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TGM 01-11-08 07:09 AM

What movie "broke the 4th wall" the best?
 
If you don't know what that means, look it up.

Super X 01-11-08 07:13 AM

Ferris Bueller's Day Off

Randy Miller III 01-11-08 07:14 AM

High Fidelity worked for me.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.ya...cusack/hf2.jpg

kerouac99 01-11-08 07:22 AM

American Splendor for me

Jackskeleton 01-11-08 07:27 AM

Blazing Saddles and Space balls. Good ol' watching the future during the present via VHS.

inri222 01-11-08 07:31 AM

Funny Games

Toad 01-11-08 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by Randy Miller III
High Fidelity worked for me.

That was my first thought as well.

Another:

Ferris Bueller's Day Off
http://www.impawards.com/1986/poster...rs_day_off.jpg



Edit: Sorry the picture is ridiculously big. It's not like MB is a hot chick, so it's totally unwarranted.

Neeb 01-11-08 07:53 AM

I'll be the only one to say it...

Austin Powers 2-

There's a great moment where Michael Anderson is explaining something to Austin about Time Travel and he just glances up to tell us not to think too hard about it.

Doughboy 01-11-08 08:08 AM

Eddie Murphy in Trading Places

Ray Liotta at the end of GoodFellas

George Lazenby in On Her Majesty's Secret Service

RichC2 01-11-08 08:20 AM

Waynes World with the direct addresses to the camera and the product shilling.

megashock5 01-11-08 08:31 AM

24 Hour Party People

Meglos 01-11-08 08:42 AM

Fight Club.

I just love the bit where Norton's character takes a moment to dab something off his chin while he explains to the audience what Tyler's hotel job was.

Groucho 01-11-08 08:45 AM

My favorite moment in any movie when somebody breaks the fourth wall comes in A Shot in the Dark:
Spoiler:
Towards the end, everybody is fighting and bickering and poor Clouseau can do nothing about it. For a brief moment, he looks plaintively at the audience before returning his attention to the goings-on. For some reason, I find the whole thing absolutely hilarious every time I see it.

boredsilly 01-11-08 08:56 AM

Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Ok, not the best, but I enjoyed the gag.

matome 01-11-08 09:26 AM

Kuffs

veloce 01-11-08 09:27 AM

Although I ultimately didn't care for the film very much, I liked Kurt Russell's grin at the camera in DEATH PROOF.

The Bus 01-11-08 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by inri222
Funny Games

:up:

rennervision 01-11-08 10:08 AM

Ferris Bueller was my first thought as well.

There was some of that in Good Fellas. It might have seemed like an odd idea on paper, but somehow Sorcese managed to pull it off. [EDIT: Oh crap! Someone already mentioned that one also!]

I'm also reminded of the TV series Moonlighting. They seemed to do it all the time on that show and, unless it was during an intro before the episode began, I usually hated it. It just seemed like whenever the writers ran out of clever things to do, they used that tired gimmick.

starman9000 01-11-08 10:23 AM

I hope I'm not remembering this wrong, but isn't there a scene in Harold and Maude where Harold looks at the camera and grins?

RobCA 01-11-08 10:34 AM

Annie Hall (the scene with Marshall McLuhan especially)
Return of the Killer Tomatoes (great product shilling scene, years before Wayne's World did it)

Doc MacGyver 01-11-08 10:46 AM

Superman: The Movie

Superman saved the day, Lois is alive and well, and Superman flies off into the upper atmosphere. Just as John William's brilliant score is crescendoing and Superman flies up to the left and out of frame, he throws a smile to the audience.


-Doc

Toad 01-11-08 11:01 AM

Are we just naming movies that break the 4th wall, or are we naming the movies that did it the best?

Addressing the audience verbally seems to trump a mere smile, in my opinion.

And, of course, my opinion is always correct. So, there you go.

BambooLounge 01-11-08 11:03 AM

History of the World: Part I..."It's good to be the king."

Doc MacGyver 01-11-08 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Toad
Are we just naming movies that break the 4th wall, or are we naming the movies that did it the best?

Addressing the audience verbally seems to trump a mere smile, in my opinion.

And, of course, my opinion is always correct. So, there you go.


The smile, though, was more than just a wink to the audience. In almost any other movie (especially a comic book one) I would have hated it. But from the moment the first teaser/poster came out with the tagline, "You Will Believe a Man Can Fly", people were hyped (and nervous) about the movie.

What followed was a long wait, followed by a two hour movie-going experience that people who saw it in the theater liken to Star Wars and ET. It was 2 hours of Joy, crescendoing in a symphonic flying montage that left one elated, and by the time the smile/glance came, it wasn't Christopher Reeve winking at you from a harness rig, it was SUPERMAN, flying off into the sunset, throwing you a nod.

