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Old 04-21-08 | 01:10 PM
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i just meant that and i've always thought that "Cloverfield" would have been much better if it was made more theatrical. the guerilla camera style just didn't work at all for me and wish it had looked more like "The Host" and "The Mist". all 3 seemed to be similar, just with different character portrayals, but i liked TH and TM better because it had a normal theatrical, stylized look and i think C would have worked better done like that.
I liked Cloverfield because it didn't have a theatrical feel to it. I was able to feel more involved and a part of the action, which is what i felt had going for it and set itself apart from 'The Host,' which I also liked.
Old 04-21-08 | 01:12 PM
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Cloverfield would have been just another run of the mill monster flick destroying NYC if it wasn't shot the way it was. That's what made it awesome and different.

I don't know how one can compare this to The Mist. They are two totally different stories and two totally different films.
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Overheard at my local video store 10 minutes ago:

Customer: Will you be renting Cloverfield tomorrow?
Clerk: Sure. Have you seen it?
Customer: No, but I can't wait to bitch about it.
Clerk: It's not that bad. It's about shallow, superficial people reacting to a major disaster.
Customer: Oh, is it about Iraq?
Old 04-21-08 | 05:56 PM
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Wow, the people at your video store seem to think they're really witty.
Old 04-21-08 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by baracine
Overheard at my local video store 10 minutes ago:

Customer: Will you be renting Cloverfield tomorrow?
Clerk: Sure. Have you seen it?
Customer: No, but I can't wait to bitch about it.
Clerk: It's not that bad. It's about shallow, superficial people reacting to a major disaster.
Customer: Oh, is it about Iraq?
ah, i see what you did there,..... uh, hmm never mind
you really didn't do anything.
zzzzz
Old 04-21-08 | 07:50 PM
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amyone find the hidden video clips yet, or more how to access them?
Old 04-21-08 | 07:57 PM
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Cloverfield would have been just another run of the mill monster flick destroying NYC if it wasn't shot the way it was. That's what made it awesome and different.
Yup, it was Blair Witch for the new millennium.
Old 04-22-08 | 06:34 AM
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ah, i see what you did there,..... uh, hmm never mind
you really didn't do anything.
zzzzz
I should have captured the moment with a shaky hand-held camera, I guess...

BTW, Montreal had its own Cloverfield last night when the Habs beat Boston 5-0. As usual, the disenfranchised English-speaking minority jackasses saw this as permission to destroy their own city, their version of "culture" and "social interaction":

<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1KSK3fVNr5g&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1KSK3fVNr5g&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

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Old 04-22-08 | 07:52 AM
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Old 04-22-08 | 08:27 AM
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Fourteen police cars were destroyed or set on fire, shop windows were smashed and stores were looted. Sixteen rioters were arrested. If convicted, they face a few years in French-immersion class where they might learn civilized behaviour. Failing that, it's deportation to the US...

http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/ne...0a755a&k=25550

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Old 04-22-08 | 08:50 PM
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Just saw it on DVD. I'm not really disappointed because of the 1,001 spoilers contained in this thread and in other sources but I was suprised to find it sadder and more violent than I expected and certainly not worthy of a PG 13 rating, unless our children have definitely turned into unfeeling mutants (which is certainly a possibility). This, in spite of the fact that the actors are so young, pretty, plastic and generic that it's almost impossible to feel anything for them. The film's jerkiness also made me sick in parts and I admit I fast-forwarded through some of it (with the subtitles on).

I was also sorry that given the fact that the monster looks like Chtulu, it wasn't given more of a backstory, even in the extra material on the disc. I especially liked the link to the "Bloop" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloop ) which was established early on in the French-language Wikipedia entry on Cloverfield (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloverfield). A missed opportunity...

The full bloop: http://www.oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/ex...dia/bloop.html

On the plus side, I really enjoyed the end-titles music, which is the only way to hear the complete ROAR! (Cloverfield Overture) by Michael Giacchino, which is truly worth the price of the rental.

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Old 04-22-08 | 08:55 PM
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i think it looks like giant deformed bat.
Old 04-22-08 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by baracine
I was also sorry that given the fact that the monster looks like Chtulu, it wasn't given more of a backstory, even in the extra material on the disc. I especially liked the link to the "Bloop" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloop )which was established early on in the French-language Wikipedia entry on Cloverfield (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloverfield). A missed opportunity...
yeah considering it DIDNT have a squid head and giant bat wings...
Old 04-22-08 | 09:05 PM
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yeah considering it DIDNT have a squid head and giant bat wings...
It was a baby Cthulhu...

