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kaze0 06-30-08 10:52 AM

He didn't need more training . He just needed to be able to do it. It would have been possible right after the first one, but then that wouldnt be much of a movie.



Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I agree with this whole paragraph, but totally agree with the bold part.

One thing people have mentioned where the movie fell short was a lack of more 'trial' assassinations by Wesley before tackling the big dog. I totally agree. He comes in, kills a couple guys... now, here kill the one assassin that's better than every other assassin out there. Come on. A little too much time spent on the 'Rocky' training montage when they could have gotten a couple more jobs under his belt.


FantasticVSDoom 06-30-08 11:21 AM

Yeah my biggest critisism of the movie was that the training did go a bit long, in the comic it was pretty damn short. Just a minor quibble for me though.

OldBoy 06-30-08 12:43 PM

what a great, over-the-top, released at the perfect time action flick. i really enjoyed every thing about this movie and wasn't bored for a second. fun as hell and action scenes that have never been done before. a benchmark for all others to come in this genre if you ask me. a hellava good time just had. and after getting the "24" deal, it was a pretty good day.

2 questions...why did
Spoiler:
Fox (AJ) kill herself? and why couldn't we see her real name after we saw "Gunsmith"'s?
i was really hoping they would both do the sequel.

RichC2 06-30-08 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by scott1598
what a great, over-the-top, released at the perfect time action flick. i really enjoyed every thing about this movie and wasn't bored for a second. fun as hell and action scenes that have never been done before. a benchmark for all others to come in this genre if you ask me. a hellava good time just had. and after getting the "24" deal, it was a pretty good day.

2 questions...why did
Spoiler:
Fox (AJ) kill herself? and why couldn't we see her real name after we saw "Gunsmith"'s?
i was really hoping they would both do the sequel.

My best guess

Spoiler:
Fox believed in the threads of fate. She was branded as a kid as her father was burnt alive, and fully believed the person who did that was supposed to be killed days earlier. She chose to remove herself from the gene pool because she believed in the system, that it was for the greater good.

That said, why didn't she kill Sloan and Wes? No clue, but the movie has a lot of those kinds of plot holes ( why would a trained assassin like Sloan show up to Wesley's office to shoot him in the head when he could have done it from afar, etc; ).


Didn't really worry too much about it as it was fun regardless. My only real complaint with the film so far has been some digital blurring in a few scenes, I guess to get all the effects done under budget (cut a few corners).

OldBoy 06-30-08 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by RichC2
My best guess

Spoiler:
Fox believed in the threads of fate. She was branded as a kid as her father was burnt alive, and fully believed the person who did that was supposed to be killed days earlier. She chose to remove herself from the gene pool because she believed in the system, that it was for the greater good.

That said, why didn't she kill Sloan and Wes? No clue, but the movie has a lot of those kinds of plot holes ( why would a trained assassin like Sloan show up to Wesley's office to shoot him in the head when he could have done it from afar, etc; ).

yeah, i could buy that, but i guess just disappointed and a little saddened.

onebyone 06-30-08 02:48 PM

I don't think there was any reason
Spoiler:
for her to kill Wes after the reveal. If Sloane was manufacturing hits at that point, his name likely didn't really come up.


Saw it again today and loved it just as much. What a big fun adrenaline rush this one is. It has been a hell of a Summer so far at the movies, and on paper it didnt look that good to me.

Michael Corvin 06-30-08 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by onebyone
I don't think there was any reason
Spoiler:
for her to kill Wes after the reveal. If Sloane was manufacturing hits at that point, his name likely didn't really come up.

This is the biggest plot hole for me. How does she know Sloan didn't manufacture her hit along with his whole team just as a plan B like the movie panned out? It's possible her name never came up as well, it was just Sloan's contingency plan.

RichC2 06-30-08 03:12 PM

Yep had that same "well, maybe" thought too, I didn't give it too much erm.. thought.. though.

onebyone 06-30-08 03:30 PM

I didn't give it that much thought either.
Spoiler:
If she even remotely believed it, it was in character for Fox to do just that so that was good enough for me, although I didn't want her too at all and damn well hope they can find a way to slide her into the inevitable sequel somehow.

OldBoy 06-30-08 06:42 PM

one of the cooler scenes and i hope people caught it...

Spoiler:
when Wesley hits Barry with his keyboard and the keys spell out "Fuck You", did you notice his tooth was the last u?
so quick if you blinked you missed it, but such a cool little touch.

FinkPish 06-30-08 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by scott1598
one of the cooler scenes and i hope people caught it...

Spoiler:
when Wesley hits Barry with his keyboard and the keys spell out "Fuck You", did you notice his tooth was the last u?
so quick if you blinked you missed it, but such a cool little touch.

Everyone in our theater caught it; it was kinda hard to miss.

OldBoy 06-30-08 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by FinkPish
Everyone in our theater caught it; it was kinda hard to miss.

excuse me for living, maybe i should jump off the roof of my house now. goodbye!...no just kidding, still here.

FinkPish 06-30-08 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by scott1598
excuse me for living, maybe i should jump off the roof of my house now. goodbye!...no just kidding, still here.

Sorry, it just didn't seem a like "blink and you'll miss it" moment; it held on the letters pretty long in slow motion.

fumanstan 06-30-08 07:07 PM

Yeah, it seemed like an obvious gag.

devilshalo 06-30-08 07:51 PM

It's in the redband trailer.

mdc3000 06-30-08 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
This is the biggest plot hole for me. How does she know Sloan didn't manufacture her hit along with his whole team just as a plan B like the movie panned out? It's possible her name never came up as well, it was just Sloan's contingency plan.

