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hapgilmore 05-19-08 08:29 AM

Better Movie: The Lost World or Jurassic Park 3
 
IMO Lost World is underrated. In some ways I feel it is better than the original. JP3, however, is pretty bad. What is everyone else's take?

RichC2 05-19-08 08:31 AM

Really no point in comparing stool samples... JP2 had hints of that Spielberg charm though, so I guess it wins.

Jaymole 05-19-08 08:32 AM

No comparison, JP3 is much worse.

BravesMG 05-19-08 08:43 AM

I'll freely admit I'm an unabashed homer for anything Jurassic Park, and I give the slight edge to JP2. It's close though, it always bugged me that Goldblum should never have been given the lead in JP2 and that's more evident after Neill taking up the reins in JP3.

JP3 was a little tighter on the pacing and action but I did enjoy the sprawling ridiculousness of JP2, especially DINO LOOSE IN THE CITY.

coli 05-19-08 08:50 AM

They are both crappy sequels, but JP3 is pure crap, while JP2 is atleast entertaining, mainly cause Spielberg rarely puts out shit, just some mediocre stuff once in a while. The dinosaurs are always going to be entertaining to people, it is the relationships that will make the movie good or bad, and the William H Macy/Tea Leone relationship is pretty bad in JP3. I don't know why some directors just can't develop good relationships on screen, as Spielberg is usually pretty good at this.

Sorry for the long answer: JP3 is worse.

chris_sc77 05-19-08 08:55 AM

Lost World is a very good movie. It has Problems but so Does JP.
JP3 is horrendous. I barely classify JP3 as a movie. Its only like 80 minutes long and when I was in theaters watching and it ended I got very depressed and felt like I had just been robbed. ALso it manages to have the worst effects of all 3 films which is surprising cause I thought effects were supposed to get better with the passage of time. Also no Goldblum in JP3 s a big negative.

MBoyd 05-19-08 08:58 AM

Not a big fan of any of them, but I like the 3rd the best. I think I appreciate it's shortness. I absolutely hated Lost World when I saw it.

Wolf359 05-19-08 09:01 AM

I love Lost World. The whole setpiece with the T-Rexes knocking the trailer over the edge of the cliff was great. Never understood the low ratings for this one.

notkevinbacon 05-19-08 09:18 AM

JP2 is far superior. Better set pieces and J. Goldblum factor.

JP3 was awful. The T-Rex gets mauled in the beginning... if that's not bad enough, there's that talking dinosaur. I don't care if it's a dream sequence. It's ridiculous.

Michael Corvin 05-19-08 09:19 AM

:shrug: I'll stand alone in liking 3 over Lost World. The premise for LW is better but the ridiculousness of San Diego, not to mention gymnastic girl taking out raptors really hurts the film.

JP3 was an unabashed monster flick from opening credits to closing crawl. No preconceived notions of morality or deep character development. It didn't try and be anything but. I think it succeeded at what it set out to do. I can accept it for what it is. What I can't accept is the abrupt ending, but the aviary scene with the Pteradactyls made up for it, IMO.


Originally Posted by chris_sc77
JP3 is horrendous. I barely classify JP3 as a movie. Its only like 80 minutes long and when I was in theaters watching and it ended I got very depressed and felt like I had just been robbed.

:lol: I think someone pointed out in another thread how much of a stickler you are for movie length. Too funny.

*edit - looks like I stand with MBoyd on this one.

matome 05-19-08 09:45 AM

Another vote for JP3. Lost World was overlong and the kiddie and PC factor was on overdrive in that one. About the only things I remember from it was the good hanging trailer scene and, as Michael mentioned, the gymanst thing which was just annoying as hell to me. I don't remember too much from JP3 either, but it was fast paced and had more dinos than annoying characters, which I liked. Neither comes close to the original.

BravesMG 05-19-08 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
...not to mention gymnastic girl taking out raptors really hurts the film.

This is very true. That was almost intolerably stupid and I believe I choose to forget about her until reminded.

