A Clockwork Orange should be remade
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Just wait for the stage version to tour again.
Oh wait, you didn't like the sexuality so I guess seeing the lead play Alex on stage completely nude wouldn't appeal to you.
Was it the garish decor that turned you off? Nearly forty years later, I can't imagine someone putting together a setting that is any more alien than what Kubrick produced.
Focus more on Alex? Every scene in the movie revolves around him.
It is not far-fetched to picture a major U.S. studio's production of A Clockwork Orange including a scene to 'explain' Alex's sociopathic behavior as a product of some kind of parental neglect. Sure it would undermine every theme of the story, but it's marketable!
Oh wait, you didn't like the sexuality so I guess seeing the lead play Alex on stage completely nude wouldn't appeal to you.
Was it the garish decor that turned you off? Nearly forty years later, I can't imagine someone putting together a setting that is any more alien than what Kubrick produced.
Focus more on Alex? Every scene in the movie revolves around him.
It is not far-fetched to picture a major U.S. studio's production of A Clockwork Orange including a scene to 'explain' Alex's sociopathic behavior as a product of some kind of parental neglect. Sure it would undermine every theme of the story, but it's marketable!
#27
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Originally Posted by Original Desmond
no remake, sequel ok
Everyone remembers that A Clockwork Orange is based on a book, right?
If they do remake it Hayden Christianson should be the bodyguard
Last edited by MartinBlank; 12-14-07 at 01:41 PM.
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If they do remake it Hayden Christianson should be the bodyguard 

#31
Yikes, I thought I would get some harsh responses but not this bad. I just don't think the film is that great and the story has the potential to be truly good. I think the film works because McDowell's performance but I think a remake could focus more on a story aspect and less character driven.
But I see I've stirred the wasp's nest so I shall cease to mention any more of it.
But I see I've stirred the wasp's nest so I shall cease to mention any more of it.
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This is the worst idea I've ever heard. Just the idea of remaking it in the first place and then taking the perverted sex out of it in the second place. You'd realize this if you had read the book, but I guess I can't hold that against you.
I would really encourage you to read the novel, though. I actually thought the movie was pretty bad (oh my god blasphemy!), but the novel's gotta be top 10 if not top 5 for me.
And just out of curiosity, do you know why the movie/novel is entitled A Clockwork Orange?
I would really encourage you to read the novel, though. I actually thought the movie was pretty bad (oh my god blasphemy!), but the novel's gotta be top 10 if not top 5 for me.
And just out of curiosity, do you know why the movie/novel is entitled A Clockwork Orange?
#34
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Originally Posted by MartinBlank
no remake, sequel ok
Of course, that chapter involves Alex going back to his gang life but finding it doesn't interest him anymore, and giving it up to get a job and live a normal life. Somehow I don't think that would fly with audiences.
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
I think a remake could focus more on a story aspect and less character driven.
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I think the OP has the right idea...but in addition to removing the sex, it would be best to remove the violence and bad language. Well, while I'm dealing with the bad language, we should also remove the language that doesn't make sense. THEN we'd be looking at a helluva film!
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Originally Posted by harpo787
I think the OP has the right idea...but in addition to removing the sex, it would be best to remove the violence and bad language. Well, while I'm dealing with the bad language, we should also remove the language that doesn't make sense. THEN we'd be looking at a helluva film!
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I know that Anthony Burgess was unhappy with Kubrick using the American edition of his book, which had the last chapter deleted. I know that he was unhappy with himself for using a made-up slang to distance himself and the reader from the cruelty of his protagonist.
A remake could have Alex more unlikable, the language clearer, the breakdown of society more explicit, and show Alex's growing maturity at the end.
IIRC, the book was inspired by Burgess's new wife being brutally gang-raped by American servicemen. She lost the baby, spent a lot of time in the hospital, and never recovered either mentally or emotionally. The movie could have more of that tone instead of having choreography and clever language.
A remake could have Alex more unlikable, the language clearer, the breakdown of society more explicit, and show Alex's growing maturity at the end.
IIRC, the book was inspired by Burgess's new wife being brutally gang-raped by American servicemen. She lost the baby, spent a lot of time in the hospital, and never recovered either mentally or emotionally. The movie could have more of that tone instead of having choreography and clever language.
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Originally Posted by Nick Danger
I know that Anthony Burgess was unhappy with Kubrick using the American edition of his book, which had the last chapter deleted. I know that he was unhappy with himself for using a made-up slang to distance himself and the reader from the cruelty of his protagonist.
A remake could have Alex more unlikable, the language clearer, the breakdown of society more explicit, and show Alex's growing maturity at the end.
