Okay, seriously, I'll admit "What does God need with a starship?" is a good line, but the rest of that dialogue is emblematic of what's wrong with the movie -- it's Star Trek fan-fic written by Shatner with Kirk as his Mary-Sue. Kirk in this one is infallible -- he resists Sybok's brainwashing even though every other member of the crew, including Spock, is susceptible to it, and then he sees through the God of Giant Pixel's lies (what a horrible special effect) and stands up to him. He even falls from the top of a mountain, but knows he won't die because ... well, he's mother-frakkin' Kirk!

I used to call it Super Kirk. There are several good moments in the film, but the bad moments are just so bad. We're on page 2...nobody has brought up row your boat, yet?

The fact that they actually sang "Row Your Boat" in the movie was jaw-droppingly bad, but I always liked Spock's line afterward when he said, "But Jim... life is NOT a dream."

See post #3

And I actually re-scanned the thread to make sure. Oh well, it's a point worth emphasizing.

How about the bizarre...out of nowhere...Uhura/Scotty romantic relationship that was implied?

Yeah.


It's funny - I agree with alot of the things the haters are saying here but for some reason this film owns a soft spot of my heart. So soft I'd go as far as saying of the original cast flicks I like this 3rd best behind II and VI. I never really cared much for IV at all. To me, that's the departure film.

There needed to be more of those.

Well, the Jerry Goldsmith score was kinda nice.

^^^ I good score always brings up a film's worth.

If they were to re-do the fx with c.g.i. does anyone think they would maybe like the movie?

No. The only way to fix the movie would be to redo from start with a new script.

Well she did grasp his arm at the end of IV when they see the new Enterprise-A. I always thought that was the first hint that there was something more between the two of them.

While I much enjoy II and III, IV's story was pretty interesting. and whales are awesome.

Understood, but Khan is still the gold standard in my opinion. V is not without merit, and the story could have been great (hell, half the original series episodes seemed to feature a not-so-benevolent god, only to be exposed as a fake by Kirk/Spock in the end). Clearly they were unwilling (Harve Bennett, Meyer) or unable (budget) to camouflage Shatner's limitations as a director and writer. Oh, and they let some dude build the special effects out of a garage somewhere in New Jersey.

And I still rank V above the first film.

Star Trek V wasn't as bad as Star Trek: The Motion Picture, Star Trek: Insurrection or Star Trek: Nemesis.

The movie failed for two primary reasons: Shatner got lousy special effects work (ILM wasn't used for the movie because the "A team" and "B teams" weren't available...and Shatner thought the "C team" would be the "third best team", although ILM doesn't divide up their teams that way - each are of equal quality) and Paramount never let him shoot the ending he wanted - they basically pulled the plug on the movie to get it out for the summer of '89.

It would have been nice if Paramount had given Shatner the money to finish his vision on the recent Special Edition DVD - but again Paramount didn't want to invest the money.

I agree that V was better than I and X. Maybe better than IX. Definitely some watchable moments, but not a classic by any means.

My best in order is :
2
4
5
6
3
1

The Motionless Picture was a big-budget version of The Changeling, and look how well that turned out. When I see a Star Trek movie, I don't want a two hour episode -- which is why I dislike the TNG films.

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Well the special effects are bad, but thats not my main problem with the film.

The dialogue for most of the film is just utterly ridiculous, the scenarios are so far fetched its not funny. The whole rescue is a joke and the takeover of the enterprise is even worse...and then it gets worse from there...with bumbling Scotty and his bitch Uhura.

The only neat part of the movie is the scene with Kirk, Bones and I think Spock - the whole "I need my pain" speech. Classic Shatner and Trek.

Other than that, the movie blows. Shatner tried to blow off how bad the movie was by blaming Paramount for the budget, well guess what the budget had nothing to do with the utter lack of direction the film had.