UAIOE 05-19-08 10:11 AM

"The Lost World" was better in print form than movie, but the movie is still 500% better than JP3.

reverie 05-19-08 10:21 AM

By memory (its been awhile for either), I'd put 2 over 3. I remember seeing JP3 in the theatres and thinking it looked like I was watching a video game.

mdc3000 05-19-08 11:10 AM

I love the whole JP series, but I'd say Lost World is the better movie. Jurassic Park 3 could have stood up to it if they actually HAD A LAST ACT. The film was building to a huge finale and then just ended...if there had been a water dino finale or something it really could have been great, but as is, it's just OK because it feels rushed. Lost World however kicks total ass and is extremely underrated IMO.

arminius 05-19-08 11:19 AM

I picked III, but just barely. If III had an ending it would have been a pretty good movie. Like others mentioned, the gymnast attack on the raptors was inane. Also the break down and slaughter of all the men without any fighting back. I get that they were mercs, but come on. At least a few of them would held and fought back. I would have liked to see an automatic weapon/raptor fight. And with their resources they did not bring 1 AFV?

hapgilmore 05-19-08 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by chris_sc77
Lost World is a very good movie. It has Problems but so Does JP.
JP3 is horrendous. I barely classify JP3 as a movie. Its only like 80 minutes long and when I was in theaters watching and it ended I got very depressed and felt like I had just been robbed. ALso it manages to have the worst effects of all 3 films which is surprising cause I thought effects were supposed to get better with the passage of time. Also no Goldblum in JP3 s a big negative.

That is another big reason why JP3 sucks. How do the FX get worse 8 years after the original?! The dinosaurs looked real in 1 and 2, but in 3 they look so obviously CGI it was ridiculous. I also remember the airplane looking very fake as well.

jeffkjoe 05-19-08 11:31 AM

JP 2 over JP 3.

At least JP 2 had some scary scenes. Plus, it still had Spielberg and John Williams.

devilshalo 05-19-08 11:40 AM

Gymnastic daughter = big :down:

Shannon Nutt 05-19-08 11:54 AM

Wow, I thought JP3 was much, much better than The Lost World. Maybe it's because I find Dr. Grant's character far more interesting than Malcolm's.

BullGooseLoony 05-19-08 12:21 PM

I think Lost World is a better film. It's more ambitious in scope, has that true "big sequel" feel about it, and three really fantastic set pieces. It does have an air of disappointment about it, definitely, but it's not bad by any means. The film is just very contrived and kinda silly for, at the time, the most aniticipated release of all time.

JP3 is much less ambitious, thus less disappointing. It's a straight-forward monster movie with pretty much no plot or characterization, but some really good action. It's a lot more fun, but less respectable.

Both films seem to be missing what the other has. So to answer the question:

The better film: Lost World
The film I'd rather watch: JP3

dick_grayson 05-19-08 12:40 PM

both of the kid storylines in each of the movies made them pretty awful. Whichever one didn't have the dinosaurs running through San Diego or wherever was the better one.

Michael Corvin 05-19-08 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by BullGooseLoony
I think Lost World is a better film. It's more ambitious in scope, has that true "big sequel" feel about it, and three really fantastic set pieces. It does have an air of disappointment about it, definitely, but it's not bad by any means. The film is just very contrived and kinda silly for, at the time, the most aniticipated release of all time.

JP3 is much less ambitious, thus less disappointing. It's a straight-forward monster movie with pretty much no plot or characterization, but some really good action. It's a lot more fun, but less respectable.

Both films seem to be missing what the other has. So to answer the question:

The better film: Lost World
The film I'd rather watch: JP3

That's a great way to put it.


Originally Posted by hapgilmore
That is another big reason why JP3 sucks. How do the FX get worse 8 years after the original?! The dinosaurs looked real in 1 and 2, but in 3 they look so obviously CGI it was ridiculous. I also remember the airplane looking very fake as well.

That would be because Spielberg used Stan Winston's genius visual effects instead of relying on CGI for everything.

discostu1337 05-19-08 01:33 PM

I voted lost world...JP3 was too short and it just ended abruptly. I thought...allright, now we get to see them go to the mainland and break some stuff...huh? credits?

Sorraffy 05-19-08 03:01 PM

With the ridiculously dumb idea of having one man stand on the beach and the cast yelling back at him that it was a bad idea of using a megaphone and then the movie jumps right to all these Marine vessels coming out of nowhere.

...... yeah I have to say I liked JP2 better


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