so....you can easily see it if your eyes wander to the right.

Hmm, now that I know about it, it's probably all I'll be able to think about during that scene.:lol:

Seriously though, I can't agree with any complaints about the look of Gotham in TDK. I saw the flick in IMAX and the wide shots of Gotham were my favorite part of that experience. They were absolutely breathtaking.

TheMovieman 01-23-11 03:28 PM

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Not saying they didn't look good but I just didn't have the same feeling about it being Gotham. It absolutely looked like Chicago... I didn't have that same feeling while watching Batman Begins even though certainly used many of Chicago's iconic buildings.

Solid Snake 01-23-11 05:16 PM

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see....I dunno...to me I liked that Gotham looked like a real city in TDK. I wasn't really amazed by whatever shots we had of inner Gotham or whatever unless it was the Narrows or just the crime ridden parts.

Troy Stiffler 01-23-11 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 10603337)
You should meet wm lopez, JTH182. I can't tell if he's actually serious or just really good at fucking w/ us.

Whoa. That is one of the most dangerous idea's I've ever heard.

wm lopez 01-23-11 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JTH182 (Post 10603321)
Just knowing you live in Chicago make's Rahm's inevitable win that much sweeter!

Rahm is part of the machine that has us having to feed the parking meter on Sundays and holidays. My point in this is that movie producers don't want to be suckered to film a movie for it's location.

GenPion 01-23-11 08:43 PM

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Am I the only one disappointed by the casting of Anne Hathaway? She's a good actress (and as mentioned by at least half of you in this thread -- totally gorgeous) but I really can't see her in this kind of role. I'm not 100% sold on the idea. Maybe it's simply time for me to be surprised again. I never doubted Nolan's choice to cast Heath Ledger if only because I trust him as a film-maker, but that still didn't prepare me (or anyone else) for what he would bring to his role as The Joker.

Tarantino 01-23-11 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GenPion (Post 10604817)
Am I the only one disappointed by the casting of Anne Hathaway? She's a good actress (and as mentioned by at least half of you in this thread -- totally gorgeous) but I really can't see her in this kind of role. I'm not 100% sold on the idea. Maybe it's simply time for me to be surprised again. I never doubted Nolan's choice to cast Heath Ledger if only because I trust him as a film-maker, but that still didn't prepare me (or anyone else) for what he would bring to his role as The Joker.

My first thought: "Anne Hathaway?"

My second thought "Oh, I remember feeling the same way when I heard Ledget was going to play the Joker."

I trust Nolan's judgement.

Solid Snake 01-23-11 09:26 PM

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I have no emotion in approval or disapproval for Hathaway. I trust Nolan will do good w/ her...unless he fails that somehow cuz he's on a damn fine streak right now. Her casting is not shocking to me but surprising because.....I can only think of her in so little "adult" work that I care about. That work being Brokeback Mountain and Rachel Getting Married.

candyrocket786 01-23-11 10:32 PM

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I thought she was great in "Love and Other Drugs". :eyebrow:


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