Or, the only reason their names came up is because they were following the orders of Sloan who was acting on his OWN INTERESTS and not that of the Loom... I know Fox bought into fate hook line and sinker, but she should have given some pause at the notion that the only reason the team got flagged is because their leader was a total douche.

NotThatGuy 07-01-08 01:54 AM

If The Matrix fucked Locked, Stocked, and Two Smoking Barrels, married a comic book writer, and they had an abortion because it cheated with some guy from the Steven Segal School of Acting.....WANTED would be what is left.

It was a steaming pile of crap. The circling bullet towards the end....the wax thing, how about the train scene? There is suspending belief, and then there is being retarded....this movie encompassed the latter.

Mhepburn20 07-01-08 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by pedagogue
If The Matrix fucked Locked, Stocked, and Two Smoking Barrels, married a comic book writer, and they had an abortion because it cheated with some guy from the Steven Segal School of Acting.....WANTED would be what is left.

It was a steaming pile of crap. The circling bullet towards the end....the wax thing, how about the train scene? There is suspending belief, and then there is being retarded....this movie encompassed the latter.


Um.... comic book movie? The bullet circling is in keeping with the basic premise of physics for the film (which granted is ridiculous) and the idea of curving bullets was in EVERY trailer I saw for the film. The wax is different from any miracle cure in any movie; how? I guess I just fail to see how anything you've brought up so far made the movie "retarded" or a "Steaming pile of crap." The action scenes were decent, it had more of a plot than ANY other action movie I've seen this year, and the acting was quite good, IMO.

The Cow 07-01-08 02:09 AM


Originally Posted by pedagogue
If The Matrix fucked Locked, Stocked, and Two Smoking Barrels, married a comic book writer, and they had an abortion because it cheated with some guy from the Steven Segal School of Acting.....WANTED would be what is left.

It was a steaming pile of crap. The circling bullet towards the end....the wax thing, how about the train scene? There is suspending belief, and then there is being retarded....this movie encompassed the latter.

Try it again sober. -wink-

GatorDeb 07-01-08 03:49 AM

This movie was AWESOME. The first hour or so dragged for me and it was kind of confusing and boring, but the last hour got better and the last half hour were one of the best I've ever experienced in a movie. This was the opposite of I Am Legend where the whole movie rocked and then the ending sucked. I'm willing to put up with one hour of boring exposition if it means two or three flicks that mimmick the last hour of this one.

Michael Corvin 07-01-08 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by GatorDeb
This movie was AWESOME. The first hour or so dragged for me and it was kind of confusing and boring, but the last hour got better and the last half hour were one of the best I've ever experienced in a movie. This was the opposite of I Am Legend where the whole movie rocked and then the ending sucked. I'm willing to put up with one hour of boring exposition if it means two or three flicks that mimmick the last hour of this one.

Wow. Did you see the same movie as everyone else? How was the first hour confusing? Average Joe hates his life and finds out his dad is a world renowned assassin who was recently murdered. He decides to avenge his death. Hooks up with the group of assassin's his dad worked for and trains with them. It doesn't get much more straight forward than that.

No action in the first hour? Did you miss the rooftop scene with the half dozen assassin's that were taken out? What about the pharmacy shootout followed by a 10 minute car/chase shootout? Which of course leads to the training which had some action bits.

Now, while I enjoyed I am Legend, it is quite a different film. It is more of a drama with all exposition. It was a slow build and little to no action until the last 20 minutes. I don't see how anyone could compare the two films. They couldn't be any more different.

Trevor 07-01-08 06:40 AM

It was decent and mindless fun, but I'm glad it was free.

The storyline, acting, and action scenes are all ok, but not stellar. So I can't imagine wanting to watch it again. If I want a diverting action-fest there are much better movies to re-watch.

Still, I'm glad I saw it in the theater, fun movie. But forgettable.

GatorDeb 07-01-08 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Wow. Did you see the same movie as everyone else? How was the first hour confusing? Average Joe hates his life and finds out his dad is a world renowned assassin who was recently murdered. He decides to avenge his death. Hooks up with the group of assassin's his dad worked for and trains with them. It doesn't get much more straight forward than that.

I guess confusing in that it was a bit difficult to keep up because of all the quick breaks. I don't really like a lot of cutting back and forth. Also the whole
Spoiler:
who was blackmailing who, who killed him, etc. etc.
But all the questions were answered by the end which was great.


No action in the first hour? Did you miss the rooftop scene with the half dozen assassin's that were taken out? What about the pharmacy shootout followed by a 10 minute car/chase shootout? Which of course leads to the training which had some action bits.
Spoiler:

I guess I'm spoiled in that even the car chase at the beginning was bleh. Takes a lot of action to get me excited :D I did think the flip and shooting inside the limo was cool.



Now, while I enjoyed I am Legend, it is quite a different film. It is more of a drama with all exposition. It was a slow build and little to no action until the last 20 minutes. I don't see how anyone could compare the two films. They couldn't be any more different.
The comparison was that I Am Legend was a great MovieRunTime-5 minutes movie experience and one of the best I've ever experienced, and then they ruin the movie in the last five minutes. Wanted is kind of slow in the buildup of the story and the pieces don't make sense fully until the end but it get better and better as it goes along ending phenomenally.

Michael Corvin 07-01-08 07:26 AM

Okay... cool. :up:

DJariya 07-01-08 11:58 AM

Other than seeing a bad drawing of McAvoy and Angelina on a Wanted posted very briefly, I don't understand why this movie was called "Wanted."

There was nothing to imply that the fraternity was Wanted fugitives and I don't think I saw a single police officer or law enforcement agency try to stop them.


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