IIRC, the book was inspired by Burgess's new wife being brutally gang-raped by American servicemen. She lost the baby, spent a lot of time in the hospital, and never recovered either mentally or emotionally. The movie could have more of that tone instead of having choreography and clever language.
A remake could have Alex more unlikable, the language clearer, the breakdown of society more explicit, and show Alex's growing maturity at the end.
IIRC, the book was inspired by Burgess's new wife being brutally gang-raped by American servicemen. She lost the baby, spent a lot of time in the hospital, and never recovered either mentally or emotionally. The movie could have more of that tone instead of having choreography and clever language.
rob zombie's a clockwork orange?
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Seems to me noone is mentioning all the humor of Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange - most of the movie is laced with very funny black humor that would be impossible to recreate by current Hollywood standards. No remake necessary for this movie.
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#43
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Yikes, I thought I would get some harsh responses but not this bad. I just don't think the film is that great and the story has the potential to be truly good. I think the film works because McDowell's performance but I think a remake could focus more on a story aspect and less character driven.
Highly unlikely, but not impossible.
Well, it would be impossible if produced through a major U.S. production company, or even if it was an independent production picked up a major distributor. No one is going to fund that without assurances that some kind of moral righteousness could be spoonfed to the lowest common denominator.
They'll happily keep the exciting violence, but instead of using Kubrick's Alex (a frightening, psychopathic and charming being of pure animal instinct) or Burgess' Alex (a frightening and psychopathic child who matures and chooses to become a part of functioning society) the audience will be given an out for enjoying his 'hijinks' either by blaming his tendencies on some outside force, or vilifying him from the outset.
Anything to keep the viewer from having to examine their own position. Because that won't make money.
In other words, anything that got distribution would have to be hypocritical to the core themes of the story.
And your Korova Milkbar decor would have to go too...
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Originally Posted by Rad14
Oh yeah, I forgot, Ben Hur (1959) was already a re-make!
Okay then, how about Goodfellas?!!
Okay then, how about Goodfellas?!!


And "Confessions of a Dangerous Mind" isn't too far off, either.
(Not that I mind... I liked all three movies quite a bit.)
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Originally Posted by Charlie Goose
Ewan McGregor as Alex!
I'm not automatically against remakes, but there are some that can never be duplicated.
I'm not automatically against remakes, but there are some that can never be duplicated.
Now he's too old, and I realized remaking it is a horrible idea.
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NO NO NO no Kubrick film should ever be "remade." A Kubrick film is a Kubrick film. I don't give a shit if his daughter directs it lol. Would it be interesting to see a new clockwork? Probably. Now that censorship is passable with the unrated dvd releases. So I'm sure it would be more violent and perverted than the original. It just wouldn't live up the Kubricks standards at all imo.
#48
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Now hear me out. There's a great story there. Truly great. I'm not terribly concerned with staying true to the book or anything like that (Honestly, I haven't read it). I think the characters and plot should be translated to a near future world. There's so much commentary there about political parties using Alex for their own gain. There's a lot to be said about ethics behind the methods involved in the experiment to make a person less prone to violence.
Take away all the perverted sex stuff in the movie (except the set decoration of milk bar that's awesome!) and have it focus more on Alex and less on his gang.
I think all the ingredients are there for an amazing film. Though I suppose having a murderer/rapist as your main protagonist doesn't bode too well with the studios. I say in the right hands it could be great.
Take away all the perverted sex stuff in the movie (except the set decoration of milk bar that's awesome!) and have it focus more on Alex and less on his gang.
I think all the ingredients are there for an amazing film. Though I suppose having a murderer/rapist as your main protagonist doesn't bode too well with the studios. I say in the right hands it could be great.
It's been a while since I've read the book or seen the movie, but as I recall, the fact that Alex is such a bad boy is an integral part of the plot, and why the story works so well.
He has to be shown in the worst possible light. That means rape and murder, because that is his character.
If you focus on Alex just being a typical deliquent who just robs liquor stores, who cares about him?
#49
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Originally Posted by LivingINClip
It needs to be PC for today's audience. We can't have any sexual issues, not PC enough.
Basically, just go ahead and butcher the film. That's the only way to remake it with the way films are today.
Basically, just go ahead and butcher the film. That's the only way to remake it with the way films are today.
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Originally Posted by fiver
Seems to me noone is mentioning all the humor of Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange - most of the movie is laced with very funny black humor that would be impossible to recreate by current Hollywood standards. No remake necessary for this movie.
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Honestly, one of the most beautiful and riveting scenes in cinematic history is the rape and gang fight scene set to Rosselini's The Thieving Magpie.



