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man*machine 06-01-09 03:50 PM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Originally Posted by Daytripper (Post 9478478)
Ain't that the truth. I had "My Bloody Valentine" waiting for me from Netflix when I got home from seeing "DMTH", and I just around to watching it last night. Talking about going from a Filet Mignon to a Steakum. What a piece of shit that was. Not scary on any level, not interesting, horrible acting and writing. Even for that type of film, it's probably the worst of it's kind I've seen.
Tell me about it. I saw that in 3-D theatrically and it was a pain sitting through even with the 3-D. I can't even imagine watching it flat. The usual generic genre remake put together by studio suits with nothing new brought to the table. I know the writer and director were fond of the original, but they sure didn't do anything fun with the material.

Even for those people who didn't like DRAG ME, there's no denying that Raimi revels in having fun as a director. You can just feel his ethusiasm flowing off the screen. So many modern genre films just feel so flat and by-the-numbers. Raimi proves that genre films can still be fun, even if the material may not be the most original or unique. It's the kind of movie that made me fall in love with the genre in the first place oh-so many years ago. I've often wondered why I still go see genre movies these days like the Ft13th remake and all the other junk because none of them are any good. DRAG ME makes me realize again why I ever liked the genre in the first place. THE DESCENT was excellent and probably a better "horror film" than DRAG, but DRAG was a lot more fun while watching it. And that counts for something.

The Bus 06-02-09 07:09 AM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Saw this last night. It's up there with The Ring, The Descent, and Let the Right One In among the best horror movies of this decade (even if The Ring isn't strictly horror).

If I hadn't seen Up just a few days ago, this would be the best movie of the year for me. Just a great mixture of funny and scary, and even some of the The Mask-level CGI can't detract from the fun of this film.

The ending, which I should've seen coming a mile away, took me by surprise.

kristina 06-02-09 11:48 AM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Originally Posted by CaptainMarvel (Post 9475906)
I saw this movie last night. It was overall incredibly enjoyable, although the ending was telegraphed from a million miles away.
Really? All through the movie I was hoping for that ening. If it would've ended in the extremely opposite way, I woulden't have liked the movie as much as I did.

Daytripper 06-02-09 11:51 AM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Originally Posted by kristina (Post 9480362)
Really? All through the movie I was hoping for that ening. If it would've ended in the extremely opposite way, I woulden't have liked the movie as much as I did.
Me too. And I'm with the Bus, because I wasn't expecting that ending at all. Guess I'm stupid.

kristina 06-02-09 11:55 AM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema (Post 9477429)
This is nowhere close to The Descent, or even Let the Right One In. I'll take those two over this any day of the week.
In what way are you contrasting those two with DMTH? I found The Descent and LTROI to be quieter than Drag Me To Hell. LTROI overall had too many subtle scares to keep my interest. Sure DMTH had some over-the-top scares but the storylines are different in the other two movies you mentioned.

kristina 06-02-09 11:57 AM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Originally Posted by Daytripper (Post 9480375)
Me too. And I'm with the Bus, because I wasn't expecting that ending at all. Guess I'm stupid.
No you're not. I think maybe some ppl predicted that ending before even seeing the movie. Their predictions probably influenced them to not enjoy the movie as much and say "it wasen't as good as I hoped."

fearnet 06-02-09 12:18 PM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Originally Posted by man*machine (Post 9478513)
Even for those people who didn't like DRAG ME, there's no denying that Raimi revels in having fun as a director. You can just feel his ethusiasm flowing off the screen. So many modern genre films just feel so flat and by-the-numbers. Raimi proves that genre films can still be fun, even if the material may not be the most original or unique. It's the kind of movie that made me fall in love with the genre in the first place oh-so many years ago. I've often wondered why I still go see genre movies these days like the Ft13th remake and all the other junk because none of them are any good. DRAG ME makes me realize again why I ever liked the genre in the first place. THE DESCENT was excellent and probably a better "horror film" than DRAG, but DRAG was a lot more fun while watching it. And that counts for something.
I agree with you here 100%. Even if you weren't the hugest fan of the movie, you gotta give it to Raimi for reminding us why we all love horror.

And for all the Evil Dead fans out there, FEARnet.com is streaming 'Evil Dead 2' (for free) to celebrate Raimi's return to horror. (Isn't that movie why we all gave DMTH a chance anyway?)

