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Old 07-23-08 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by big whoppa
As unpopular as this is going to be, I prefer the Burton Batman to Nolan's. I haven't seen the Dark Knight but I was very bored by Batman Begins. There's Burton's vision, Jack Nicholson, Kim Basinger, and the great music by Prince. What's to hate? I loved it so much I had to read the book. Now, that takes a lot!!

The love for Nolan's Batman may be in part due to it being current. Of course, the older ones are going to look a little cheesy when you compare. Burton's Batman was 20 years ago. And well, the Adam West Batman was a completely different era.
I still like Burton's Batman over Begins...however, The Dark Knight blows all of them away.
Old 07-23-08 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by big whoppa
What's to hate?
Originally Posted by big whoppa
...the annoying and unnecessary music by Prince.
Fixed.

As much I like Tim Burton's Batman movies, Batman comes off as more of a vigilante. In Nolan's movies, he feels a lot more like a hero.

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Old 07-23-08 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Cornelius1047
Fixed.

As much I like Tim Burton's Batman movies, Batman comes off as more of a vigilante. In Nolan's movies, he feels a lot more like a hero.

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Funny you should say that, because the vigilante aspect of what Batman is doing is touched on much more in The Dark Knight than any other Batman film.

I'm not disagreeing with you though.
Old 07-23-08 | 09:27 PM
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True. And it seems a lot more realistic and relevant. It just doesn't sit well with me that Batman kills The Joker in the first Burton movie and what do the police do? Give a press conference basically saying, "Hey, he may be a killer, but he's working for us now. Here's his sign!" At least, in the end, Batman Returns seemed to have a moral code in place, when Batman was trying to talk Catwoman out of killing Max.

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Old 07-23-08 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Cornelius1047
True. And it seems a lot more realistic and relevant. It just doesn't sit well with me that Batman kills The Joker in the first Burton movie and what do the police do? Give a press conference basically saying, "Hey, he may be a killer, but he's working for us now. Here's his sign!" At least, in the end, Batman Returns seemed to have a moral code in place, when Batman was trying to talk Catwoman out of killing Max.

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After roasting one dude with the Batmobile's engine and sticking dynamite on another dude's belly and chipping him in the sewer....


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Old 07-23-08 | 11:03 PM
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Everyone knows clowns aren't human beings. If you have a chance to kill a clown, it is not only your right, but your duty to do so.

Which, I guess, lets him off the hook for The Joker.

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Old 07-23-08 | 11:31 PM
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(Adam West on Christian Bale and being in a new Batman movie): "I think he’s really very good. I’d love to play his father. The older Batman comes out of the woodwork, when times get really tough…maybe a few tips here and there.”
...except for the part where Batman's parents are DEAD.
Old 07-24-08 | 12:01 AM
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...except for the part where Batman's parents are DEAD.
lol

how didnt anyone catch that before?
Old 07-24-08 | 12:18 AM
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Honestly, that was exactly what I thought, but Adam West, as far as Batman is concerned, has always kinda been the drunk uncle who was cool for like a minute a long-ass time ago. I didn't want to justify his ridiculous comments with a response.

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Old 07-24-08 | 12:35 AM
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West has always kind of bothered me. I know he is an important part in the history of Batman, but he just hasnt kept up to date with the character and his current status. In his mind, his 60's version was better on all fronts, and i think thats a silly way to think.

He should certainly be proud of his work on the show and what he did for Batman on a cultural level, but he needs to realize that Batman has changed in the eyes of the public. We dont want the campy cheese anymore, and i really dont think he gets that.
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Originally Posted by Cornelius1047
True. And it seems a lot more realistic and relevant. It just doesn't sit well with me that Batman kills The Joker in the first Burton movie and what do the police do? Give a press conference basically saying, "Hey, he may be a killer, but he's working for us now. Here's his sign!" At least, in the end, Batman Returns seemed to have a moral code in place, when Batman was trying to talk Catwoman out of killing Max.

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Plus, Joker was trying to kill Batman and Vicki. Self-defense.
Old 07-24-08 | 01:50 AM
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Plus, Joker was trying to kill Batman and Vicki. Self-defense.
Well, he could've tried harder. As soon as the ladder dropped down, he stopped trying to kill them. His own self-interest and/or preservation was far more important than making sure Batman and Vicki Vale died. Realistically, as far as I'm concerned, it becomes more about vengence and less about "self-defense" at some point. I don't know. It just seemed like he could've waited for another chance to "catch" him and turn him over to the authorities (eventhough this, realistically, might've put more people at jeopardy in the future). And besides, Batman basically declared his mission at the start when he said: "I'm going to kill you."

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Old 07-24-08 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NiCK Crush
West has always kind of bothered me. I know he is an important part in the history of Batman, but he just hasnt kept up to date with the character and his current status. In his mind, his 60's version was better on all fronts, and i think thats a silly way to think.

Don't quote me but I think Caesar Romero felt the same way when asked how his Joker (the original) compared to the then current Joker played by Jack Nicholson.



I just read on Wiki that he was gay. I never knew.

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