It gave me chills, anyway.



-Doc

reverie 01-11-08 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
Superman: The Movie

Superman saved the day, Lois is alive and well, and Superman flies off into the upper atmosphere. Just as John William's brilliant score is crescendoing and Superman flies out of up to the left and out of frame, he throws a smile to the audience.


-Doc

Great! I'd have to put my vote in for this for sure.

But another is Anthony Perkins at the end of "Psycho".. creepy!

Palaver 01-11-08 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Meglos
Fight Club.

I just love the bit where Norton's character takes a moment to dab something off his chin while he explains to the audience what Tyler's hotel job was.

Tyler Durden: Would you like to say a few words to mark the occasion?
Narrator: mumbles...
Tyler Durden: I'm sorry...
Narrator: I still can't think of anything.
Tyler Durden: Ah... flashback humor.

The Infidel 01-11-08 11:08 AM

I thought High Fidelity did it best by keeping us face to face with the main character through the movie, but The Jerk did it in an interesting way as well, by having Navin begin and end the movie by telling us his life story.

Doc MacGyver 01-11-08 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Palaver
Tyler Durden: Would you like to say a few words to mark the occasion?
Narrator: mumbles...
Tyler Durden: I'm sorry...
Narrator: I still can't think of anything.
Tyler Durden: Ah... flashback humor.


Fight Club as a whole is one big wink to the audience. God, I love the fuckin' movie.



-Doc

islandclaws 01-11-08 11:23 AM

Darryl in <b>Coming to America</b>. You know, after Lisa's sister finds him outside in the rain and invites him in, then she says "Let's get you out of these wet clothes." That look he gives is priceless.

ScandalUMD 01-11-08 11:28 AM

"Ocean's 12"

Doesn't she look just like...

Doc MacGyver 01-11-08 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by ScandalUMD
"Ocean's 12"

Doesn't she look just like...


Actually didn't like that one. I get what they were doing, trying to be cute. But it was one of those winks where, instead of letting me in on the joke, it just took me totally out of the movie.



-Doc

mijorico 01-11-08 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
Actually didn't like that one. I get what they were doing, trying to be cute. But it was one of those winks where, instead of letting me in on the joke, it just took me totally out of the movie.

I agree. It sealed the fate of what, for me, had been an already disappointing movie up to that point.

I think Ferris Bueller is going to be the overriding winner in this discussion. Most of the time, breaking the fourth wall just doesn't work.

jeffkjoe 01-11-08 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
Superman: The Movie

Superman saved the day, Lois is alive and well, and Superman flies off into the upper atmosphere. Just as John William's brilliant score is crescendoing and Superman flies up to the left and out of frame, he throws a smile to the audience.


-Doc


The other 4th wall moment in Superman:

Clark Kent shows the audience that he's caught the bullet that almost kills Lois.

DthRdrX 01-11-08 11:51 AM

Bill Murray-Ghostbusters 1/2 has always been my favorite example of this.

Calculon 01-11-08 11:57 AM

Hamlet

Doc MacGyver 01-11-08 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by jeffkjoe
The other 4th wall moment in Superman:

Clark Kent shows the audience that he's caught the bullet that almost kills Lois.


Did he? I thought he looked down at his hand, all proud of himself like the cat that ate the canary. I didn't realize he was showing us (From a filmmaking standpoint he was, just as in any movie where there's a reveal, the character is "Showing us" what had just happened, but it wasn't like he looked at the camera and then opened his hand, was it?)


-Doc

FinkPish 01-11-08 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
Did he? I thought he looked down at all, all proud of himself like the cat that ate the canary. I didn't realize he was showing us (From a filmmaking standpoint he was, just as in any movie where there's a reveal, the character is "Showing us" what had just happened, but it wasn't like he looked at the camera and then opened his hand, was it?)


-Doc

Yeah, that was just an insert shot, not breaking the 4th wall.

project86 01-11-08 12:27 PM

I don't know what my favorite one is, but I can tell you my least favorite.

Into the Wild, out of nowhere he just stares at the camera while he's eating an apple. I'm sure Sean Penn thought it was "cute", but it ruined the movie for me the rest of the time I watched it.

adamblast 01-11-08 12:28 PM

On a related note... Are there examples other than Blazing Saddles where the movie breaks the fourth wall almost literally, panning out to a soundstage and going fully meta?

TGM 01-11-08 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by adamblast
On a related note... Are there examples other than Blazing Saddles where the movie breaks the fourth wall almost literally, panning out to a soundstage and going fully meta?

Monty Python and the Holy Grail?

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