Old 04-22-08 | 09:10 PM
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I always thought the monster looked like Tendril of the Inhumanoids.

Old 04-22-08 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by baracine
Just saw it on DVD. I'm not really disappointed because of the 1,001 spoilers contained in this thread and in other sources but I was suprised to find it sadder and more violent than I expected and certainly not worthy of a PG 13 rating, unless our children have definitely turned into unfeeling mutants (which is certainly a possibility). This, in spite of the fact that the actors are so young, pretty, plastic and generic that it's almost impossible to feel anything for them. The film's jerkiness also made me sick in parts and I admit I fast-forwarded through some of it (with the subtitles on).

I was also sorry that given the fact that the monster looks like Chtulu, it wasn't given more of a backstory, even in the extra material on the disc. I especially liked the link to the "Bloop" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloop ) which was established early on in the French-language Wikipedia entry on Cloverfield (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloverfield). A missed opportunity...

The full bloop: http://www.oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/ex...dia/bloop.html

On the plus side, I really enjoyed the end-titles music, which is the only way to hear the complete ROAR! (Cloverfield Overture) by Michael Giacchino, which is truly worth the price of the rental.
I agree about the rating. This film was PG 13 yet There Will Be Blood was rated R? I just don't understand the MPAA.
Old 04-22-08 | 10:33 PM
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Watching this now on DVD I can't believe I ever missed that thing falling from the sky. It's clear as crystal now.

So what the hell is it?
Old 04-23-08 | 05:27 AM
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Watching this now on DVD I can't believe I ever missed that thing falling from the sky. It's clear as crystal now.

So what the hell is it?
It's obviously the monster falling to earth two weeks before, added at the last minute in order to cop out from the need to provide the monster with an elaborate backstory (Chtulhu, a creature created by the polluting Slushee company, what have you).
Old 04-23-08 | 07:03 AM
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Finally spotted the mystery falling object. Hmmm, intentional, or just the SFX boys having some fun?

Caught it on dvd for the first time last night. Loved it, although did end up FF'ing through the first 18 minutes. Something I've never done on a first viewing before. I managed to work up some sympathy as things went on, but I can't say I ever actually cared if the little espresso sippers lived or died. I actually felt more symapthy for the monster. Especially after the director speculated that it was just a lost baby.

Can't really think of anything to praise that hasn't already been covered already. Though were any other monster film fans going a little nuts during the final scene? The kid was going on about the incredible all-out battle going on outside, but he keeps the camera locked on his ugly mug? I can understand the dramatics of the shot, but I was still wanting to tear my hair a bit in frustration.


Really the only way I could see a sequel working would be if hey did it as an after-action documentary, with interviews with scientists and military personal basing doing a time line of the first clues, all the way through the attack, with plenty of speculation on its origin, and lots of combat footage.
Unfortunately I doubt the teenaged 'we hate anything different', crowd with the attention span of a gnat would go for it.

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Watching this now on DVD I can't believe I ever missed that thing falling from the sky. It's clear as crystal now.

So what the hell is it?
The running theory is that it is the satellite for the Japanese company that main dude was going to work for. The website for that fake company reported the incident and then they searched the water for it. This coupled with some Slusho drilling woke up the monster I think....
Old 04-23-08 | 11:50 AM
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I was also sorry that given the fact that the monster looks like Chtulu, it wasn't given more of a backstory, even in the extra material on the disc. I especially liked the link to the "Bloop" which was established early on in the French-language Wikipedia entry on Cloverfield. A missed opportunity...
No, the opportunity was to gain interest, not for explanation. I don't see why people feel the need for backstory on the creature. Some things are better left unexplained to progress the film.
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I still have no problems with the monster being unexplained. It works.
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I still have no problems with the monster being unexplained. It works.
Exactly. We're following the story from the camera held by these people.

Spoiler:

They die before finding out what it was. So they never know and neither do we.
Old 04-23-08 | 01:13 PM
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People who need it all spoonfed to them just bug the hell out of me. Probably the same crowd who wished they'd filmed the govt lab experiment gone bad scene in The Mist. Or hated Blair Witch Project because a seven foot rubber monster didn't jump out and go 'boo!' at the end.
Old 04-23-08 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by baracine
It's obviously the monster falling to earth two weeks before, added at the last minute in order to cop out from the need to provide the monster with an elaborate backstory (Chtulhu, a creature created by the polluting Slushee company, what have you).

It's a satellite.


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