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FinkPish 06-29-08 12:52 AM


Originally Posted by brizz
but then i'd be giving my money to yet another retarded brain dead comic book adaptation and thus encourage more of them. I've seen the trailer and clips. that's plenty. wake me when they make a movie made for anyone not a 13 year old boy compensating for the late onset of puberty.

You should really try going to see the movie before you start underhandedly attacking the folks who did like this. I was of the same opinion you are now before I got talked into seeing it last night. I was really surprised by it; the ads and clips don't do it justice if you are willing to buy into the insanity of it all.

Tarantino 06-29-08 02:20 AM


Originally Posted by BadlyDrawnBoy
is there a film where Common has lived through to the end yet? I quite enjoy him, and again he was underused in this.

I think he lived in
Spoiler:
Smokin' Aces
, but I could be wrong.

I agree that he's criminally underused.

= J

Gunde 06-29-08 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by brizz
but i'm sure the masses will go out in droves because ZOMGBBQ!!!!!!!!!! JOLIE IS HAWT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -ohbfrank-

They'd be wrong. She used to be, but here she just looked sick

Daytripper 06-29-08 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Gunde
They'd be wrong. She used to be, but here she just looked sick

If by sick you mean too thin, they I have to agree. But she's still beautiful. The girl does need to put at least 10 more pounds on.

RichC2 06-29-08 10:00 AM

She overlost after her last pregnency, it's pretty common these days (it seems) that the actresses go too far after putting on some weight.

I thought she looks a little too rail thin, but was pretty vibrant in the role.

mdc3000 06-29-08 02:31 PM

Liked it but didn't love it. Far too predictable, the action scenes weren't as great as I had hoped (the gore was good) and the training sequence was annoying as hell...I wanted more assassination missions before the main story started up again... also, Jolie had nothing to do and felt like window dressing. Timur's use of dutch angles, incoherent action/editing from his previous films carried over to this in a big way, which didn't do anything for me. A decent B movie, but not the R-rated Action masterpiece I was hoping for... some decent lines but really disappointing overall, still, entertaining enough to justify a matinee - I just have higher hopes that Wanted 2 can avoid the mistakes that this one made (again and again). 3 out of 5.

slop101 06-29-08 03:10 PM

I was just happy to finally see an R-rated action movie again - it's been too long.

My Other Self 06-29-08 03:36 PM

I will say Jolie looked pretty anorexic in this.. but given her minimal screen time (I wouldn't call this a Jolie movie.. she had a significant role but this was a McAvoy vehicle IMO), it wasn't distracting. She does need to put some meat on them bones.

fumanstan 06-29-08 04:29 PM

You know the thing I actually did like was the side characters and their codenames, like Repairman and Gunsmith. I thought that was pretty cool and wish it was expanded on.

Brack 06-29-08 04:53 PM

I had a fun time. It's like someone threw The Matrix, Fight Club, Minority Report, and Shoot 'Em Up into a blender, threw it in the oven, and out came this. While I agree that it didn't redefine the action genre or have too many surprises, I laughed quite a bit, and felt the car chase and train sequences were fantastic. If anyone wanted any sort of realism from this movie, then well, you weren't going to get it.

I didn't understand the whole "fate" thing (I'm guessing it's explained in the comics?).

Brack 06-29-08 05:16 PM

oh, and as far as the "Angelina looks too skinny" debate, at a certain age, women have to choose between their ass or their face (either having a nice, "full" face, but a bigger ass, or having a nice ass, and therefore thinner face).

Michael Corvin 06-29-08 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by fumanstan
You know the thing I actually did like was the side characters and their codenames, like Repairman and Gunsmith. I thought that was pretty cool and wish it was expanded on.

that's one thing the Crow excelled at. Memorable villains with kick-ass names.

project86 06-29-08 09:54 PM

I loved every minute of it. I do agree that he was too much of a whiney baby at the beginning but overall this was a top notch action flick.

movieking 06-29-08 10:05 PM

I loved Shoot'em Up, thought Crank was only okay at best, and I have to say that this was closer to Shoot'em Up than Crank. Didn't really like the ending, but most of the rest was good mindless violent fun. And while Angelina's face looked fantastic, she really was too thin.

Cornelius1047 06-29-08 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by Perkinsun Dzees
McAvoy was decent as the lead, but his character was too whiny and annoying. I think Shia Leboeuf would have been more believable in the role. Angelina was smokin' hot as usual.

I actually thought he did a great job in the role, and would definitely be interested in checking out some of his other work. But it's funny you should mention Shia (who I couldn't imagine in the role at all, physically). To me, James McAvoy actually sounded a lot like Shia in the movie. And, seriously, whenever he wasn't on-screen, but talking, I'd forget it was him and be like, "What? Shia's in this?" I'm not even joking.

Personally, I went to see this to watch some crazy action. I didn't expect anything resembling believability. If you buy into the premise and the world they inhabit, I think it's possible to have a really good time. This is one of the only movies this year where I actually felt like clapping at the end (although I didn't, while most of the audience did). It's stupid, irresponsible, unbelievable, highly improbable, littered with seriously questionable plotholes. But it is also really fun. And I could barely wipe the grin off my face during or after the movie. (It didn't hurt that I got to see The Dark Knight trailer again either.) It's not perfect, but I loved it. I'd probably put it as #3 on my list for the year, behind Iron Man and The Fall.

