Hey Hollywood...we don't want your Anti-War/Anti-US films
11-30-07, 12:17 AM
#326
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Originally Posted by Brack
I find redneck to be a character trait more than a class of people.
11-30-07, 12:36 AM
#328
Originally Posted by StevieRayFan
>>> But you're criticizing what you haven't even seen. Which makes your points very mute.
Moot, not mute.
I’m criticizing his motivation for making the film, I’m criticizing the effects it will have over seas. I’m criticizing him as an American duriing a time of war. He’s on the record saying he made the movie to stop the war. This had nothing to do with art, This was an Editorial Page made with the bluster and power of Hollywoo
Moot, not mute.
I’m criticizing his motivation for making the film, I’m criticizing the effects it will have over seas. I’m criticizing him as an American duriing a time of war. He’s on the record saying he made the movie to stop the war. This had nothing to do with art, This was an Editorial Page made with the bluster and power of Hollywoo
11-30-07, 01:01 AM
#329
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Originally Posted by Brack
not really, but thanks for playing.
So, because I'm a redneck hick myself and probably can't follow what smart people say very well, dumb it down for me and explain why your position is morally superior.
11-30-07, 01:21 AM
#330
Originally Posted by kvrdave
Really? You use a term as a slur to refer the characteristics of a group of people and that is different?
So, because I'm a redneck hick myself and probably can't follow what smart people say very well, dumb it down for me and explain why your position is morally superior.
So, because I'm a redneck hick myself and probably can't follow what smart people say very well, dumb it down for me and explain why your position is morally superior.
11-30-07, 02:01 AM
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You don't think you are using it as a slur to describe people you think little of? You don't claim to be one. Gay people can use "queer" and other words. Apparently the N-word is okay for Black people to use, but both are considered an unacceptable term when used as a slur by people not of those groups. So again, why is it different? Because the term is currently socially acceptable, just like when Rober Byrd use to use the N-word in his childhood? Do you need for this negative term you use to become politically correct before you think it is wrong to use this stereotype?
If I only took the term from you in the manner in which it was intended, would it be the type of thing you would want someone to say about you or someone you like?
Time for me to preach tolerance and sing Kumbaya.
I don't mean to be a butt, but it seems like by the use of the term, are you doing anything different than anyone else?
If I only took the term from you in the manner in which it was intended, would it be the type of thing you would want someone to say about you or someone you like?
Time for me to preach tolerance and sing Kumbaya.
I don't mean to be a butt, but it seems like by the use of the term, are you doing anything different than anyone else?
11-30-07, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by StevieRayFan
>>> Fastest bit of contradiction I've ever encountered.
Maybe your “contradiction” means I didn’t follow your template of what is to be expected.
Maybe your “contradiction” means I didn’t follow your template of what is to be expected.
Originally Posted by StevieRayFan
>>> By calling him a traitor, and using that word in particular and all its ramifications, what action do you advocate? If none, what value is there in the term "traitor," at least in the way you use it?
I don’t advocate an action other than for me personally to not (inaction) see any of my $$ going into his pocket… ever again. The same value of the term when it is applied to anyone else. A don’t trust this guy, stigma. Don’t support him. Ignore him.
Good night, fellas.
I don’t advocate an action other than for me personally to not (inaction) see any of my $$ going into his pocket… ever again. The same value of the term when it is applied to anyone else. A don’t trust this guy, stigma. Don’t support him. Ignore him.
Good night, fellas.
11-30-07, 07:19 AM
#333
Originally Posted by kvrdave
You don't think you are using it as a slur to describe people you think little of? You don't claim to be one. Gay people can use "queer" and other words. Apparently the N-word is okay for Black people to use, but both are considered an unacceptable term when used as a slur by people not of those groups. So again, why is it different? Because the term is currently socially acceptable, just like when Rober Byrd use to use the N-word in his childhood? Do you need for this negative term you use to become politically correct before you think it is wrong to use this stereotype?
If I only took the term from you in the manner in which it was intended, would it be the type of thing you would want someone to say about you or someone you like?
Time for me to preach tolerance and sing Kumbaya.
I don't mean to be a butt, but it seems like by the use of the term, are you doing anything different than anyone else?
If I only took the term from you in the manner in which it was intended, would it be the type of thing you would want someone to say about you or someone you like?
Time for me to preach tolerance and sing Kumbaya.
I don't mean to be a butt, but it seems like by the use of the term, are you doing anything different than anyone else?
11-30-07, 07:45 AM
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The moral of the story is this: It's not okay make fun of jews, blacks, homosexuals, or any other cultural identity....but it is totally acceptable to make fun of rednecks. If you consider yourself a redneck and would wear a shirt "I'm proud to be a redneck," then I feel sorry for you.
11-30-07, 07:50 AM
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Since when did the usual-laughable term "redneck" become a serious cultural identity term? Is there something that the South knows that the rest of the States don't know? Is there a "Redneck Association" that represents itself in Congress now?
11-30-07, 07:58 AM
#340
Originally Posted by Rockmjd23
It appears as though kvrdave is talking about comparing rednecks to blacks and gays...where do the racist country bumpkins factor in?
A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude.
11-30-07, 07:59 AM
#341
Originally Posted by Rockmjd23
I would say there definitely is a cultural identity amongst people who us ignorant outsiders would refer to as 'rednecks'. I know a lot of people are proud of their rural, farming heritage, and we in the city and suburbs cannot live without them. Personally, I don't care either way, because I'm sure they have plenty of words for us city slickers. I don't think I'm any better than them, and in fact, in my experience I find Southerners to be very nice people, a lot nicer than the average yuppie in the city.
11-30-07, 08:02 AM
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red·neck (rĕd'nĕk')
A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude.
Haha, great definition....so can the rednecks in here please explain why one would want to be proud of being a redneck?
A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude.
Haha, great definition....so can the rednecks in here please explain why one would want to be proud of being a redneck?
11-30-07, 08:02 AM
#343
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Originally Posted by Brack
red·neck (rĕd'nĕk')
A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude.
A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude.
n. Offensive Slang
1. Used as a disparaging term for a member of the white rural laboring class, especially in the southern United States.
2. A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude.
Nice try
11-30-07, 08:04 AM
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However the Offensive Slang noun usage applies to both definitions. What it means, is that the second definition describes the stereotype that is used for the term redneck.
Nice try.
We can go around in circles forever if you wish, I'm just pointing out that the word can be construed as offensive by some people.
Nice try.
We can go around in circles forever if you wish, I'm just pointing out that the word can be construed as offensive by some people.
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11-30-07, 08:06 AM
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haha, this is the funniest thread i've seen in a long time...
here's another definition:
Republican (ree pub lick can)
A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude.
here's another definition:
Republican (ree pub lick can)
A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude.
11-30-07, 08:09 AM
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Why would it be offensive to call a redneck "a redneck"? According to our southern experts in here, I thought it's a term to be proud of now? If the person is not a redneck, then of course that person will be offended. Unless the word "redneck" to a redneck is like the N-word to a black person, in which it's only okay for ones amongst themselves to call each other that insulting word?
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11-30-07, 08:10 AM
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Oh, I get it now. I know some people who don't consider all black people to be *******s, either. Just some of them. You know, the ghetto ones that talk in ebonics. Thanks for the clarification.