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Old 04-23-08, 11:12 AM
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Movies that you once loved, but now realized many aspects are annoying

That happened to me with T2. At the time, the overall movie was so great, I gave a pass to Linda Hamilton and Edward Furlong without thinking about it. As time goes on, what was a minor annoyance seems to have grown and made it hard to watch. When I do, I keep my finger on the FF button.

What movies have affected you that way?
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Independence Day - the acting is sooo inconsistent and hammy, not to mention the dialogue - aye!
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Top Gun

Oh, the hours of my life I wasted watching that movie over and over way back when. Its action sequences still hold up when compared to most current Hollywood action sequences---thanks to the the brilliance of Tony Scott. But, that acting . . .
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Glory, when I saw this movie as a kid I was moved, while still good today, it now feels over acted to me.
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A Bronx Tale....loved it when I first saw it, but some of the acting is quite poor, there's a cliched, forced attempt to interweave music into the story (rather than a more natural Scorsese-type score, which is what De Niro, I assume, was going for) and there's some bad cheesy dialogue. Still not a bad movie by any means, but not nearly as good as I had thought it was.
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Most of Kevin Smith's movies. I really loved them and watched them incessantly when I was 13-16. Looking back, I can still see the same charm that I once saw in them, but I definitly do not see them the way I used to. I think at some point I realised that all the self deprecating humor Smith directs at his own work, which I once took at face value, is actually quite well founded criticism that holds a lot of truth.

I still think that Dogma is quite good. It certainly has the best performances out of all Smith's films and the most creative story. Linda Fiorentino, George Carlin, Matt Damon, Chris Rock (who is not usually very good in films IMO), and Alan Rickman (obviously) give very good performances, and the rest of the cast is at their best as well, even Jason Mewes has some good moments (as much as I used to love this guy, he really isn't much of an actor, though sometimes a good comedian). Chasing Amy also stands the test of time to a lesser degree, though at some point in the last few years I came to the somewhat startling conclusion that Ben Affleck simply can not act. He isn't bad in Chasing Amy or Dogma, but I would not say he is good in them, or anything else for that matter. With only one film under his belt as a director, which was actually quite good, I think he's already a better director than he ever was an actor.

Clerks, Mallrats, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, and the rest of Smith's affiliated works (Vulgar, Drawing Flies, Evening with, etc.) while sometimes very funny, have not stood the test of time for me. They still hold a nostalgic place in my cinema-heart, but I don't think any of them are half as good as I used to give them credit for.

I have to say though, Clerks 2, which I still saw on opening day, was really refreshing to me as far as new comedies go. I haven't liked a mainstream comedy in about 5 years (I literally can't sit through anything that has to do with Judd Apatow, and I have tried) but I actually found Clerks 2 to be very funny and entertainingon a simple level, and genuinely a good, solid film.

I know that I'll still watch whatever Smith does next, but his older films certainly don't hold up the way I expected them to. I think that getting so into his work was still a worthwhile experience however. I think it was the first time I really started to get immersed in the world of cinema. It was also the first time that I really got into tracking down all of a director's work, which I think can be very rewarding.

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The Big Hit feat. Mark E. Mark. Remembering that I saw it oh, in seventh grade, I mentioned to an old roommate who spontaneously jumped into his closet and tore it out of whatever crevasse hell hole that was too good for it.

In having no memory of it, it seemed so enticing at the time, but GD what a terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE movie.
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I'll cheat...I hated "Rainman" when it came out and I hate it now...Best Picture?
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I didn't think anyone else knew that "The Big Hit" existed. I had it on VHS when I was like 13. It really is terrible, although I can remember a few parts that are amusing. Bokeem Woodbine and his porn addiction was pretty funny.
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Originally Posted by MorseMoose
A Bronx Tale....loved it when I first saw it, but some of the acting is quite poor, there's a cliched, forced attempt to interweave music into the story (rather than a more natural Scorsese-type score, which is what De Niro, I assume, was going for) and there's some bad cheesy dialogue. Still not a bad movie by any means, but not nearly as good as I had thought it was.
I really like that movie. I hate DeNiros character thought, and the wife Charmaine from Sopranos. All she says is "We could use the money"

The two that really stick out for me is The Crow & Event Horizon. But then again I used to watch them high. Watching them after weed was horrible. And I bought them both.
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Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom is rather painful for me to watch now. The kid sidekick and the screaming blond are just too over the top.

Mola Ram is still the shit, though.