Jack with FEARnet

CaptainMarvel 06-02-09 01:13 PM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Originally Posted by kristina (Post 9480362)
Really? All through the movie I was hoping for that ening. If it would've ended in the extremely opposite way, I woulden't have liked the movie as much as I did.
I didn't say the ending was bad. It was just telegraphed.

Spoiler:

The envelope at the beginning with the coin was a total Chekhov's gun. It had to play a role in the ending.

"I'll just conspicuously hide this coin inside an envelope, which the camera will make a point to focus on."
"Now I'll just hide this button, a crucial item that will save me from damnation, inside an identical envelope."
"Oops, we had a sudden stop and my envelope flew into the seat along with other papers and an envelope. I'll assume this is the right envelope without looking at it."
"Yay, I stuffed the envelope in the corpse. I'm saved! Movie's over, except for these last few scenes that won't have a twist at all."

I don't see how you don't see it coming if you're paying any sort of attention to the movie.

riotinmyskull 06-02-09 02:14 PM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
just got back from seeing this and thought it was a blast. yes i figured out the ending midway through but it didn't bother me. i rarely walk out of the theater after seeing a modern horror flick with a big grin on my face and this movie made me do just that. my only complaint was the use of lame cgi. seriously this is 2009 not 1999.

RocShemp 06-02-09 02:25 PM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
I did not predict the ending before I saw the movie. I predicted the ending the moment
Spoiler:
the seer placed the button in the envelope.
Although I was slightly off as I thought
Spoiler:
the boyfriend would be the one to go to hell
due to some technicality of his having
Spoiler:
received and accepted a gift (albeit a totally different gift) from her.


Did that ruin the movie? Certainly not. Did it keep the final act from living up 100% to what came before. Yes. But at least it was 95% there. :)

RD1973 06-03-09 12:55 AM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Originally Posted by kristina (Post 9480386)
In what way are you contrasting those two with DMTH? I found The Descent and LTROI to be quieter than Drag Me To Hell. LTROI overall had too many subtle scares to keep my interest. Sure DMTH had some over-the-top scares but the storylines are different in the other two movies you mentioned.
I think Drag Me to Hell was definitely the best of the three. The Descent was more predictable for me. And LTROI was very disappointing. It wasn't scary or creepy, just really boring. I know I'm gonna get torn apart for saying that. But it definitely did't live up to the hype. DMTH, on the other hand, was a blast (especially in a packed theater).

RocShemp 06-03-09 01:34 AM
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You're not alone, RD1973. There was nothing scary or creepy about Let The Right One In. It didn't help that I found the whole thing was incredibly predictable. Add to that that it was dreadfully boring, I don't get the hype at all. :shrug:

I disagree on The Descent, however. I love that it's
Spoiler:
technically not a horror film until the last 30 minutes.
It had a great amount of tension built up so that it really payed off for me in the end.

As for Drag Me To Hell it was a fun ride from beginning to end, telegraphed final twist notwithstanding, and a breath of fresh air in a genre that's been gradually growing stale due to the more prominent "mainstream" horror flicks of late.

grrr 06-03-09 03:44 AM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 9482320)
I disagree on The Decent, however.
Any director who would name his film "The Decent" has already given up completely. ;)

Saw DMTH last night and found it to be a great little flick full of the classic Raimi humor that we've come to expect. If anything, it out-Evil-Dead-ed the Evil Dead movies, which is high praise indeed considering that Bruce Campbell was nowhere to be found onscreen. Probably my favorite movie of the young summer (though I have yet to see Up, so that may change in the next few days).

grrr 06-03-09 03:47 AM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Originally Posted by CaptainMarvel (Post 9480752)
I didn't say the ending was bad. It was just telegraphed.

Spoiler:

The envelope at the beginning with the coin was a total Chekhov's gun. It had to play a role in the ending.

"I'll just conspicuously hide this coin inside an envelope, which the camera will make a point to focus on."
"Now I'll just hide this button, a crucial item that will save me from damnation, inside an identical envelope."
"Oops, we had a sudden stop and my envelope flew into the seat along with other papers and an envelope. I'll assume this is the right envelope without looking at it."
"Yay, I stuffed the envelope in the corpse. I'm saved! Movie's over, except for these last few scenes that won't have a twist at all."