When my group left the theatre, I made this comment: "You know, the most unbelievable thing in that movie... When he put his name in the Google seach and got absolutely no results." Seriously. I don't buy that at all. You could put "The Hitler Merkin Review" in Google and still get SOMETHING, yet the name Wesley Gibson gets 0 results?! I think not.

I give the movie a solid B+.

K

Seantn 06-29-08 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by Cornelius1047
When my group left the theatre, I made this comment: "You know, the most unbelievable thing in that movie... When he put his name in the Google seach and got absolutely no results." Seriously. I don't buy that at all. You could put "The Hitler Merkin Review" in Google and still get SOMETHING, yet the name Wesley Gibson gets 0 results?! I think not.

I give the movie a solid B+.

K

Yeah, that's the point. That's how much of a nobody he is. Even Google gives him 0 results, even though any word on google should give millions of results.

Just like the ATM doesn't say "You're an Asshole" in real life (as it did to him) if you have insufficient funds.

Patman 06-30-08 12:06 AM

How do you know that the Fraternity didn't have something to do with returning no results when "wesley gibson" is searched on?

slop101 06-30-08 12:18 AM

I understand that the movie had to change the Super-heroes/villains from the comics, but I wish they would've kept the comic's sense of nihilism. Like how they kill people that "deserve" it and not for profit, which I thought was a massive cop-out. One of the funnest scenes in the comic was when he went around and killed people who gave him shit throughout his life, like old highschool teachers. Sure, it would've made him really unlikable, but that's sort of the point.

atari2600 06-30-08 01:31 AM

add another to the list who loved this movie. highly entertaining, mindless action flick.

when i go to the movies i want to be entertained for 2 hrs. if it takes crazy over the top action scenes or amazing story/amazing plot/amazing acting i dont care. wanted was the former...others are the latter. doesnt matter to me what it takes...i pay for entertainment and i got it.

atari2600 06-30-08 01:33 AM


Originally Posted by brizz
this looks absolutely terrible. i'm so tired of action movies relying on outdoing the last one with ridiculously retarded "stunts" and slow motion bullshit. They don't care about plots or characters anymore, and it's sad. completely fucking stupid.

but i'm sure the masses will go out in droves because ZOMGBBQ!!!!!!!!!! JOLIE IS HAWT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -ohbfrank-

wow. too bad.

furrybunny39 06-30-08 01:44 AM

I saw the movie, and although it was ridiculous beyond belief I enjoyed it. I give it a C+.

FinkPish 06-30-08 02:07 AM


Originally Posted by slop101
I understand that the movie had to change the Super-heroes/villains from the comics, but I wish they would've kept the comic's sense of nihilism. Like how they kill people that "deserve" it and not for profit, which I thought was a massive cop-out. One of the funnest scenes in the comic was when he went around and killed people who gave him shit throughout his life, like old highschool teachers. Sure, it would've made him really unlikable, but that's sort of the point.

I can understand though why they changed that particular aspect from the comics. All it would have done was to provide more fodder for either the excuses of or the reasons for more school shootings and similar events. A movie studio is going to cover its ass as much as possible, and I don't necessarily blame them in this case.

Seantn 06-30-08 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by FinkPish
I can understand though why they changed that particular aspect from the comics. All it would have done was to provide more fodder for either the excuses of or the reasons for more school shootings and similar events. A movie studio is going to cover its ass as much as possible, and I don't necessarily blame them in this case.

As it stands, he didn't do anything to help any of those poor people on the train who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. They all fell to their deaths.

FinkPish 06-30-08 02:43 AM


Originally Posted by Seantn
As it stands, he didn't do anything to help any of those poor people on the train who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. They all fell to their deaths.

But there's a difference between passively letting innocent people die and actively killing people who may or may not deserve it, which is what the comics had them doing. Most big action movies (especially R-rated ones) have innocent people getting in the way of big shootouts and explosions. The only recent movie I can think of that showed almost no one getting hurt around so much ridiculous destruction was Transformers (which was rated PG-13).

Michael Corvin 06-30-08 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Cornelius1047
Personally, I went to see this to watch some crazy action. I didn't expect anything resembling believability. If you buy into the premise and the world they inhabit, I think it's possible to have a really good time. This is one of the only movies this year where I actually felt like clapping at the end (although I didn't, while most of the audience did). It's stupid, irresponsible, unbelievable, highly improbable, littered with seriously questionable plotholes. But it is also really fun. And I could barely wipe the grin off my face during or after the movie. (It didn't hurt that I got to see The Dark Knight trailer again either.) It's not perfect, but I loved it.

I agree with this whole paragraph, but totally agree with the bold part.

One thing people have mentioned where the movie fell short was a lack of more 'trial' assassinations by Wesley before tackling the big dog. I totally agree. He comes in, kills a couple guys... now, here kill the one assassin that's better than every other assassin out there. Come on. A little too much time spent on the 'Rocky' training montage when they could have gotten a couple more jobs under his belt.


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