Kali ma!
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E.T.
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Tremors
Cannonball Run (me as a kid: "cars, boobs, and Dom Deluise in the same movie?!")
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Originally Posted by Jfunk1
Top Gun

Oh, the hours of my life I wasted watching that movie over and over way back when. Its action sequences still hold up when compared to most current Hollywood action sequences---thanks to the the brilliance of Tony Scott. But, that acting . . .
That's part of Top Gun's charm and what makes it great! I just wasted 2 hours of my life last month when it was on Cinemax HD!

I actually don't think the action sequences are that great... 2 planes flying up, 2 planes flying down, 2 planes chasing each other... but it's the cheesy acting and music that make the flying sequences cool.

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Originally Posted by Iron Chef
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom is rather painful for me to watch now. The kid sidekick and the screaming blond are just too over the top.

Mola Ram is still the shit, though.

Kali ma!
om nom Shivi!

Yeah, Temple of Doom was a bit much. As I got older I realized how far downhill the female lead went from Raiders to Temple of Doom. Marion Ravenwood could've handed Willie Scott (nice name) her ass on a plate. Too much hijinx and ill-conceived comic relief for most of her screen time.

Short Round was a pain in the ass. And his martial arts skills kick the asses of those Thuggee guards (I guess because all Chinese kids are martial arts experts)? Yeah right.

Bugs, monkey brains, ripped-out-hearts. Way, way too much going on there. They could've handled that a lot better.

Continuing with the trilogy, The Last Crusade isn't great either-- better than Temple of Doom, but nothing like Raiders. Marcus Brody went from Indy's mentor and friend to a bumbling retard, they bought back Sallah, because... why again? Too many tongue-in-cheek cliches throughout the whole thing.

Raiders is probably the only one I'd intentially put on and watch. The others I might check out if I happen to be flipping through channels (if they're ever on, whey they rarely are).


edit: I have to mention ROTJ, although it's probably been mentioned already. Ewoks.

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Pretty much all of the 80s flicks that were executive produced (but not directed) by Steven Spielberg.

Like:
The Goonies
Gremlins
Innerspace
*batteries not included
Young Sherlock Holmes (although this is probably the best of the lot)

Exceptions to this rule:
Any film directed by Robert Zemekis (Back To The Future, Who Framed Roger Rabbit)
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As a kid, my two favorite movies were Innerspace and Enemy Mine. They both got several blockbuster rentals. I remember seeing them both again when I was in college and having to turn them off they were so bad. Innerspace was just too corny for me, but Enemy Mine was terrible. I have no idea what I liked about that movie.
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Originally Posted by Dave7393

edit: I have to mention ROTJ, although it's probably been mentioned already. Ewoks.
That was the FIRST movie I thought of when seeing this thread's title.

I've seen "The Big Hit" countless times over the years.

Stupid as hell, but I've always enjoyed it. Avery Brooks as the big boss, Lou Diamond Phillips as "Cisco", funny to me considering the role Brooks is best known for but spelled differently as "Sisko".

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Independence Day - the acting is sooo inconsistent and hammy, not to mention the dialogue - aye!
Compared to Emmerich and Devlin's follow-up Godzilla 1998, well there is no comparison with regards to acting and dialogue. ID4 is so vastly superior*



*Yes, after 12 years, and probably a thousand viewings, ID4 is still one of my dear favorites. I love it for probably the many reasons people loathe it, not out of spite but because I genuinely enjoy it.
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I agree, ID4 is enjoyable on a popcorn level, but after seeing it for the umpteenth time, you start to see things that just seem silly or overblown...

Godzilla, though was in an exercise, in not knowing when to stop...
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Originally Posted by naitram
"cars, boobs, and Dom Deluise in the same movie?!"
Let's be honest, this is all a great movie really needs.

Originally Posted by Dave7393
Bugs, monkey brains, ripped-out-hearts. Way, way too much going on there. They could've handled that a lot better.
The ripped out heart never bothered me nearly as much as the monkey brains, and it was nothing compared to those bugs.

I'll admit it, that damn scene with the bugs scarred me for life.
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Originally Posted by Iron Chef
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom is rather painful for me to watch now. The kid sidekick and the screaming blond are just too over the top.

Mola Ram is still the shit, though.

Kali ma!
Another vote for this one.

Kate Capshaw is so annoying, everytime I watch the film I keep hoping she's going to die.
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Another vote for this one.

Kate Capshaw is so annoying, everytime I watch the film I keep hoping she's going to die.
I keep hoping she gets naked. it never happens.
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Oddly enough, I feel that way about Marion in Raiders. Everyone seems to act like she's some tough girl and wasn't the typical damsel in the distress, but she gets carried off in a wicker basket! Come on!

Yeah Willie is worse, but the love for Marion seems odd to me.
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I once thought that Tony Scott's The Hunger was a masterpiece, but seeing it recently, I'm embarrased to admit I ever even watched it.

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