I don't see how you don't see it coming if you're paying any sort of attention to the movie.
Raimi's playing with genre conventions here. Anyone who's seen the old Phantasm flicks knows that evil always triumphs when these sorts of stories play out, and I would expect nothing less of this film than to return to the genre standards.

RocShemp 06-03-09 06:40 AM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Originally Posted by grrr (Post 9482360)
Any director who would name his film "The Decent" has already given up completely. ;)
:lol: Dang typos! :blush:

Originally Posted by grrr
Raimi's playing with genre conventions here. Anyone who's seen the old Phantasm flicks knows that evil always triumphs when these sorts of stories play out, and I would expect nothing less of this film than to return to the genre standards.
I have no issues with the actual conclusion.
Spoiler:
I didn't want a happy ending once this was all over.
I just wish it hadn't been so telegraphed.

Charlie Goose 06-03-09 03:26 PM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
If your soul is at stake
Spoiler:
take an extra 3 seconds and make certain that the cursed button is actually in the envelope before digging up the grave.

Solid Snake 06-03-09 03:49 PM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Liked the ever loving fuck out of it. Pure Raimi film...that little head against car window moment...that was Bruce Campbell acting there..fun film. Really liked it. One of the best films of year so far. Hope this gets an ED4 to come up somehow...yeah..I still hope for it.

Brent L 06-03-09 04:11 PM
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I know it's quite early, but has any sort of talk of a possible sequel been mentioned yet? I highly doubt we'll have a Sam Raimi horror picture which has received critical praise, not to mention decent returns at the box office (and likely make big bucks on the DVD/BD releases) not have some sort of sequel.

notkevinbacon 06-03-09 04:31 PM
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^ I've thought about that too. Interesting to think where it would end up going (plot wise and tonally) if you look at the ED -> ED2 -> Army route.

Spoiler:
Though I don't really want to see a sequel I can almost imagine one where Clay and Rham find a way to get into Hell and battle for Christine's soul. Lots of potential for Deadite battles galore. I mean, it's a pretty obvious idea for a follow up.

That being said, there's probably some potential there if the idea were fleshed out in any kind of way... but I really wouldn't ever want to see a sequel to this film. I appreciate the final scene and that, after all the goofiness and fun, the movie really ends with a punch to the nuts.

RocShemp 06-03-09 04:43 PM
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Actually, if we are indeed to follow the ED -> ED2 -> AOD pattern, DMTH2 would begin with
Spoiler:
a 15 - 20 minute recap of the first film that would only feature Christine, her boyfriend, and Mrs. Ganush. At the end of the recap we'll see that Christine somehow managed to claw her way out of hell, though temporarily demon possesed. Some disposable characters would later appear and Christine would be the final survivor stuck in either some medieval kingdom or perhaps purgatory. Part three would be her struggling to find her way back home while battling an evil double of herself and narrating the whole story to an unimpressed Ted Raimi.
;)

Brent L 06-03-09 05:00 PM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Well all I know is that if they do indeed produce a sequel, I'll be there opening day.

kristina 06-04-09 04:19 PM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 9482320)
You're not alone, RD1973. There was nothing scary or creepy about Let The Right One In. It didn't help that I found the whole thing was incredibly predictable. Add to that that it was dreadfully boring, I don't get the hype at all. :shrug:
Glad I'm not the only one. I became bored with it about an hour in so I just sent it back to Netflix w/o watching the conclusion. I do like the movie's poster though.

kristina 06-04-09 04:22 PM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Originally Posted by Brent L (Post 9484005)
Well all I know is that if they do indeed produce a sequel, I'll be there opening day.
hmmm... I'm extremely skeptical about sequals. Even if it is done by the same director. Sometimes people just take the horror part and completely make it comedic for a sequal and that just ruins it for me.
If there were a sequal, I woulden't see any point in putting Alison Lohman in it unless she got into some sort of romantic relationship in Hell. That's the only way I'd be interested. I hate when sequals bring the main charecter back as some sort of "warning" to whomever the new live person who has to fight off the evil. That's why I diden't care for Rest Stop 2.

kristina 06-04-09 04:26 PM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
Before I forget, I'd love to see a SE DVD. It'd be great to have one or two commentary tracks and a few makeing-of features.

islandclaws 06-04-09 04:58 PM
Re: Drag Me To Hell - Sam Raimi
 
I'm sure the DVD/BD will have a commentary and (possibly) be the slightly longer R-rated cut.


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